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fractal: Anduck: not on
a single unit -- as the language says in the bet
kleeck: Are the assembled kits meeting spec once made into
a mining unit?
fractal: Anduck: I only placed
a NO bet because I didn't belive they'd hit 400Gh in
a single unit. BFL missed, and others. The bet says that there should be
a 400Gh unit shipped, and it should be under 400W.... it might be under 400W, but its not 400Gh
fractal: Anduck: 68 /3 = 22.... 22*16 = 352Gh maximum in
a single 'Miner', or selft contained 'unit' or 'kit..... This does not exist because the manufactuere missed performance specs.... The bet says nothing of customer relations by refunding or sending more hardware
fractal: Anduck: Shipping additonal hardware because the company missed spec does not mean that there is
a 400Gh UNIT
fractal: Anduck: I came in here specifically to ask mircea_popescu and he said that
a 400Gh 'UNIT' must exist --- based on the math, it can't
kleeck: I disagree mircea_popescu. I understand that there are situations, like this one, but there are ways of being more clear and less clear. Therefore clearity exists even if on
a spectrum..
Anduck: who says
a kit can't include 2 m-boards?
Anduck: fractal: as i said, that case is not
a bfsb product
Anduck: fractal: but everyone knows that
a device or unit means
a kit since they only sold kits
mircea_popescu: lol. i guess this is how
a good bet works, it's totally clear to everyone except it doesn't match.
Anduck: kleeck: if one thinks that unit/device is not
a kit (in this bet)
fractal: Anduck: Which means there needs to be
a 400Gh unit delivered that provides 400Gh in
a single 'DEVICE', or 'UNIT' as per language in the bet.... punin has stated that they are shipping additional hardware "(until we have boards and software that delivers 25GH)" --- 16H-cards less then 25Gh means they failed to produce
a 400Gh unit
Anduck: if the _bet_ itself is
a clear thing how it should be understood
Anduck: mircea_popescu: just
a question, how much do the semantics affect the bet outcome?
fractal: Anduck: which means the bet is
a NO.
Anduck: i also do not see it as
a requirement that someone from the 5 confirmed deliveries must have ordered exactly 400 ghash kit
fractal: Anduck: Words are words. No 400Gh miner exists. mircea_popescu stated that one has to be posted to the forums as
a confirmed delivery. the only way this bet can be
a yes at this point is for someone to lie --
Anduck: i chose
a little bad word
Anduck: there never was going to be
a device of 400 ghash???
fractal: Anduck: No, you're wrong, read the bet language.
a 400Gh 'DEVICE' has to exist... as in
a single unit.
Anduck:
a kit promised 25 ghash or 400 ghash
fractal: mircea_popescu: the bitbury architecture is modular -- inside the 400Gh miner case, there is
a M-board with 16 slots on it -- each M-board is only hashing around 20Gh, as per punin's admission. ... therefore the maximum hashrate inside
a single self-contained unit, or device, is 320Gh.
fractal: mircea_popescu: can you fwd
a link for that? nobody on the forums has
a single board above 25Gh.. they're all running around 19-20Gh.
fractal: mircea_popescu: If noone posts evidence of
a 400Gh unit then the bet is
a NO. correct?
fractal: punin has admitted the hardware is falling short on performance, and is shipping additional hardware to make up for it. there is
a lot of discussion on bitbet. If you do the math, -- it makes it imporssible for 400Gh unit to hit specs.
fractal: so, there needs to be at least 5 reports, and one of them has to at least show
a working, self-contained 400Gh unit?
Graet: CoinLenders is
a website that offers (and keeps track of) bitcoin loans, and also offers credit ratings / ID verifications. We also plan on additional features over time.
TradeFortress: Graet, the same way you should think about
a " fictional fantasy stock market simulation" or
a site that "takes no responsibility"
Graet: well since i deposited coins the site has changed to have
a disclaimer about nothing being real and now its
a "demo" not sure what to think/ask atm
fractal: has anyone here recieved
a working 400Gh/sec Bitfury miner?
Rulother: Frankly I couldn't see
a way to truly debate the acquisition without any sort of evidence
TradeFortress: mircea_popescu, ok, I guess I did
a bad job explaining the changes cuz you don't get it
mircea_popescu: guy destroyed the leaked us no fly list, among
a bunch of other stuff. total mole.
mircea_popescu: At
a Chaos Computer Club event in August 2011, Daniel Domscheit-Berg announced its preliminary launch and invited hackers to test the security of the OpenLeaks system, as
a result of which the CCC criticized him for exploiting the good name of the club to promote his OpenLeaks project and expelled him from their club, despite his lack of membership.
pankkake: "I think people are missing the significance of
a 50% div payout. Most people will reinvest it into ACtM and that will give the share price much needed buying pressure and stabilise the stock at
a reasonable level.
ThickAsThieves: is there
a finance term for this specific type of manipulation? where you sell something, then use the same money to buy up your own thing and run the price up and up
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves anyway, it's especially good because it's rare for
a month-old article to compete well with year+ old articles.
pankkake: so housing and investment >+10% yet the rest is much lower. totally not
a bubble
ThickAsThieves: "The terms of coinlenders have changed - there's no longer
a personal guarantee on the loans. As there's no guarantee AND there's no disclosure of assets backing the deposits (and they can be used for speculation not just for safe loans) I'm not certain Coinlenders even meets our investment criteria any more." says Deprived
mircea_popescu: pankkake just as soon as they get
a few BTC together to make one./
pankkake: we need
a bet for active mining too
ThickAsThieves: there was
a huge blackberry video ad in times square when i was there
KRS-1: just released
a new one
mircea_popescu: So Lennay Kekua, T-Bone, and Amina Abdallah Arraf al Omari walk into
a bar and the bartender says, “Nobody is going to get this joke.”
mircea_popescu: i think bitcoins should come with
a copy of Benjamin Graham's books.
gecko_x2: "The core hardware for the mine will be
a 28nm chip from Cointerra. These chips have outstanding specifications when it comes to power consumption and hashing power, which, in turn, means CryptX will be able to keep power and hosting costs at
a minimum. What’s more, the hashing power of the Cointerra 28nm chip is +500 GH/s, which means CryptX will be able to deploy the PETA-MINE
Rawted: that's not loot, thats
a trash bag
VanCleef: heh looks
a lil like denise richards
mircea_popescu: im not paying to watch 200lbs violently & odorously expell
a small child in
a brown color scheme
VanCleef: i'm thinking about doing
a ipo to raise funds to install female toilets at bitcoin conventions, really good investment
mircea_popescu: actually i saw some theorizing that it's really
a girl all along, and i'm just the fake irc personality thereof.
mircea_popescu: they keep asuming scams are real and reality fake. it's
a disease.
mircea_popescu: dude, it's
a sad statement on the castration level in the west that people think someone's going transsexual is about as likely as
a female existing.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: are you kidding? I would tap
a 35 year old over
a 20 year old any day of the week.
VanCleef: you're not like having
a chelsea manning moment or something are you?
mod6: this is like
a meme now
gecko_x2: what is the difference between
a trilema and
a dilema?
mod6: that was
a pretty good idea. thought about re-adding it
mircea_popescu: pankkake i had added
a random number at end for the case where people do one of thiose
pankkake: also can't tweet the same thing twice in
a row
kleeck: I'd like to thank ArcticWolf for the .gif idea. Also Yifu, for the fuckin' best quote I've read in
a long time.
kleeck: Well. I might just get to buy at
a discount ON btct.
mircea_popescu: Rulother it varies considerably,
a few thousand at the low end
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 for some reason it has failed in such
a manner you can't just dump
a hdd in the raid hotswap and repropagate
Rulother: how many visitors do you usually get
a day?
KRS-1:
a wise man is one with backups