asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ti is epic example of sad -- at one time 1 of the largest semiconductor houses in usa, and built not only a lispm ( flopped ) but fairly beefy 80s micro ( ti-99/4 , also flopped )

asciilifeform: ( and that's at 'ratecard' cpu farm )

asciilifeform: right nao they cost maybe 100bux ea. to break.

asciilifeform: 1024b, even moar

asciilifeform: btw there's a megatonne of 512b rsa keys in my db

asciilifeform: 'let's do this, but without doing it'

asciilifeform: ( entertainingly analogous, imho, to their current-day 'proprietary blockchains(tm)' liquishit )

asciilifeform: yea not much point in counting banks etc. sad-512bit-rsa of mid-90s

asciilifeform: orig. msdos 'pgp' was , what, '92 ? and the mit-istic bastardizations, shortly after

asciilifeform has entire bookshelf of it nao

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the subj (e.g. barrett's algo) is late-80s

asciilifeform: z80 ditto

asciilifeform: ~hour for mod-exp.

asciilifeform: ( at one time i tried to rsa on 6502, it's a royal bitch on 8bit-wide chip with no multiplier )

asciilifeform: wasn't widely in use tho, because expensive.

asciilifeform: rsa very much existed in '80s, good % of the classic papers re real-life algos for it are from exactly then

asciilifeform: if pc had been designed by sane folx, it'd have rng that worx at bus speed, and nobody could have even conceived of this nonsense.

asciilifeform: afaik it's exactly this

asciilifeform: ( trilema item, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524864 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: !#s tv raft

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall also how the thing came to be ( was idjit hack, around the fact that 'sshd wants entropy at boot time, before rng init' or somesuch )

asciilifeform: tbh i wouldn't miss it if it vanished.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sat down & tried to think of a legit use for urandom, only came up with what's in the linked thread

asciilifeform: the maker of the thing folded coupla yrs ago, they had 2 major buyers, the 'olpc' idjicy (dead) and usg (made clone, as i understand) and so starved.

asciilifeform: ( as well as if you turn on the backlight led, then it becomes ~ordinary screen )

asciilifeform: in very bright sun it gives colour, of a sort, interestingly

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'd play in b&w ?!

asciilifeform: lenovo box, with roughly same chipset as x60

asciilifeform: i have nfi if item is of interest to anyone other than asciilifeform , aside from possibly phf

asciilifeform: there's 6 or so known lappies where thing fits natively, with 0 construction work, i have one due to show up next wk, will post photo if worx.

asciilifeform: if yer willing to carry suitcase, may as well get the chinese hdmi/vga boardlet and use with rk.

asciilifeform: ugh

asciilifeform: ( cable , can be adaptered, in theory, but frame is what it is )

asciilifeform: it's a physical part, gotta fit in the frame

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specifically, it cannot sit down in the beloved x60 or any other 4:3

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aah, orig thread was re what machines it can be sewn into

asciilifeform: thing has voice mail too, but i assumed receiver has own and didn't plug it in

asciilifeform: aite

asciilifeform: can also nix the space b/w tmsr and btc

asciilifeform: oh hey

asciilifeform: but i did not plug it in, couldn't think of why to do presently

asciilifeform: btw there's another pheature, also apparently 0cost, that lets you make calls ~from~ it

asciilifeform: 1 is usa pnoje prefix

asciilifeform: i dun pnoje much these days, nfi

asciilifeform: worked with 1-833.

asciilifeform: she was bit confused.

asciilifeform: worx!!

asciilifeform brb

asciilifeform: notyet, but why not!

asciilifeform: but apparently mod6's telco is opposite, so i have nfi

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: traditionally these dun work w/out the prefix

asciilifeform: mod6: i recommend to put the #, "1-833-TMSRBTC" , on tbf www

asciilifeform: ( recall #ifdefism thread )

asciilifeform: ^ The Right Thing imho

asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu for supplying the idea and the picker-up

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: afaik avoxi dun do euro, would need a 2nd vendor.

asciilifeform: currently i've nfi how to make eu phree pnojes, would have to look into it if it becomes interesting

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: keep in mind that 8xx only work from usa

asciilifeform: otherwise it'll be just the one mircea_popescu supplied.

asciilifeform: anybody who wants to be in this list, plox to gpg #.

asciilifeform: you can have theoretically unlimited # of these

asciilifeform: mod6: indeed there is

asciilifeform: so if sumbody wants to be telephonist...

asciilifeform: btw theres a (apparently phree) feature where it can go to diff receivers at different times of day

asciilifeform: i'ma invoice mod6 then as soon as it actually costs sumthing nontrivial, or erry 6mo, whichever comes 1st

asciilifeform: ( iirc 5c/min )

asciilifeform: i.e. by my reckoning, 9 months of service if nobody calls, and fewer if sumbody does

asciilifeform: 18bux upfront; 180.18 'phree credit' remaining

asciilifeform: it's an aol-style 'cheap but then let'em add the bells & whistles and then they'll pay' sorta thing.

asciilifeform: subj is far from my daily doings so i have presently nfi just where they get'em

asciilifeform: i suspect it's a dns-style racket, they purchase the #s somewhere & resell

asciilifeform: possibly not quite this sad, but there apparently was d00ds filling out spreadshits by hand

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cuz promised 'next day' and turned out ~week, and place runs on meat/monkeys rather than (as implied) comp

asciilifeform: and make acct 2nd time, and various liquishit paperworx

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaactually had to fight with vendor ~daily for ~week

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860876 << how do you know you aint feeding overlapping rngola to the parallel processes ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: mod6: did it go to eggog immediately or long-tone for a while ?

asciilifeform: mod6: i dun see any calls in the log. gonna write to the vendor shortly.

asciilifeform brb

asciilifeform: btw mod6 , i haven't tested the pnoje thing yet, why dontcha try it while i go to tea

asciilifeform: so if you like i can leave it on for a spell

asciilifeform: mod6: we have coupla month worth of 'phree' credit tho

asciilifeform: mod6: aha

asciilifeform: wasn't so painful, was it.

asciilifeform: ( possibly the algebra can be shortened tho )

asciilifeform: anyway i suspect it makes sense to ave1 , he came up with the correct answ

asciilifeform: ( there's no point to having the 'Bit1' constant tho )

asciilifeform: loox like.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: nao lemme see yours..

asciilifeform: ^ can prolly simplify further

asciilifeform: ave1: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ssOkG/?raw=true

asciilifeform: unrelatedly, 'for I in Integer range S'First .. S'First + 3 loop' is problem, what if yer string has <4 chars

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: ( bonus is that the closed form is not only constant time, but substantially faster on pc, nomoar branch prediction misses ) ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i was gonna post an edited ver of ave1's thing, but thought he might enjoy doing with own hands

asciilifeform: i illustrated this in ffa

asciilifeform: ave1: ~rotate~ A instead of shifting, then and with 1, then it'll be in the correct place

asciilifeform: nomoar if's.