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truffles: has there been a romanian that was really nice hmm
moxipro-: a point was surely about to be made
truffles: moxipro r u a top or a bottom?
jcpham: yeah a little heads up before hand
proximo-: takes a fraudster to spot one
jcpham: pirateat40 said a was a vluable member of his network of trust
proximo-: popescu is a con artist
mircea_popescu: im not even a great target ;/
proximo-: sitting around with his 50eur a night whores and snorting bolivian coke all day
proximo-: jurov: hes not a direct thief, hes a fraudster. and a clever one. of course he doesnt directly steal.
jurov: proximo-: do you have better evidence than this one case? where mpex client did not actually have anything stolen, just a trade reversed?
mircea_popescu: esp if you're a fan of dollar accounting.
proximo-: with an A game.
proximo-: mircea_popescu is a professional fraudster
gribble: You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Mar 29 06:56:09 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: His beard is sexy..
ThickAsThieves: i could come up with a con argument for 95% of bitcoin invetsments
proximo-: its still a con.
proximo-: sells worthless assets at a premium
proximo-: uses his exchange + social engineering skills to run a classic boiler room scam
proximo-: hes a con artist plain and simple.
ThickAsThieves: mp being laughed is surely not a factor for him
proximo-: all of your other business's barely generate a profit.
mircea_popescu: well it's also building a new model caltrop but i forgot to mention.
proximo-: does minigame have a website?
proximo-: or is it just a scam.
Diablo-D3: wtf is that in a real number
ThickAsThieves: (Gavin Andresen) I don’t foresee us formally creating a spec within the next year … actually really at all. There are so many things to work on, I would rather spend time actually developing the code than creating a spec.
ThickAsThieves: What is your opinion of libbitcoin, and are there plans to create a formal spec for Bitcoin?
truffles: if u can collude in that way, its not a perfect system ofc
jcpham: channel could use a little more trolling
[\]: sorry, when she gets 'logged in', it isn't for a few minutes
truffles: <thestringpuller> Sounded like PR was talking through mircea_popescu >>> or maybe she logged in for a few minutes
[\]: except the bastard wouldn't give me a real account and must use some stupid passthrough
[\]: and then I got a bunch of almost owrthless crap that pays me money
truffles: art is a different interpretation of life
mircea_popescu: right. which is why i say he has a point.
peterl: right, but you didn't exactly say "we have a botomless need for art", it sounds more like "we might need a picture or two drawn sometime"
mircea_popescu: peterl well it's a mmorpg, they're bottomless pits.
mircea_popescu: peterl nah he has a point, twasn't nearly insisted upon enough
mircea_popescu: anyway. here's what i'm gonna do : i'ma steal this dialogue and post it as a comment
mircea_popescu: now, avenue A : i'm an asshole and steal his 2k px poster. I print it and hang it in my bedroom.
peterl: So the art contest is more of a job application for artists to get work from S.MG?
mircea_popescu: so he sits down and makes a 2k px thing and posts it.
ThickAsThieves: hell you paid 10btc when they worth more for people to photochop a rape scene and look at the crap you got
ThickAsThieves: ive had a number of guys with money and the next big idea come thru my doors wanting freebies and cheapies
ThickAsThieves: i do agree that a good artist will be inspired to speculate on the right project
mircea_popescu: but in fact it's a BSA
mircea_popescu: this is all fine and good, but an artist needs to turn off the tv once in a while.
mircea_popescu: yeah. organisations sponsored by an alliance of the A, trying to prevent the B from A-ing
mircea_popescu: as far as i can see, it's trivial do distinguish C from B. seeing how teh B need me to become A... no brainer.
mircea_popescu: this is a theory.
mircea_popescu: just, in this case, it's quite clear i can't take it and run. da fuck am i gonna do with a splashscreen
ThickAsThieves: there is indeed a crowded market in B
mircea_popescu: the only reason i'm even contemplating the Bs is this. otherwise i'd just hire A and piss over everyone
ThickAsThieves: do you know how many if opportunities a good but not successful artist gets?
mircea_popescu: this is what it means to be in a start-up.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves how's it uncertain ? if the game is a success they'll be the new famous guy.
ThickAsThieves: yes, but while A would put you in heavy competition
mircea_popescu: now, your contention is that B will be too pretentious to recognise a helping hand when one's extended, and only C will contribute
mircea_popescu: B has a serious problem in that it wants to be A, in many cases it should be A, however... it's not A.
mircea_popescu: now, A is likely to be already overpaid, as per Peter's principle. my basic management rulebook says "never compete in crowded markets". so, i am not VERY interested in A.
mircea_popescu: types of people who think they produce art : A. people with a history, who get paid well already. B. people with talent but no history. C. idiots who produce garbage.
ThickAsThieves: well its not a new thing
mircea_popescu: they want to be involved, they sacrifice a little of their time and make a drawing.
mircea_popescu: one whole bitcoin adn a little over a third of another
mircea_popescu: bitcoin generally needs a lot of it and i think tio a large degree the problem is people never saw an open model.
mircea_popescu: and i gave a honest answer.
mircea_popescu: i expect a pedestal for this.
mircea_popescu: a willingness to be open and give people chances should NEVER be construed as my inability.
ThickAsThieves: assuming that was a precursor to S.MG
ThickAsThieves: mp, were you unable to find a suitable artist from our previous conversation?
ThickAsThieves: unfortunately it would require a majority of users to actually coordinate
jcpham: I'm down for a staged run
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: I dunno, Im a transformers kind of guy
mjr_: you need a futures market, settled monthly, so you only have to move actual coins once a month
ThickAsThieves: i keep a spreadsheet for myself to make sure i dont sell naked
ThickAsThieves: you could set up a bot to audit me autmatically
jborkl: I am saying, -I do not beleive you are, but you have a idea how easy it could be
ThickAsThieves: i can think of a number of ways his system could be abused by this practice
ericmuys_: i bet your deposits go into a cold storage and he just credits your account with "btc points" you can withdraw, only a portion at a time
jcpham: i'd like to follow my money on a ledger
ThickAsThieves: i have to wait for manual withdrawals multiple times a day
ThickAsThieves: BTCT.co keeps like a 50btc hot wallet
jborkl: you can fractionally bank toilet paper, just hope not too many people have to take a shit at the same time
ThickAsThieves: it's a factor with bitcoin, it being as anonymous as it is public
jcpham: website who scam are a awhole nother topic
jcpham: for every dollar that stays in bitcoin, that's a 100 that _should never_ exist in a fractional reserve bank
jborkl: Formerly a gold day-trader, he began buying Bitcoin two years ago and this March gave up his flat and sold his possessions to begin squatting.
mjr_: its a currency, not a person
mjr_: anyway, I think it went ok, up to the Amir part...what a retard
ThickAsThieves: http://www.asig.asia/ these guys want me to send a "fund brochure (if any) for my board of directors and could would like to know about funds inner workings ( eg. ROI, risks, etc)" for ASICM on Havelock
jborkl: Well, at least you look pro in the photo, not like a idiot in his basement
ThickAsThieves: it's a sleeping mohawk
jcpham: is that a bun
jborkl: I am just saying, maybe they should have gotten a few better pics
jborkl: not have to sell your shoes, to get a bitcoin loan?
jcpham: how many bitcoins before i am a large investor
jborkl: multi billion market cap with a couple plastic chairs and no shoes
ThickAsThieves: "Matt Hopard, a small investor in Bitcoin"
jcpham: that's a good line