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asciilifeform: *distinctly
asciilifeform: many of'em had a distintly la delle flavour. but for archaeologist not entirely uninteresting .
asciilifeform: ( warning : oddball format )
asciilifeform: and indeed BingoBoingo , there lies yer uruguayan '45 ...
asciilifeform: 452 scans , no less.
asciilifeform: ( and, lulzily, what was 1nce '31337 w4r3z' is nao hosted by the beast itself on national archive www...
asciilifeform has fond memories of 'paladin' from olden warez days, had a coupla very entertaining, if not 100% practical, pieces
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in re ye olde 'paladin' co , found a kind of bio of the late owner , apparently very frustrated vietnam war d00d .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for what argentards to invade uy ? to steal the pot-flavoured empanadas ??
asciilifeform: ( recall, he had 1 of those mysteriously-incombustible passports that lay , Officially, on his corpse when they napalmed the house he was in )
asciilifeform: made temporarily famous by that black policeman fella who 'postal' coupla yrs ago.
asciilifeform: shells are ~5 $ ea. usually.
asciilifeform: approx same as for decent pc.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 4-5 k $ in gringolandia typically.
asciilifeform: if sudden infestation of elephants (or ww1 tanks) -- folx well-equipped!111
asciilifeform: pretty common among moneyed folx in usa.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'barrett' . (btw moar hits for ~this~ barrett than for the other barrett in ~all searchtrons, lol)
asciilifeform: lotsa wasted joules in that fireball. the powder wants a barrel to do its thing in.
asciilifeform: similar problem with 1990 ru police favourite, the 'short kalash'
asciilifeform saw 1 fired at a local shooting gallery, pretty great fireball. designer oughta have given it a screw-on barrel extender imho, nobody cancelled physical law
asciilifeform: that 1 !
asciilifeform recalls a great mircea_popescu thrd about a 7kg rhinoceros-calibre pistol, but sadly cannot immediately find
asciilifeform: famously aha
asciilifeform: ( maybe in the warm continents, where even grunts issued armours tend to throw'em out , a la vietnam -- moar relevant ? nfi )
asciilifeform: the slow, blunt 45 is moar of a police interest item than for any kinda war. there's an infamous case where 2 drunken red army sargeants had 'duel at dawn at 50 paces' w/ lendlease 'thompsons' . both scored, neither penetrated the wool greatcoat.
asciilifeform: ~10% moar
asciilifeform never grasped why nato picked up luger as Official standard rather than colt's
asciilifeform: entirely decent holes afaik
asciilifeform: .45 is imho pretty good , of the historic calibers. usually subsonic right outta the box, even (i.e. silenceable)
asciilifeform: iirc large qty was surplussed by usg in bush II yrs (gestapo moved to some oddball newfangled caliber, iirc .40)
asciilifeform: interesting
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this last 1 sounds likely
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the colt acp also afaik uncommon outside of north amer
asciilifeform: kinda like that samsung air conditioner, built with flammable coolant to europistani spec despite moar than half being sold in usa
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rright but for some reason most of the brasil people build vaguely to usa spec, historically
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lacking the gas brake, most of salvo is likely to end up in ceiling. hasty, shoddy work.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: just about 100% a basement-built , fire-from-open-bolt design ( these are Officially proscribed in usa even when half-auto , so unlikely to be industrially-baked )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: observe , no muzzle break, either , dollars to doughnuts 'plumbing shop' build
asciilifeform: err, BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: dafuq is that
asciilifeform: billymg: lol! loox like cross breed b/w 'tec9' and schmeisser ??
asciilifeform bbl:moarmeat
asciilifeform: 'axe-time, sword-time, shields a'sundered, wind-time, wolf-time...'(tm)(r)(elder eda)
asciilifeform: the pike, the axe, the sword
asciilifeform: i suspect mp_en_viaje's formulation is equivalent to mine.
asciilifeform: the imho interesting aspect was trying to pry open is, from where comes the larger items from which then decay.
asciilifeform: of reversion to 'what fits in turnip head' mean aha.
asciilifeform: the natural process being stalled, is what was speaking of.
asciilifeform: is why even in simple man-made tooling gotta have 'written standards'. otherwise result is pythonism etc.
asciilifeform: as asciilifeform sees it, almost definitionally 'civilization' as in written , organized culture, is attempt to stall the drift.
asciilifeform: the meat drifts pretty slowly.
asciilifeform: fuckno (and noshit) , mp_en_viaje described this imho 100% correctly in linked piece
asciilifeform: still -- drifted.
asciilifeform: arguably medieval latin was a deliberate attempt at 'stable for scholars'
asciilifeform: in mouth of redditus, possibly aint even such a thing as 'stable nucleus'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in mouth of 'scholar' just about anyffin can be 'stable', as in your quality italians. even oddball conlangs. recall the tears of the folx who made up 1945 hebrew when their spawn started speaking it tho.
asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's model, looking only at 'stable' rather than 'better' (in whatever measure, e.g. the 1 where english is fucking ~impossible to write quality lit , not even speaking of poem, or unambiguous argument, etc. in )
asciilifeform: ( to run w/ the model -- homeric era folx, 'well-balanced', get a load of red hot 'sea men' pirate spoodge right up arse, and new 'heavier' lang forms, then proceeds to 'lazy dogs' leprosy-shed pieces, then... rinse, repeat )
asciilifeform: the 1st one, that is, pre-demoocracies, where the minoans bit it
asciilifeform: the orig 'zombie apocalypse' aha
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i cannot disagree. observed, tho, that even the utmost classical greeks were already spewing out loose neutrons, if you will, per model
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: also from getting a foreign alphabet welded to it , kazah-style, and the users lacking the spark of life to fucking fix it
asciilifeform did work through the 'mendeleev table' of these in kindergarten, aha
asciilifeform: that digamma , right
asciilifeform: 'simpler' is possib. wrong word. speaking here of macroscopic part count.
asciilifeform: 'ultralights', the jungle men, ditto, they dun have enuff 'temperature' to 'fuse' into sumthing like what civilized folx speak
asciilifeform: where there aint a chingis han to come an' take a hammer to'em
asciilifeform: observe that 'ultraheavies' e.g. the finns tend to only survive in geo-isolates
asciilifeform: suppose typical shaved ape can only 'lift' so-much lang -- ~4 cases, ~20-30 phonemes, ~4 tenses, roughly. so, per model, 'heavies' form from inelastic collisions of 'stables'. 'lights' -- from elastic collisions.
asciilifeform: consider what other natural object follows 'damn these only ever break apart, but for most of recorded hist we never saw'em get bigger' : nucleus
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness tho :
asciilifeform: i was gonna share a crackpot model of the item but mp_en_viaje already hinted that he has same 1
asciilifeform bbl,meat
asciilifeform: ro's vocative, if modern text is anyffin to go by, is 'falling off' just as ru's fell off
asciilifeform: not even clear to me that the 'decay' is necessarily disaster -- do indo-european folx miss the 15 declensions of finnish ? ( has e.g. 'into', 'out of', buncha other 'extras' cases )
asciilifeform: ro cyrillic variant had it. ( bulgaria -- till end of ww2 )
asciilifeform: ( for folx who aint archaeologists -- 'ѣ' ended up turned into 100% 'е', but at one pt was a distinctly elongated æː )
asciilifeform: and of course ye olde ѣ . lenin gets the credit/blame for the cuts, but 5 successive monarchs in fact proposed to cut the dead glyphs, each time ran into opposition from 'ohnoez, ornament of the language!111' academicians
asciilifeform: ( in the former, most famous case, 'Война и мiръ' turned into 'Война и мир' by decree of lenin, but the 'i' had already stopped being phonetic 200+y prior )
asciilifeform: ru and jp in fact in quite recent (300-400y) period
asciilifeform: erry lang asciilifeform ever bothered to study, when dug found that it lost sounds over all recorded span (with the eventual, if delayed, loss of the glyphs that represented'em)
asciilifeform: i can easily see where ideas like this may've come from
asciilifeform has been slowly eating greeks for a while, and the (sovok) texts take special care to rub this in, and asciilifeform finds interesting
asciilifeform: errybody seems to only ever ~lose~ sounds (and cases, and...) never ~gain~
asciilifeform: this is btw a long-standing q in asciilifeform's head -- wai is it that lang knobs only ever seem to ~fall off~ in archaeologically-visible period. almost as if they were only formed in 'supernovae' of some sort, and then afterwards only decay
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938854 << and 'pre-classical' greeks had the digamma... and the classical folx already had a silent iota in various dipthongs, previously voiced per archaeologists. also 'lazy dog' ? ( where lived the non-lazy dog, in stone age ? )
asciilifeform observes that 9 times outta 10 this is what 'oh hey there's a library knob for this?' leads to...
asciilifeform: )
asciilifeform: ( observe that folx running the prev. version of 'reader' are unaffected
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938845 << ty mp_en_viaje , found culprit: a built-in idjicy in the pythonism that asciilifeform used to implement doublequotes. i'ma have to rewrite that mechanism.
asciilifeform: !q uptime
asciilifeform: aand the new bot. that's pretty much it.
asciilifeform: up/down arrows in displayer (really only useful on pocket comps and other exotic terminals, but asciilifeform sometimes uses) go to start/end of page
asciilifeform: double-quotes in search prevent query breakup (but not yet force word-boundary match)
asciilifeform: 'action' lines nao properly colourized.
asciilifeform: i'ma fix it later in the week if no one else does.
asciilifeform: given as indices are per-chan
asciilifeform: 'tape' knob i realized is unusable shortly after cut patch, it needs to be rewritten so as to give 'last N' , rather than using start/end index from the earlier raw-log knob
asciilifeform: see readme.txt re detailed list.
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! logotron tree updated! all changes are live !