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mircea_popescu: i don't
think anyone actually understands stupid people
phf: but
the
terminology is lacking, so it's not coming out right
phf: mircea_popescu: i was
trying
to describe
the kind of
thinking
that goes into
the "linux on desktop" drive
mircea_popescu: phf i'm not even sure what proper
tools
to
talk about
this in. so basically, you're discussing a sort of "nothing happened" for
the mouthbreather population ?
mircea_popescu: whole
thing's incredibly stupid. fuck you if i'm going
to pay a red cent
to
the "state budget". once i make a factory, it'll assemble its own
tanks and fucking shoot
the lot of
them derps.
phf: there's a "mail client" which is a modality, can be inline, can be a popup, as long as everything's kept in same modality. "now i interact with electronic mail, what pray is
this pdf document??"
mircea_popescu: but
this is a deeply broken manner of
thinking about
terminals, as if one's forever stuck on ONE
mircea_popescu: is
the mail client inlined in
the... syslog ? or what ?
phf: no, no, not mine, i explicitly use "in" as a windowism, because it's a
thinking
thing
mircea_popescu: this "in
the X" windows user concept always baffled me. nigga,
these are pieces of paper,
they don't have anyting IN
them.
mircea_popescu: well no, cuz you left me in
the dark here. wut is being discussed!
mircea_popescu: if i awk | sed | grep do i read stuff "right in
the grep" or "right in
the awk" ?
phf: i guess
the
two are in lockstep. you get pdf in your email, you save it
to file, you open it with xpdf. a dwim equivalent is
to open it, dwiw style, right in
the mail client. can't do
that with xpdf (actually you can but need
to read specs for x11, yawn), so make xpdf into a library, embed
the whole
thing into client.
phf: but i
think
the library problem is separate from dwim problem, where retards find all
these levers, and go "oh i can rube goldber level 1
to lever 12 so
that, but i'm missing an
http client library
to do
this so i'm just going
to bring in libweb and everything will be peachy keen"
phf: i knew
that one would
trigger you. i just discovered it few months ago, was so upset i stopped using
that gentoo laptop
phf: which you see all over
the linux ecosystem. xpdf was
taken out
the backyard and shot
to be replaced by libpopper which pulls 10 libraries etc.
mircea_popescu: how exactly does unix force someone
to write code
that allocates heap on
the basis of what user
tells it
to
mircea_popescu: what's
the sovietism for
this ? when derp gets pass from his job
to do something stupid ?
phf: i
think
these are
two parallel process
though
mircea_popescu: there is absolutely no conceivable reason
the derps responsible for libarchive should have been "taken out of production" in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: phf how does
this relate
to "peasant found himself writing code for library other peasants imported for no reason" ?
phf: kind of goes back
to asciilifeform's laws of computing
phf: when i started using emacs
there was an almost ideological aversion
to DWIM in
the community, instead of having say smart context "search"
thing you'd have a dozen search-foo-in-bar combinations, and
that was
thought
The Right
Thing. emacs has long been dragged in
the dwim direction by
the usual suspects, but
the vogue elsewhere is now dwiw, i.e. do what i want. as explicit/"want" gap gets bigger, you're going
to have all kinds of attack vectors o
Framedragger: "This means
that
to overflow
the "unpack_streams" variable we need only have a 7-Zip file with
the number of folders "numFolders" larger
than 42 and
then populate "numUnpackStreams" with sufficient values." heheh
mircea_popescu: "here's my order, here's your order, here's
the court whatever".
Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw lynx is able
to load
the large phuctor pages all proper and stuff :) not
that
this is unexpected, but still nice
to know
that
the server-side stuff is *just fine* for sane clients.
mircea_popescu: fucking schmucks, listen
to
them go. "tmsr defeated our derpy attempt
to bypass bitcoin so
this means we get
to regulate it"
thestringpuller: In Ether Huffing news >> "People need
to understand
this. Your individual ideological beliefs on blockchain
tech need
to
take a backseat
to pragmatism. If we don't reverse all of
this, cleanly and quickly,
the government will step in and complicate all of our lives indefinitely." "Oh, and for
the non-ETH holders coming here for
the drama -
this will affect your coin
too. If you
think
that
the SEC will make a distinction between BTC or
mircea_popescu: so really, either iB or outright
TRB will have
to have an auth layer for nodes.
mircea_popescu: there's really no conceivable reason
to have unauthenticating nodes in
the first place.
trinque: asciilifeform: how far are we from
the glorious c-s future?
mircea_popescu: it's a pretty dumb solution
to a gossipd problem, so only if it's very little work
mircea_popescu: as well as
to
the fortune
teller who importantly prophesizes "things will occur and phenomena will happen"
mircea_popescu: both
to
the helicopter mom
that importantly recommends you "be careful" (bitch - be careful IS ALWAUYS
TRANSITIVE. if you don't specify
the object i'ma slap you)
mircea_popescu: mno,
that's not
the right equivalency.
the right equivalency is "you could just as well say dangerous day" means nothing.
mircea_popescu: i am familiar with "a dime", which simply means "perfect", which doesn't denote anything but
thjat's ok.
mircea_popescu: while
the other derps are seriously prepending
tags,
to alter syntax ? HB 9.5 ?
ascii_deadfiber: btw
this is not some oddity, but wholly standard, in usa you can say 'a 7' and every bloke
thinks he knows what is meant
mircea_popescu: this incidentally is a very interesting, at least
to me, comment on
the problems of code-in-society. because omfg, you're going
to have implicit mark-up, really ? you gotta know what joke index <1k means ?
mircea_popescu: you know
that joke about
the nuts at
the sanitarium saying numbers and laughing ?
mircea_popescu: but no, it
turns out
that it stands for "Hot Body", as a sort of you know, scoring systems.
ascii_deadfiber: ah i
thought 'hb' was reference
to a
type of pencil sold in usa
hanbot: mircea_popescu
they prolly shaved
their best pencils for
that coffee. lapices ain't cheap!
mircea_popescu: i BET YOU
that it's some sort of derpy "co-op" "al costo".
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber i could have sat
there for a week, free. most of
them do.
mircea_popescu: but
they fucking charge
them what rich people pay for
the world's best coffee.
mircea_popescu: how
THE FUCK do
they get away with it. i mean,
they still give
the bums
the sort of stuff bums misrepresenting
tghemselves as "students" and "With potential!" get all over
the world
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yet it
tasted like exactly what it should have
tasted, which is
to say week old army coffee.
mircea_popescu: they wanted
THIRTY EIGHT PESOS for
the
thing.
this is as much as it costs in
the poshiest cafe i go
to.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i had a cup of coffee in
the food court
there. i was
the only guy
that bought coffee, everyone else was
too busy with utterly revolting meat patties in wonderbread (SUCH an insult in argentina,
this,
that
they'd eat
the us crap) and fructose syrup drinks.
mircea_popescu: also, most of
their proposals are "bla bla with materiales al costo", ie,
they want
to be supplied cheaper cardboard
to fuck around with while sitting on
the pavement like
the bums
that
they are.
ascii_deadfiber: could if went
to beat-me-with-a-stick club and beaten until learned.
mircea_popescu: dude gtfo.
these kids couldn't
thread a wire if it saved
them from bilateral amputation.
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber
that is
the site of
the student political groups in
the Etsy University of Buenos Aires.