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jborkl: chaang you are being trolled like a bitch
Chaaaang-Noi: it is looking now like a ponzi, but it was not clear at the time
chsados_: hmm id be willing to bet my entire life savings it was a ponzi
Chaaaang-Noi: also it is yet to be proven pirate was doing a ponzi
chsados_: but is operating as a passthrough that is a ponzi illegal?
Chaaaang-Noi: i never "vouched" and that is not even a legal term
Chaaaang-Noi: investing into a ponzi is not illegal
Chaaaang-Noi: how is this a scam? maybe ill pay off the fbi to not get me so i troll you?
chsados_: Chaaaang-Noi, tiberiusix is being kind of moronic but if i were you id at least be a bit frigthened...are you not?
Chaaaang-Noi: im not holding the escrow, you find a trusted guy...
tiberiusix: YOU ran a pass thru for a large ponzi scheme
tiberiusix: chaang noi you can have as many passports as you liked once your flagged at the airport as a no fly, you wont escape the US before the trial
tiberiusix: chaang noi was a scumbag. and now hes going to pay the price for it
Chaaaang-Noi: i got a lot of fail, but never hacked
tiberiusix: royal thai police do it for them and put your pasty white ass on a plane
tiberiusix: its all over a public forum
asciilifeform: Chaaaang-Noi: do you really think that one has to commit a crime in the usual sense of the word to be thrown into a U.S. prison?
tiberiusix: participated in a 70mil fraud?
chsados_: you ran a PT for a ponzi?
tiberiusix: all he wanted was a thai wife and live the easy life
tiberiusix: mircea is actively interesting so hes prepared when its his turn once he gets taken down for running a boiler room
tiberiusix: locating you wont be a problem
tiberiusix: and your also a US citizen
mircea_popescu: guy used to run guns for the us, eventually they had a falling out.
Chaaaang-Noi: yeah just like i was the fist to invest in AM... im just a scum bag who hatees btc...
tiberiusix: chaang noi you were a scumbag with questionable ethics hence you made the perfect bitcoiner, you looked for trends/coat tails to ride for fast profits
mircea_popescu: Section 27 of the Exchange Act [15 U.S.C. §§ 77v(a) and 78aa] because Defendants may be
mircea_popescu: Venue is proper in this district under Section 22(a) of the Securities Act and
Chaaaang-Noi: he is a pretty good forum admin if you just look at that part
Chaaaang-Noi: i kinda doubt tehy will charge theymos over the glbse stuff, seems like a whole different thing, and mostly in england...
tiberiusix: guy runs a scam bazaar as a forum
Chaaaang-Noi: pirate will tell them i invested a lot of btc into pirate...
tiberiusix: theres a 50% chance you get indicted
tiberiusix: man im not going to go build a case i couldnt give a shit
tiberiusix: your having a discussion with pirate as some sort of a bond/passthru operator
Chaaaang-Noi: that log sure does make it look like i was a crime...
tiberiusix: worse case you lose a few mil and serve 1-2 years
tiberiusix: yes you will be defending yourself in a criminal court, hence what i said to prepare 500-1mil USD
Chaaaang-Noi: it has yet to be proven a pnzi
tiberiusix: chaang noi the point is you were actively participating in a ponzi scheme
tiberiusix: btc is a virtual currency that has value
Chaaaang-Noi: is btc a stock?
tiberiusix: so a few mil turned into tens of mil
Azelphur: I'm glad I made the decision to get out of the politics bullshit and just work as a code monkey
tiberiusix: chaang noi that isnt a indictment
tiberiusix: SEC is just a civil action
Chaaaang-Noi: not a defence, just shows i doubt theymos is working with the fbi
tiberiusix: theymos is a loser hell do anything to save his own skin
dub: but I'm a libertarian!
Chaaaang-Noi: bitinstant is now dead as a money transmiter right?
Chaaaang-Noi: gambling is a bit different
Chaaaang-Noi: what i did was not a crime
tiberiusix: criminal ignorance is not a defense
tiberiusix: chaang you were trying to ride coat tails to make a quick buck
tiberiusix: id say its a coin flip if you get indicted when the criminala ction comes out
tiberiusix: man your all over the forums running a "pass thru" into a 70mil ponzi scheme
Chaaaang-Noi: i ran a feeder fund eh? then i got money from someone? who was that?
tiberiusix: chaang noi you actively ran a feeder into the scheme
Chaaaang-Noi: i troll oin a forum, so the fuck what?
Chaaaang-Noi: that is a wild guess
tiberiusix: chaang thats just a civil action.
tiberiusix: the SEC is merely a civil case pal
tiberiusix: the SEC case isnt a worry its when the DOJ finishes the investigation
tiberiusix: considering all the evidence is public and you ran a feeder fund for a 70mil ponzi.
tiberiusix: id say 60% chance you get named in a DOJ indictment
tiberiusix: not a criminal one, the criminal investigation is still ongoing
Chaaaang-Noi: SEC is not a judge...
tiberiusix: thats a civil action
Chaaaang-Noi: lol, that ponzi is alleged anyway, tht is why there is a trial...
tiberiusix: chaang-noi: you were actively running a feeder for a ponzi scheme
tiberiusix: chaang-noi: you better save your bitcoins for the lawyer fees you are going to have to pay to stay out of a US prison
ThickAsThieves: it's a belize company
Chaaaang-Noi: any reason for people to file a report to the sec?
thestringpuller: defrauding investors is a felony in US right [\\\] ?
[\]: They file and issue a bench warrant
mircea_popescu: [\\\] perhaps. put all your eggs in one basket and watch that basket is a time honored strat.
[\]: mircea_popescu: regardless of your feeling of bitcoin, putting all of your eggs in a single basket is prone to omlets.
mircea_popescu: did i miss a pic ?
[\]: that's a formality. I imagine they're already frozen
Chaaaang-Noi: its a bad photo with a bad phone and im making a funny face :/
mjr_: and a whole new crop coming up
benkay_: some day it's inevitable, but at the moment it feels like a bunch of coders who only see problems to solve with code
benkay_: a+
dub: so anyway, has burnside acknowledged a problem anywhere?
dub: I know, lets make a brand thats completely impossible to remember
gecko_x2: what's a few bitcoins here and there
louong: Someone should do a PT of TAT's PTs
louong: Someone should do a PT, or TAT's PTs
louong: TAT.RAT.A.TAT.TAT
mjr_: when apparently, there are some people who don't think its a scam (or more likely, know it is a scam, but want to be the scammer not the scamee)
Neil_: What a farce
mircea_popescu: should be a couple hours.
Neil_: mircea_popescu: I guess so. Her posts are hard to read between the insults. I'd rather have a piece of the 21 million pie than the 100 billion pie, particularly at current rates.
mircea_popescu: Neil_ you must have missed all the butthuirt on the forum over my "ripple is a scam" post etc huh
Neil_: About 1 in 10 of her posts are worth reading. So generally I skip them if over a couple of lines.
Neil_: Ripple doing its best to demonstrate what a hyperinflationary collapse looks like.
pankkake: "Consequently, all the subterfuge and nonsense induced in fiat accounting by this scourge upon humanity needs not be replicated in Bitcoin", hehe, reminds me of what a nightware VAT accounting is
mircea_popescu: no wait, it's not a charge. it just figures among the charges
mircea_popescu: "tools and infrastructures" is a charge.
mircea_popescu: mjr_ incidentally, in case this isn't obvious to you : some larger organisation took an interest in buttcointalk sometime in may. as a result there's about 100 accounts they control.