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mircea_popescu: the even more logical conclusion : there's some miner going around with 32 bit hardware, that's unable to correctly handle 64 bit nonces
mircea_popescu: and we'll all be happy and everything plentiful and good.
mircea_popescu: these people should vote, seriously. then we'd finally have real democracy, when nothing and nobody prevents these people from giving their "opinion" on how public affairs should be run
mircea_popescu: ns oh well...Great job on running the pool WK!! couldn't ask for a better pool op"
mircea_popescu: forum responds : "WOOT WTG WK!!! you teach them that messing with our pool isn't an option Great job on catching them and stopping them from getting their reward for doing nothing Finally some scammers didn't get to scam...oh how good that makes me feel...lost 21 coins to some lying cheating bastards already one was the btcrow or some website email scam..thought i was using escrow but was really sending them the coi
mircea_popescu: well the more persuasive explanation is, elegius fucked up a server upgrade (on its sole server, if you don't count an old backup box which is never live anyway), lost some user's accounts
mircea_popescu: "P.S. - This is unrelated to any of the stats issues that have occurred. (Server migration for the new web server is still under way
)"
mircea_popescu: o look, it's also closing ? isn't this one of the oldest pools still (sort-of) standing ?
mircea_popescu: "It has unofficially been decided that if it came down to it, Eligius would shut down before being forced to pay any attacker of any kind any amount whatsoever."
mircea_popescu: herpy derp. so basically don't mine with elegius and that's that.
mircea_popescu: "When they noticed, weeks later, they contacted us complaining. We asked them to sign messages to verify they were in fact in control of the addresses in question including asking them to include a real name and location in the signed message, refusing to discuss it until they had done so"
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would someone keep a 200 btc balance, and esp with elegius, is beyong me.
mircea_popescu: so elegius is stealing from some miner they had an argument with.
mircea_popescu: "My guess is that they never expected to get caught and suffer income loss as a result of their attack. But, once they were caught, I put a filter in place to block them from the payout queue (similar to the block on known MtGox addresses). Eligiuss offline wallet now has roughly 200 BTC work credits held from the payout queue under the attacker's addresses, that we have stopped them from stealing."
mircea_popescu: (if they actually were detectable they'd logically be prevetnable too)
mircea_popescu: davout the guy is a legit miner, but perhaps not too acquainted with logic. they're not detectable, they're susceptionable.
mircea_popescu: seems more a function ofyou for the first time reading miner stuff than anything else.
mircea_popescu: they're oppressed for a reason you know. nobody in the entire history of oppression was oppressed for anything but a reason.
mircea_popescu: what are you, like new to this risk! game of international intrigue ?
mircea_popescu: who the hell knew "anatomical" is condom codeword for "i have a very small icepick"
mircea_popescu: that thing is so narrow i couldn't fit any part of it in there.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, so i go buy one of each type, and as chance would have it i first try the tyhing called "anatomical"
mircea_popescu: imagine, i could scribble "numbers" under it and be a real geek fucking.
mircea_popescu: so in the end i order research on condoms. answer comes out that the only half decent brand is "prime"
mircea_popescu: cue me in pharmacy with womenz in tow looking askew at the two mds there, with a stupid novelty ladden package onthe counter. "what are trhese!?!?"
mircea_popescu: speaking of negative cock thickness, so the good folk here don't fucking import condoms.
mircea_popescu: <Mats_cd03> militants advancing towards baghdad << myeah.
mircea_popescu: (and i do believe he's typical, there's nothing more conformally uniform in the world than tech people.)
mircea_popescu: the total estimated holdings of the bitcoin power rangers < 1k btc.
mircea_popescu: "BTW If you owe me fiat and normally pay me via Bitcoin, for the next 2.5 weeks you can pay me based on the price I sold at, $650 CAD." << so inadvertently, the guy's holdings are 5 weeks of his income.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin will succeed in the long term because i say so. not because todd says or doesn't say so. wtf is this, programmer planet, where programmers matter now ?!
mircea_popescu: "Do I still think Bitcoin will succeed in the long run? Yes, but I'm a lot less sure of it than I used to be."
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> provide a way for cars to fly through the air with minimal time even with only a two-stroke lawnmower engine << i know right ? i will sell half my gasoline unless this happens.
mircea_popescu: why not get rid of airplanes while at it, they spread germs, are a threat to diversity and make it really easy for assholes like mp (or genius chinese kids) to fly to retarded backwater places (like the us) and just take over
mircea_popescu: "1) Eliminate pools. 2) Provide a way for miners to solo-mine with low varience and frequent mining payouts even with only small amounts of hashing power. 3) Get rid of ASICs." mkay todd is off another planet.
mircea_popescu: if shipping shirts costs more than the shirts it'd seem practical
mircea_popescu: lol the us should ban good cheese. the stuff they call cheese is a disgrace to the name, best just painlessly divorce.
mircea_popescu: in principle tho the pools are open to this "who's willing to lose most money" attack, they could start doing it to each other (and perhaps the larger ones have done it to ensure their position already - it's disputed)
mircea_popescu: if you mean to try and double spend, it'd be hard for any pool to do. if you mean, the withholding to hurt the pool, it can't really, but extreme bad luck is always suspicious.
mircea_popescu: davout: how would one detect a block witholding attack on a pool ? << which kind ?
mircea_popescu: unbalanced kept getting devoiced and i doubt he's yet figured how to pm assbot
mircea_popescu: pankkake: you can plant them and no one will check the cables every day << why not ?
mircea_popescu: punkman: do I have to put them up to my ear and tap them? << if you can't hear the tap without putting it to your ear it's not a good one anyway
mircea_popescu: derpy soviets think they're so smart, let them fill all the forms they want.
mircea_popescu: "Professor Chelnov, an old mathematician arrested seventeen years ago and who, when he had to fill in a form" << why the fuck'd anyone fill a form already.
mircea_popescu: worse is a superlative and for that reason incomparable.
mircea_popescu: unbalanced: Big day for me, living la vida crypto. Thanks all. Going afk for a while. << that was lulzy lol. like kid with new xmas train.
mircea_popescu: mike_c from what i recall BingoBoingo wasn't too adverse to the jumps
mircea_popescu: the only folk it really hurts are speculators, of the redditard type
mircea_popescu: i really don't see th econcern. if anything, slow txn are good for a coin, they keep the people in a hurry at bay
mircea_popescu: mike_c haven't heard from the satoshijack dude in a long time
mircea_popescu: unbalanced so in th end how much did you end up paying per atc trying to mine ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c they don't seem to be hurting anything tho do they ?
mircea_popescu: unbalanced its perfectly uneconomical to try and kill the coin already.