323600+ entries in 0.188s
nubbins`: look at
the monthly statements
trinque: faced with "shut bitbet down" or "gift bitbet
the funds
to keep running" or "loan
them", what's
the right
thing
to do?
nubbins`: danielpbarron
that was probably all of
the non-mp investors leaving.
trinque: this even assuming
that it was entirely a mistake and so on
trinque: in
the absence of assets it seems
the only way
to keep bbet running
danielpbarron: there hasn't been nearly enough volume on S.BBET
to claim any sort of price falling, except for about a year ago when 10 or so bitcoin worth brought it from
the 40s
to
the
teens
nubbins`: i still believe it was so, in
the absence of conflicting evidence
PeterL: some of
the smaller bids were removed from
the orderbook, but
the big ones are still
there
jurov: asciilifeform:
the price fell by 40% last month
nubbins`: danielpbarron seems
to
think
that one cannot point out fraud if
the fraudster is party
to
the fraud
PeterL: there was some selling
the past couple days
danielpbarron: there was a little bit of selling, i was on
the recieving end of it
nubbins`: so it's okay
to commit fraud, as long as
the business you're defrauding is on your exchange?
danielpbarron: nubbins`>
the listing agreement clearly states
that at any
time MP wishes, he can liquidate S.BBET via MPEx << QED. STFU
PeterL: so
the only recourse shareholders have is
to sell if
they disagree with his decisions, maybe
they could have brought suit for negligence before
the rota when
that was a
thing?
nubbins`: danielpbarron
the logic doesn't follow, please explain showing your workings?
danielpbarron: so
then
there is no problem by your own admission nubbins`
nubbins`: asciilifeform i'm not sad
today!
nubbins`: the listing agreement clearly states
that at any
time MP wishes, he can liquidate S.BBET via MPEx
jurov: asciilifeform:
there's
the simple question, if sending zerofee
tx is acting "in good faith",
that #b-a forum could answer
nubbins`: asciilifeform agreed, he has held all
the cards since day 1.
nubbins`: asciilifeform kako's mouth is shut for
the
time being
nubbins`: <+jurov>danielpbarron: you already did, numerous
times << HEH
trinque: as for my perspective,
the
tools either work or
they don't.
the WoT, deedbot, forum, so on, sorts itself or doesn't.
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>nubbins`: it is difficult
to have a useful discussion in
the midst of 'your mother eats electric eeels. -- no YOUR mother. .. etc' << agreed, which is why i found hanbot's vulgarity very disheartening; she only jumped into
the conversation
to insult and vexate. mp's bringing my wife into it was a ludicrous response
to me accusing him of fraud. my wife's not in
the picture.
jurov: danielpbarron: you already did, numerous
times
danielpbarron: and what is
this,
the non violent language center? who cares if someone used an "ad hominem" already. In my experience, uses of
this
term are stupid.
nubbins`: <+danielpbarron>it's not clear
that Mircea is wrong. It's not clear kako agrees he's wrong. <<
that's beause kako had
the private convo with me, not you
nubbins`: he's a small, sad man, nothing more
than a mark karpeles with better book-learning. lucked his way into a windfall by recognizing bitcoin as an opportunity early on; just hasn't fallen on
the sword yet.
nubbins`: his inability
to listen when he's offered advice is off-putting, and his inability
to admit error when it's glaringly obvious is vulgar
danielpbarron: it's not clear
that Mircea is wrong. It's not clear kako agrees he's wrong. As for
the others going along with your rabble rousing,
that only makes me suspicious of
them.
PeterL: so, as I have been watching my
trb node sync
the past
three months (am I
the only person who
thinks
this
takes way
too long?) it seems like it spends alot of
time
trying
to connect
to nodes and
timing out?
nubbins`: mp's initial silence on
the Nk, Nm node stuff until his other arguments were busted implies strongly
that it's
total bullshit,
nubbins`: here's
the straight dope. we all knew from
the start
that mp doesn't care when he's wrong, he just bulldozes. countless examples exist, i don't care
to find
them for you. kako agrees
that
the expense is fraudulent, jurov agrees, many others agree;
the only ones who don't agree are you, who seem quite willing
to let kako
take
the hit in order
to maintain peace, and hanbot, who obviously doesn't count as an opinion
nubbins`: asciilifeform just wondering: do you still
think it's a drill?
danielpbarron: i ran into
this problem in 2012 when i wanted
to vote for Ron Paul
PeterL: no, in Michigan
they give us a ballot with both parties and we get
to pick wich one we vote on
nubbins`: asciilifeform consider
the case
that i may consider my cat a steed. if i mount it, what happens?
danielpbarron: if mich is like conn, he can't vote vermin supreme if he was otherwise going
to vote rand
PeterL: today is presidential primary here in mich, I havn't decided how
to vote, half
tempted
to write in Rand Paul as a protest against all
the idiots still running
nubbins`: asciilifeform strange since all but hanbot and mp agree
that nothing adds up
PeterL: I guess it got missed in all
the shouting
PeterL: did mircea_popescu ever say how his bitcoin handles conflicting
transactions?
nubbins`: asciilifeform you read
the logs as well as i. all are aware
that
the accusation remains unanswered
nubbins`: PeterL stringent policing isn't a
thing here anymore
PeterL: should
the lordship be so stringently policed?
nubbins`: an obsession
this is not. you asked, i answered
nubbins`: who, if you'll double-check
the list...
nubbins`: she's about as currently relevant as
TAT
nubbins`: so
that's both of us who see no merit
to having her on
the lordship,
then
nubbins`: asciilifeform
tell me something in
the present
tense and i'll maybe be interested
nubbins`: in fact, vexatiousness seems
to be
the only quality she's willing
to share with
the world
trinque: I respectfully
tip my hat
to
the burden of having seen far further
than one can walk (at least yet)
trinque: "oh, I'm only busy reinventing every piece of software and hardware
this nascent cryptoculture needs
to survive"
PeterL: you have a weird way of measuring
things
PeterL: could you define it better
then?
PeterL: I
think you missvalue yourself on
this scale
nubbins`: basically just a vexual without
the youtube links
nubbins`: not belabouring
the point, just pointing out
that sauce from hanbot holds zero value, and if all she does is run
the mouth and not contribute, she's just getting in
the way.
nubbins`: fair enough.
there are some here who do less.
nubbins`: so she used
to do forum pr, but now doesn't
PeterL: she runs one of
the mpif parts
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 16:56:31; nubbins`:
then i realized
that she doesn't do anything, and
thought it odd she's on
the lordship list
nubbins`: funny how
this is an ideas place and so many are willing
to look past
the ideas and focus on
the delivery
nubbins`: then i realized
that she doesn't do anything, and
thought it odd she's on
the lordship list
☟︎ PeterL: would it be hard
to make?