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asciilifeform: phf: one could almost think so until realize that it has auto-installers for libs
asciilifeform: trinque: the infamous 'gorillas.bas' came with msdos tho
asciilifeform: i dun even recall there being any oop in ms basic
asciilifeform: i dun see oopism in there ?
mircea_popescu: myeah. monkeys.bas was full of the shit, iirc, but at the time more of a "check out how weird ms is" than anything
asciilifeform: when the remoras got to it.
mircea_popescu: perhaps helped along by the fact that at the time oop was a NEW HOT MUST USE technologee
mircea_popescu: ftr, in the few and far between cases i wrote anything in c++ i also ignored the whole "oop" stuff.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-26 18:57 trinque: when I write py, I try to forget that it has an OOP impl entirely.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-26 18:58 mircea_popescu: ftr, the actual page order varies on each load - diff items at bottom and tompost position. shjould also be fixed this
mircea_popescu: ftr, the actual page order varies on each load - diff items at bottom and tompost position. shjould also be fixed this ☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: it can be useful for that, less painful sometimes than perl or bash
ben_vulpes: trinque: this is why i do webshits in clojure.
trinque: when I write py, I try to forget that it has an OOP impl entirely. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: punkman: mostly the miserable OOP implementation.
trinque: fuck python; it is an example of design for "those people" i.e. the idiot consumer or whoever.
trinque: the thing having pilfered lisp's notion of operating over lists without having added anything novel/useful itself, and having removed many useful things, such as the language itself being those lists
asciilifeform: for another, the fact that i can even ask this !!
asciilifeform: for one thing, python 2 or 3
asciilifeform: punkman: iirc we had a 'why we hate' thread re it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it already annihilates some of the crappier browserz
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i really will have to make it paged
punkman: but what's so terrible about py anyway?
punkman: ben_vulpes: I don't think there's something not to hate
mircea_popescu: Moduli with Obvious Brain-Damage: 1888 << soon to 2k!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (as announced in trilema, months before in the local press etc). << care to qntra a short oped on the matter this evening?
mircea_popescu: yep, guy that runs it actually is from slc.
BingoBoingo: ty mircea_popescu for that portal into Utahian culture
asciilifeform: i used it because i found a pgp parser thing for it.
mircea_popescu: eh, most of the webstack is SO ROTTEN anyway, you're not fighting against serious economic interest.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-26#1457821 << there are some minorly trivial security concerns to keep in mind when building webapps ☝︎
ben_vulpes: not tmsr, me.
mircea_popescu: wait, tmsr helping fascinate girls ? since 2016 ?
ben_vulpes: lectured girl on how this is outgrowth of cultural attitudes around computers that nobody owns
ben_vulpes: phf: saw that, rofld hard
mircea_popescu: and in other news of deep americana interest & BingoBoingo custom tail-ored, http://mormongirlz.com
mircea_popescu: (as announced in trilema, months before in the local press etc).
mircea_popescu: looks like ex-chief whore is going to jail over it, too
mircea_popescu: yeah, that was teh SIDE
asciilifeform: as it is, we're squarely into 'average person has 1 ball and 1 ovary' territory.
mircea_popescu: get THAT in the 100 baltimores it'd take.
mircea_popescu: don't be silly, this is a 10mn pop town with one murder LAST YEAR
asciilifeform: eh i can get this in bmore
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but they're softening, bout half under 100k now, from over 150k a coupla years ago.
mats: ah yes, the fabled technocratic nomad
mircea_popescu: the last time i had a bill in my name i was 15 and thought it was cool.
mircea_popescu: mats you havta appreciate, i don't personally live anywhere ; interface the state away.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the rape the argentines are receiving is SO FUCKING SATISFYING you can't imagine.
mats: ancaps want voluntary state, doesn't this conflict with living in a totalitarian universe of short people?
mircea_popescu: maybe they keep the good ones hidden or something.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu seems to like places about to pop
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu was expecting it to pop ?
mircea_popescu: how's that ?
mircea_popescu: gotta see the world!
mats: idk why you wanted to go in the first place
mircea_popescu: mats i keep trying to convince myself to try china with little result.
BingoBoingo enjoys irony of Bahamas removing early 19th century Bernie Sanders from $20 to replace with founding member of GOP establishment.
mats: work there now, anyways.
mats: i grew up with a number of folks that work there
mircea_popescu: do you know this from experience, hearsay, internets ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> mats so they wanna put random nobody on 20 dollar bill because female and black ? mkay. << Hey, she was a gun rights supporter and early member of the GOP establishment. Definitely a Kasich voter.
mats: there is perennial talk about traditional values, but i suspect its mostly to placate the peasants
mircea_popescu: and the pretense generally annoys me.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between the actuality and the pretense of it.
mircea_popescu: maybe just meeting the wrong crowd.
mats: idk what you're talking about, certainly not a pervasive phenomenon
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that also yeah, but i kept it lowball. i guess 1.75+ counts for A+++ in there.
mircea_popescu: mats indeed not. and also can't fucking stand the obnoxious habit of whining and no-no-no-ing etc.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu is into chix as tall as he is, of whom there are ~3 in cn.
mircea_popescu: mats what's it take to be able to pick among the B/B+s 19-29 in beijing these days ? 1mn cash + 500k/year ?
mats: or they wouldn't be pancakeface anymoar
mats: i can tell you don't know many azns
mats: i personally dunno anyone that cares about it. money is the new religion.
mircea_popescu: fortunately ~nobody cares about pancakeface gurlz. otherwise we'd be in deep shit, from what i hear the demand is pretty crazy in china.
mats: and it is even more fragmented than in the past
mats: confucianism is not as popular as it used to be
mircea_popescu: fwiw, this was pretty much the only thing keeping china from demographic collapse except in 1100 not in 1900 like barbarian europe.
asciilifeform: but this is not the only criterion.
asciilifeform: teaches son to venerate father, not Great Inca.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incompatible with 'star topology' !!!
mircea_popescu: mats what do you mean no culture ? confucianism is very good cowsy culture, i'm surprised it didn't become more popular in the us sooner
mats: i've never been able to wrap my head around these things, looks purely -ev but what do i know about economy anyways
asciilifeform: aside from career linguists, i know ~no one doing this.
mats: my understanding is it is purely a soft power thing, teach people mandarin, expose 'em to chinese 'culture' (there is history but no culture), with the aim of developing foreign assets perhaps
asciilifeform: if they are beginning to 'institute' it means the local poison has done its work on'em.
asciilifeform: mats: afaik most of these folk dun do 'studies', they do engineering etc
mats: topically, there are a lot more 'confucius institutes' since i last checked
asciilifeform: from that point on, rot.
asciilifeform: mats: they WERE, until su kgb did in the 1960s the equivalent of spraying mercury into aluminum airplane, and injected usa with 'cultural marxism' and xyz-studies etc.
mats: i dunno why americans aren't proud of beating the savages into submission and taking all their shit
mircea_popescu: punkman clearly, tardpedia works as intended.
punkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harriet_Tubman&offset=&limit=100&action=history lol check out the edits by the dozen
mircea_popescu: "hey kids - here's a take home story : for as long as you subscribe to the correct/fashionable ideology, you too can one day be 20-dollar famous, provided were born with the right gene combo."
mircea_popescu: mats so they wanna put random nobody on 20 dollar bill because female and black ? mkay.
mircea_popescu: punkman last i saw ~50% of pop made ~500 euros, but w/e, thereabouts.
mats: some of the whining is a rehash of 'why is jackson the oppressor even on our money' and the rest is 'why a black woman, now, and what happened to the refresh of the $10 first?'
mircea_popescu: not necessarily surprising they wouldn't print a lot tho, what's most peopel to do with their salary in a single bill ?
mircea_popescu: punkman i've yet to have a bank bitch when ordered to deliver
mats: i dno, weirdly enough most of the noise is from my network that is like 5% white and weren't born in us
asciilifeform: abolished, to make transport of megabux harder