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mjr___: geolocate is not a "requirement" in fact, the whole site will have as few requirements as possible
mjr___: though i may be a bit more academically rigorous in the futuer
mjr___: truff1es: i think i'll edit the formatting on the copy and pasted parts...i'll see if there is a different way to show that they are not my words
mjr___: So this is a rough draft first start
tiberiusiv: while bugpowder claimed we would have a weekend sell off
truff1es: i can be a harsh critic if u want my brutal honesty let me know :)
dub: in happier news my new local chinese takeout has a street fighter 2 machine
kakobrekla: >I should have been clear on the aspect of the design and basic functionality - I think bitstamp is a clean interface but you are right, they have their flaws. Engine wise, I'd look towards the process MtGox is taking on and the partnerships they have forged with various companies to increase their survival (see: Prolexic partnership).
kakobrekla: >Small issues friend. We are attempting to make our exchange very reputable. I don't see value this year, but 10 years down the road when crypto-currencies are truly the trend. Our vision is to build a long lasting product for our market - We need a good team to do that.
mircea_popescu: I am just speculating but it seems to me that Mircea isn't really a racist even though he could have conveyed his point more gently by considering the history of racism and ethnic discrimination in the U.S. and the fact that Bitcoin is popular within the same demographic of people that will actually read him, despite his Armenian descent he could have been more considerate of other nations
mircea_popescu: a laptop is basically neversafe to use again, unless you take it apart.
dub: helpfully washing a laptop and mining rig
mircea_popescu: dub a week
benkay: are you referencing a conversation from a few days back?
mircea_popescu: all bitcoin has is one fat girl and a broken segway.
jurov: asciilifeform: iirc iranians spoofed btc already and captured a drone
kakobrekla: >>Oh, and next time you trash and break a Segway in Vienna that Alex paid for because some fat girl offers you a hug...DONT RUN AWAY AND LEAVE THE SEGWAY IN THE STREET!!!!!! (true story for whoever wants to know. Roger, Erik and myself were there)
kakobrekla: genjix: Tihan is a manipulative sociopath.
asciilifeform: somebody ought to make a quick buck marketing usb rhubidium clocks to "supernode" fellows
asciilifeform: seriously, even the dinkiest fm radio station has a rhubidium clock (to help stay in its purchased frequency band.)
asciilifeform: a clock based on nuclear decay would suck
mircea_popescu: a ok
asciilifeform: only stable isotopes are used in a clock
asciilifeform: or buy a cesium timepiece yourself (4 figures USD on ebay) or a rhubidium one if you're a cheapskate.
asciilifeform: and of course you maintain a local server, that the radio signal can only over-ride by a second or so delta either way
asciilifeform: the industrial products, sure. but with a consumer stick the functionality is the same, minus the steel case.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only stuff like that i've seen is roughly larger than a server blade
asciilifeform: you can get the receiver on a usb stick, and it will fit even there
asciilifeform: is is secreted in a slave girl's arse?
asciilifeform: what are you using, a Palm Pilot?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can synch time on a non-networked server using a GPS/GLONASS/Beidou-1 receiver
mircea_popescu: time synch is a mutherfuckin pain
Namworld: With colorful bitcointalk.org people as NPCs and a whole lot of cheap jokes and parody?
Namworld: "Retards: a Bitcoin Story"?
Namworld: [16:06] <mircea_popescu> i need someone to code me a mmorpg
mircea_popescu: i need someone to code me a mmorpg
benkay: and it looks a little computationally intensive
benkay: I have a feeling that parameterizing the space and understanding how the engine works is vastly more useful than any existing software package
truff1es: <benkay> there's a log now>>> where?
asciilifeform: but in a few dark corners of the world, results actually matter
asciilifeform: (e.g. you don't have to measure the physical objects and fit them to a coordinate grid)
asciilifeform: I actually sell a replacement for the latter in one of my day jobs: http://www.molboxllc.com/products.html
mircea_popescu: a fucking CAT scan is you fucking a robot.
asciilifeform: example: my colleague prints an iphone cradle, brings in five attempts. the phone fits in the fifth, but only because he threw in the towel and took a hand file to it
asciilifeform: i.e. you need actual brains to make a useful object, to spec
asciilifeform: my argument isn't that solid printing is a waste of time (it is an interesting hobby) but that it is unlikely to displace industrial production for any everyday object
asciilifeform: re: 3d printers: I work with a guy who is a serious solid printing enthusiast (five figure investment in various attempts, and most of his spare time.) he prints objects like phone charging cradles and parts for model aircraft.
asciilifeform: I got a month of running log, sure
benkay: there's a log now
asciilifeform: damn, went off to meatspace for a spell and missed all the fun here.
ThickAsThieves: cryto-trade.com was supposed to be a BTC-e competitor, but now it seems it was about as scammy as we thought
mircea_popescu: ltc may have a chance. maybe.
ThickAsThieves: they can even make money pumping the alts too, it just seems like it's a house of cards
cads: benkay: lets talk more about 3dp later - I think there is a great future in personal desktop-based manufacturing, and it seems like 3dp is positioned to bring it to the consumer. There are lots of points of contention I'd love to chat about, but I gotta jet.
ThickAsThieves: i had a thought about altcoin manipulaiton today, it seems that every new altcoin that pops up, magically has buyers on BTC-E. I wonder if it'd be feasible to support new coins so as to keep the difficulty low on the one coin you really want to control and prop up later, like litecoin. You get everyone to move their hashes elsewhere, and then keep reaping LTC, then you pull the plug
mircea_popescu: consequently there's no way to outcompete dust txs, cause you don't pay a fee to be relayed
mircea_popescu: ah, actually, there is a reason
benkay: just barely less than a cent today
cads: Yep. the print time of a part scales with the part's volume. The milling time of a contoured part scales with the amount of material removed, but more importantly, with the feature count of the surface produced.
benkay: carve off the bits you need for dimensional correctness with a mill
cads: asciilifeform: this is not true - for a well tuned commercial printer, the process of turning a 3d design into gcode is almost trivial. Coding g-code for a cnc mill is amazingly hard for high complexity parts, and often requires the production of specialized tooling and setup costs for each new part you produce
cads: appplications for 3d printing are amazingly wide ranging. The cubify is a mass produced unit in the $1200 range, intended for crafts and hobbies, school classrooms, children, and so on.
cads: what I heard was a lot about printing guns, without any mention of things like the thingiverse, the form 1, makerbot industry's successes, the fact that the staples is rolling out a 3d printer that will be sold from their stores (the cubify offering).
asciilifeform: granted, there is quite a leap from Lilienfeld's cupric oxide transistor to kitchen table VLSI. but it seems like a promising idea to investigate.
asciilifeform: "...a paper, JVST A Volume 20, Issue 4, pp. 1365-1368 describing transistors made with anodized aluminum gate insulator and a chemical bath deposited semiconductor (CdS/CdSe). Both are techniques that do not require complicated equipment (beaker, current source, heater) and should have been accessible in the 1920s."
asciilifeform: "in 1995 R. G. Arns found a 1948 legal deposition by Johnson which said the opposite: that Bell Labs back then had a project to test Lilienfeld's transistors, and before Johnson took over the project,"
benkay: got a point source for waving around with em fields by using a pinhole
benkay: asciilifeform a friend of mine built an ion beam microscope
mircea_popescu: no but i mean... you will need a laser.
mircea_popescu: a
asciilifeform: meaning a plebe's budget.
asciilifeform: btw, I am personally researching a means for fabricating 1980s-level VLSI in "bush conditions." No prizes for guessing why. But I cannot promise that anything will come of it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you own a chip fab? does it fit in your house? why, or why not? using the term "printing" for photomask fabrication is disingenuous.
mircea_popescu: " If he just wanted to make a working gun out of a barrel and bolt, he could have done so with duct tape, modeling clay and superglue."
truff1es: cads u seem like an intellectual who has succumbed to wordly distractions, its a shame youve given up on uni but gl nonetheless
asciilifeform: btw, I personally have a design for a 3d printer which prints solid steel. think "TIG welder" plus XYZ frame. but this would be ruinously expensive to run, and would burn down the house of the first idiot who builds on in his garage. so, unpublished.
mircea_popescu: imagine a remote opperated batter of gun printers and robofirers
asciilifeform: my point wasn't that it is physically impossible to make small arms out of garbage (it is possible) but that a 3d printer gains you nothing compared to using parts straight from the junkyard.
mircea_popescu: as in, it's extremely unlikely you won't find a debrittleing additive
mircea_popescu: i was making a point!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look up the temperature of the inside of a barrel (of the smallest pistol) after one shot.
asciilifeform: if all you want is 17th century tech, you can easily make single-shot pistol or shotgun from hardware store pipes. and it will be far more reliable (and deadly to the enemy, vs. the user) than anything you can get out of a $3k 3d printer.
mircea_popescu: before you make a TOW 6 barrel double rotating machine gun
mircea_popescu: dude, let's make a pistorl
asciilifeform: a barrel flexes (watch an AK on full auto on youtube, high speed camera. 4-5 cm of flex, like a Slinky.)
mircea_popescu: so you will be able to ACTUALLY print a harder-than-steel barel witha good 3d printer
mircea_popescu: actually! here's a blueprint : i bet you can get a formulation of some sort of carbide, maybe even tungsten base, to dissolve in a solvent that evaporates at room temeprature
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you can produce a polymer which reliably stays in one piece in the form of a rifled barrel, you can become a far, far richer man than you already are.
asciilifeform: for those who have never seen an AR, the "lower" is simply a small can which holds the trigger/hammer mechanism, with the stock screwing into one end and the bold carrier/barrel assembly (known as the "upper") into the other end.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: find me a polymer which can be used to produce a barrel reliably firing modern calibers. I know people who will pay very serious moneys for such.
asciilifeform: so you can buy the entire metal portion of a Glock, for example (barrel and striker mechanism) with no paperwork, as if it were a video card. because the SN is stamped on an aluminum plate embedded in the lower, plastic portion.
mircea_popescu: he upper receiver of the AR-15 is legally the gun, and a plastic version would melt if it didn’t dissolve from mechanical stress the first time you fired it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it may help to know that the focus on the AR is solely because of a weird quirk of U.S. law
mircea_popescu: "The AR is one of the few rifle designs where you could even think about using a lower receiver made out of plastic."
asciilifeform: a CNC mill is infinitely more useful in practice. but it doesn't have the same sexy appeal to noobs who think they can produce arbitrary widgets just by hitting a button (actually false for both solid printing and cnc)
mircea_popescu: it may surprise you to find that inefficiency is a blessing not a failure.
cads: say my crop gets contaminated by monstanto genetics from a farm up-wind
asciilifeform: if 3d printers actually were what their enthusiasts imagine them to be (a substitute for industrial production) rather than machines for churning out brittle crap, the same dynamic would apply here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if someone found a way to "fix" the atrociously-inefficient RuBisCO enzyme, you could feed a family on what you can grow in a flower vase.
mircea_popescu: and not give a rat's ass about patents or copyrights