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usagi: and I hate javascript. We seriously need
a Javascript++ soon
ericmuyser: it was absolutely
a bug. saw it say canceled. did not work.
fiat500: considering it was probably
a bug that caused this, #1 is the best option
jborkl: If 80% comes back, that would be
a win
usagi: If your going to build
a JVM you might as well have built
a compiler, whats the effin diff
fiat500: ThickAsThieves: the problem is
a lot of people might have divs reinvestment set up
ericmuyser: ThickAsThieves: sounds like burnside'll have to reverse the divs if the system allows
a negative balance and he's willing to cause complication. seems like reimbursing you would be easier
usagi: Maybe I'm living in
a bubble
usagi: I've never needed lambda functions and I've never had
a problem with the GC
Diablo-D3: it doesnt have
a green threads/fibers implementation
Diablo-D3: its badly engineered, it still suffers from
a stop the world gc, its not sufficiently functional, it has no concept of lambda functions
Diablo-D3: ericmuyser: I maintain
a java program, trust me, its not fast enough
ericmuyser:
a lot of languages use it as
a dropin replacement now
usagi: Everything that isn't C or Java (and java is c-based) is some ridiculous startup that can't find
a solid footing
fiat500: my opinion on java is that it exists so that the weak minds have
a language to use
fiat500: anyway my point is that coinlab is taking on new customers now, so perhaps they reached
a resolution with gox?
usagi: I actually have
a lisp
Diablo-D3: usagi: actually, next went objc because it was easy to use and they had
a hardon for smalltalk
Diablo-D3: usagi: yeah, but its
a little more complex than that
usagi: Remember. Steve jobs was never really
a tech or
a programmer. He was
a business jock and
a socialite. Wozniak was the tech
fiat500: its
a language implementation
fiat500: how is this
a flaw of the compiler?
fiat500: you know -new is
a shortcut for -alloc + -init
fiat500: thats not necessarily
a bad thing however
usagi: I am really really suprised at how much MacOS reminds me of
a well-oiled linux dist
fiat500: i could set up
a bot in here to sit and watch but i am loathe to that idea
fiat500: topace: can i get API access to havelock tickers somehow? im building
a (free) data aggregator service
usagi: What purer form of bet is there than
a coin toss? :)
usagi: It is
a 'betting' site
Diablo-D3: [10:02:03] <fiat500> Diablo-D3: if you are selling that many, would you be interested in selling 80 to
a colleague of mine?ç
usagi: He should. if Erik was MPOE-PR things would be
a lot better
mjr_: mircea_popescu: while i think mpoe-pr is very smart, i don't know if most would see that, while she brilliantly can eviscerate others ideas, rarely does she posit her own, and as
a PR person, its not really her job to do so, but rather to point at others who have done
fiat500: 16:00 < mircea_popescu> on
a ship afloat
a sea of idiots
mircea_popescu: i dunno how he manages not to explode, drowned in
a barrel of idiots
usagi: well if it helps, I am
a fully enlightened zen master.
mjr_: i actually think the dumbest people in the bitcoin space have to be
a little smarter than the average american when it comes to economics
mjr_: anyways, this is why hoarding will never work as
a long term strategy
mjr_: but whether he lives or dies, the gold touch was
a curse not
a blessing
mjr_: its
a myth, it has
a ton of different endings i'm sure
usagi: According to Aristotle, legend held that Midas died of hunger as
a result of his "vain prayer" for the gold touch.
mjr_: if someone could channel and use the tons of homeless people we have towards
a purpose they could become very rich
mjr_: but there is
a rate we agree upon where we will consider it to be rat turd free
mjr_: which is
a specific term
mjr_: but we have
a "risk free rate"
mjr_: yes, but there is such
a thing as
a risk free rate
usagi: graet runs ozcoin and weexchange and
a few others
usagi: deadweasel; I own
a couple thousand shares
mjr_: the main point that i took away was that the pie is not fixed in size, none of the things we have now were found in
a forest, we built them, man creates wealth, not finds it
mjr_: so
a homeless guy is not only an affront to my sense of decency and aesthetics, its also robbing me of what he could have produced
mjr_: point is, unless you feel like by yourself producing everything you will ever want, its
a good idea for other people to have money
mjr_: you can't buy liquor in
a dry county in america
mjr_: you can have millions of dollars in the bank, if you have no cash and walk into
a cash only restaurant, you're broke
mjr_: have you ever been to
a dry county in america?
mjr_: the tale of king midas was
a cautionary tale, too many forget that
mjr_: but all the robber barons donated
a LOT to charity
usagi: Well that was
a vastly different time
mjr_: but anyway, the point is that you want to build
a society that is great, not
a house that is great
mjr_: so, bums harrassing me for change is not my idea of
a good time
mjr_: i want to live in
a nice area, surrounded by others who live in
a nice area, where i am safe from threat of theft and physical harm
mjr_: people need to see the broad view of value, understand that no one wants to live in
a mansion in
a ghetto
mjr_: if keeping people fed costs less than hiring
a private army to protect your wealth it is rational to keep people fed
mjr_: its not about having
a heart
usagi: You know, having
a heart is probably going to turn out to be
a weakness one day, mjr
usagi: I spent
a long time living on the streets, and all I learned can be summed up as... the cream always rises to the top, and, you can't keep
a good man down
usagi: mjr_ I don't know. The truth is, if you look at the people who end up starving on the streets
a great majority of them cannot be helped by any system
mjr_: usagi: i will take
a look at that
mjr_: i do not want to live in
a society where people are allowed to starve to death on the streets
usagi: If you really want to understand money, read mises.. "
a history of money and banking..." great book
mjr_: i was worried about the social implications, i think everyone should have
a guaranteed bare minimum quality of life
usagi: I have
a vast and newfound respect for the man
usagi: "In absence of
a proper education, most assume that society just arbitrarily decided to make gold money, and that any other commodity would have worked roughly as well. " This ewasn't mircea's talk
mjr_: usagi: this is my point, he is reexamining what people take as already understood, showing it is not understood, and then enlightening, all while using
a great vocabulary and grammar...he is explaining water to fish
mjr_: he typically says what he says in
a calm collected way
usagi: Have you read "
A History of Money and Banking in the United States"?
mjr_: if you read what he wrote about bitcoin as money, it was the perfect piece to explain bitcoin from
a historical financial perspective
usagi: Should probably hire
a better PR though
usagi: Sure, he's
a smart guy
mjr_: or this
a newer one?
mjr_: isn't that
a super old video?
usagi: Taaki was the wrong person to put on crosstalk, he's
a good speaker but clearly untrained in debate
usagi: I mean come on, I've been on TV before, I was in
a few asian soap operas, at least I'm photogenic
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do you do if
a chick thinks your earwax tastes great ?!
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a while, the header wasn't laying out correctly
mircea_popescu: these are unequal concepts.
a bug is
a bug in any definition. it may only be harmless for some definitions of harm
fiat500: its just
a redundant email informing you of
a change that already happened
fiat500: to be fair mircea_popescu, this is
a pretty harmless bug :P
fiat500: Diablo-D3: if you are selling that many, would you be interested in selling 80 to
a colleague of mine?