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mircea_popescu: it was obvious to me glbse is going to shit, and so i saw myself forced to make an exchang
mircea_popescu: anyway, at about the same time asicminer got started i wanted to list mpoe.
ChaangNoi: i have no problem with the way he is doing things honestly
mircea_popescu: honestly i think he failed to uinderstand that operations is just piece of the pie, not the whole pie
mircea_popescu: i don't think he is either.
ChaangNoi: i dont think he is scamming, he just does not want a second glbse fail, this is him making sure he wont lose money again
ChaangNoi: that is why i think it is very hard to short this stock
ChaangNoi: i agree
Namworld: I just really wasn't expecting GLBSE to go down.
mircea_popescu: yeah but as i said above, "<mircea_popescu> toffoo yea well, i wouldn't borrow mystical "asciminer" shares. i'd borrow actual tradeable instruments."
Namworld: Yeah. I got a whole BTC to show for that contract >.>
mircea_popescu: i did sell them, yes.
mircea_popescu: Bowjob i wouldn't be borrowing btc to unheard of ppl.
toffoo: it was the cp risk considerations that I didn't like
mircea_popescu: toffoo a good starting point would be the old short contract i made for public use
toffoo: but i thought about it a little deeper today,
toffoo: I was thinking about it too (loaning them)
mircea_popescu: i dunno, a few thousand ?
ChaangNoi: i thought about it, but i did not think the pay off of 1% or so was worth the risk of putting them on an exchange
mircea_popescu: toffoo yea well, i wouldn't borrow mystical "asciminer" shares. i'd borrow actual tradeable instruments.
mircea_popescu: toffoo i'd have a broker sell them for me.
tiberiusiv: can i fund bitcoin-central in 20,000 locations?
pigeons: i had a guy tell me yesterday he wanted to deposit cad with weex but was afraid since the market was so thin, he'd have to pay the 4.50$ withdraw fee
pigeons: i mean people are paying a lot of money for mpoe
Bowjob: honestly, i have no clue about crashes.. im sure no one really knows for sure
Namworld: I could sell them into the 2 satoshi bids...
Namworld: I got puts at 31 from the beggining of the month >.>
Namworld: But I want price to crash
Namworld: I could see us reaching 100... or at least hitting against the resistance there.
ThickAsThieves: similar reports will not be given when i lose
ThickAsThieves: My first day trading options on MPEX and I'm up 22.5%, heyo!
tiberiusiv: i think over the longrun you will be better off just owning btc outright then btc companies
Bowjob: well i asume its painful for just 1 party lol
Bowjob: i remember the fiat value was about 80k usd
tiberiusiv: i dont even think sdice sold out that fast
tiberiusiv: mircea_popescu: i think mpex shares declined due to missing out on the cavirtex ipo
Bowjob: err.. i meant bfl
Bowjob: i wonder if there's gonna be a bet before may 1st avalon
Chaang-Noi: i went long on bitcoinica :)
Bowjob: i'll drive my parents nuts
Chaang-Noi: i think im going to lose my bet thinking bfl would ship this month, lol
mircea_popescu: o i c.
Bowjob: yeah thats a pretty good fund, i like it... but. dat bfl
mircea_popescu: you're going "dude, i'm missing an eye and both legs"
Bowjob: and its guaranteed since i think they'll make people put up collateral
Bowjob: so i assume he's gonna need osme btc
dub: all I see is sour grapes tbh
Bowjob: i can lend some btc there, have 12% guaranteed
Bowjob: I'm interested on the leveraged trading,
mircea_popescu: that's what i pay pr for after all.
Bowjob: i didnt see any dividends back
mircea_popescu: read the forum threads linked above, i won't bother rehashing it.
mircea_popescu: i'm jelly to my ears, srsly.
Bowjob: when i type avalon
topace: hehe yea, i didnt do _anything_ all we did was put the banner on the www.cavirtex.com website and a news article on havelock website
Bowjob: but i dont see it anywgere
Chaang-Noi: i think your just jelly it is not on your exchange and you did not invest with them:)
Bowjob: i dont see it on bitbet
topace: i was baffled why he didnt want to announce it at least a few days ahead of time
Bowjob: it was on the website on cavirtex.. i remember
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i know what the volume is. this :
Chaang-Noi: but you dont even know what the vo;lume is, but i still disagree, some private companies are worth more than highly traded ones
Bowjob: i learned though, if i see huge volume..
Bowjob: i was wrong about vtx, i didnt see any dividends, i didnt think it was gonna get funded
Chaang-Noi: mircea_popescu> 2x asicminer volume yest. why is that ? is cavirtex a larger corp than asicminer ? i was answering this question
Bowjob: i couldnt understand the vtx pump either, i missed it
mircea_popescu: the fact that i can't see it speaks against it not excusing it.
Chaang-Noi: yeah im not selling more, i had to get some cash
Bugpowder_: ah, that thread was the one I was thinking of for the girl's estimates
Bugpowder_: I mean, its a good company.
mircea_popescu: morel ike 100 i think
Bugpowder_: I don't think so
jcpham: i bleedb money though
mircea_popescu: i didn't. teh original mpoe bonds got like 9500 or so btc
mircea_popescu: jcpham i borrowed ~10k exactly a year ago.
MJR_: lol, I prefer lending it when I don't know what will happen...
jcpham: if i had "borrowed" 10k btc a year ago i'd be *poof* right about now
Bowjob: personally i dont like lending btc out, unless its absolutely certain ill get it back
kakobrekla: perhaps i did it a couple of times too
kakobrekla: was trying to avoid that supa guy but eh i guess it was inevitable
kakobrekla: cause i do stuff manually
kakobrekla: can i do a few CANCEL|N in several lines and signcrypt that?
smickles: kakobrekla: i just use threadding in my code
kakobrekla: oh and i was just about to bug mp one of these days to add multi op
Bugpowder: i do too, occasionally.
smickles: all the f-ing time. I can't be the only one
smickles: ya know, i throw about 12 commands at mpex all at once
mircea_popescu: jurov the way i figure it, either attacker is defeated and depressed or else we see a new blast in a week or two.
deadweasel: ok, i think I see.
Bugpowder: by spot I mean last trade.
deadweasel: so if I bough that, I could buy BTC at 75$ up til friday?
deadweasel: O.BTCUSD.C750T -- if I bought one of those, what does that mean?
Bugpowder: I dunno... lots of micro txns.
mircea_popescu: i think there's more load on mpex than mtgox atm.
mircea_popescu: i got better hardware.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this'll ever get old.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i been sendin' tips.
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: I suspect we will see a rotation out of S.MPOE this month.
deadweasel: anyway, i'll deal with being a money transmitter if I ever need to.
deadweasel: i like options.