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ThickAsThieves: yes but if you get vendors accepting, you start creating a closed loop
nubbins`: well yeah, you're just moving it up a level
nubbins`: y'know, the shitty thing about being a business that accepts bitcoin is that none of my suppliers accept it
ThickAsThieves: so it's possible the list is a lil wrong
mircea_popescu: <dexX7> what would you do if a buyer contacts you in 1-2 weeks and tells you that he had no clue? <<< point him to bitbet faq ?
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> Hendry added equity market fundamentals do not matter << he has a point, if perhaps sorely misstated.
dexX7: time for a new category like "digital coins"
nubbins`: and if he feels he's been wronged, to open a dispute claim
dexX7: what would you do if a buyer contacts you in 1-2 weeks and tells you that he had no clue?
nubbins`: 2013 0.5 btc brass casascius round that has a bitcoin logo on it - REDEEMED
nubbins`: and i have, in fact, had a few people cancel their bids
nubbins`: a full one-third of the three-line description is in bright red
dexX7: "it's a bitcoin, i want it"
nubbins`: gotta draw the line somewhere, otherwise you end up having your description read "DO NOT heat this coin with a blowtorch for a half hour and lay it on the tip of your penis" etc
chaang-noi: redeemed is a tricky word
nubbins`: good for the guy who was buying redeemed coins hand-over-fist on the forums a few months back
ThickAsThieves: so it's just a piece of imprinted brass?
mike_c: the ceo spent 14 years as a lecturer. no tenure for him!
ThickAsThieves: but one guy has two first names AND a suit
mike_c: one of them has a suit and tie on. i'm sold.
mike_c: havelock has strange meanings for a lot of terms
mike_c: of course, it's a fund, not a company. perfect sense.
ThickAsThieves: Havelock calls everything a Fund
ThickAsThieves: cuz idiots may claim they thought it would be a real wall st IPO or such
ThickAsThieves: its a legal thing
ThickAsThieves: they call it a IPFO
ThickAsThieves: would be nice to have a gameplay vid or more cogent explanation of what it is
nubbins`: When real money for digital goods with no return loses its shine, a skill based market place where players accumulate fame and fortune stands a chance of being a real success.
ThickAsThieves: "Lawn also claims KnC customers already create 70% of the bitcoins mined in a day. We can't verify that claim."
ThickAsThieves: Hendry added equity market fundamentals do not matter at a time when policy is misaligned, emphasising instead the ‘feedback loops’ created by US quantitative easing.
ThickAsThieves: "One of them is that consumers yield and submit, Bitcoin goes to somewhere in the thousand dollars per range and there’s a rush to move society away from the dysfunctional standard. Banks start taking Bitcoin deposits, Bitcoin hedge funds pop up everywhere..."
mircea_popescu: teh ppl be figuring it out a year later, and after the fact.
ThickAsThieves: "The increasing cost of relaying transactions may end up making the currency too expensive to manage outside of a small group of users. "
ThickAsThieves: and hire a copy editor too
ThickAsThieves: i debated writing it all up and doing a kickstarter, but i truly wnat nothing to do with running a search co
ThickAsThieves: i have a google killer idea i dont have the means to implement
mircea_popescu: http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atrilema.com+epifania&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1 << and on a proxy too.
dexX7: you want to have a lot of fast accessible memory
mircea_popescu: a, the ram issue.
mircea_popescu: cause nobody wrote a proper chip yet ?
dexX7: i bought some gpus, but i somehow feel like a sucker, because now is probably the best time to resell that stuff.. maybe i'll even do likewise before it arrives. a 7950 on ebay is worth 250-300+ eur here :D
ThickAsThieves: hoping this was a burst
ThickAsThieves: 1PH is a lot to add
mircea_popescu: anyway, the chances to find the actual nethash within an arbitrary precision are a function of that precision.
pankkake: hats are often a tool of imposters
mircea_popescu: a nm, it actually is included
pankkake: reddit common beliefs: 1) we are a nice community 2) academia teaches you everything you need 3) fedoras are cool
Diablo-D3: as long as they treat their partner with a respect and be part of the community and, well, not have AIDS
Diablo-D3: truffles: if you want to participate in the comedy, you need to learn when someone is trying to setup a joke
Diablo-D3: truffles: boobs and a vagina.
ThickAsThieves: "Neoteny is not necessarily limited to physical features however. Currently, a large minority with perhaps a view of soon becoming majority of English speaking adults exhibit psychological neoteny, the sad state wherein their body has long reached maturity while their mind is still continuing adolescence"
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: Einstein was a very smart man, hes very underappreciated
Diablo-D3: I believe God is a scientist.
ThickAsThieves: atheism is too narrow a term
mircea_popescu: anyway, nobody has to be a slave. it's a voluntary arrangement, and it has its advantages. chief among which that you're about 10x as quick to learn as a slave.
Diablo-D3: I mean, if he actually HAS bought slaves, I know a guy at interpol
Diablo-D3: whips, being tied up, getting brutally fucked, being kept in a cage when not in use, that sort of thing
mircea_popescu: truffles whoi has to be a slave ?
Diablo-D3: he just has (well, says he has) a collection of women that like to be used and abused
TomServo: Hearing about his slaves is a LOT more interesting that your paleo diet. Just sayin'.
Diablo-D3: I cashed out quite a few into dollars
ThickAsThieves: lol i'm reading a local article about city gov not paying its "futures" to the electric co
pankkake: "Through fixing this outstanding issue with BitFunder/WeExchange it will be a good thing for Neo & Bee and the Bitcoin community as a whole." :|
mike_c: so it's basically a wager on "this bet will be popular"
mike_c: if a lot of money comes in both sides it works out. if it goes heavily slanted one way the whole time, not so much.
mike_c: when more money comes in late, at a low weight, you make money.
mike_c: you get a bunch of money in early, at a high weight.
mike_c: somebody caught on to the trick. dump a bunch of money in early and kill the late guys. a good move.
mike_c: hm, interesting. a week ago the btc/usd 7 day volatility was the highest its been since August 2011
KRS|gotyawallet: one thing i have found is that there are A LOT of local rap artists with A LOT of talent and good songs
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asciilifeform: "We shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing, by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium."
mircea_popescu: nobody can be bothered to give her a good lashing and put her to work, because this is more skilled and valuable attention than she "deserves".
mircea_popescu: the way the capitalist democracy works is that she gets the bare minimum to survive, much like a cow in one of the insalubrous farms they invented.
KRS|gotyawallet: how so? in a capitalist society she wouldnt be given anything, she would have to do something in order to survive ie: make herself useful
mircea_popescu: but this doesn't happen where she lives. why not ? because nobody gives a shit.
mircea_popescu: she'd come back a marrigeable, useful and generally sane and adult woman.
mircea_popescu: now, if amy got to spend a few years on a mexican farm among mexican people who'd put her lazy ass to work rather than ask her about her feelings
KRS|gotyawallet: he lives in a VERY different system although he doesn't even live that far away from where i do
mircea_popescu: also unlike amy, he doesn't vote. he lives in a different system, which both explains him and makes sense to him.
Vexual: its a one man fuckin union
KRS|gotyawallet: i pay him moar because he works hard, is reliable and very trustworthy..i pay him his equivallent rate as a documented worker.
KRS|gotyawallet: i have a mexican i pay $100 for a day of labour on my property..usually twice a month..he normally makes $80 and works longer in on the farms picking vegetables.
Vexual: labour is a free market, if you've got skills or whathaveyou, ask the price
Vexual: they dont camp there for more than a night, let alone dig the shit up
KRS|gotyawallet: Vexual this is a serious issue
KRS|gotyawallet: I was just having trouble understanding the worth of labour as it applies to democracy, which is more suited for a discussion about capitalism.
asciilifeform: nobody's a zero, everyone a hero there.
Vexual: and a phd in some bullshit noone wants to read flags you as a kneeler
mircea_popescu: in fact she may well be worth zero. that's an achievement, for a live human.
mircea_popescu: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/12/millennial_narcissism_helicopter_parents_are_college_students_bigger_problem.html < take that as a convenient example.
KRS|gotyawallet: On one hand we are talking about value, as it applies to labour which probably applies better to the context of capitalism and on the other hand we're applying that toward a democracy which doesnt necessarily recognize value, but rather mob rule.
mircea_popescu: these all include two things : adversative education, which is to say education done forcibly, without bothering with the consent of the educated, and political power. neither exist in a democracy, thus reducing the youth to this situation of neoteny.
mircea_popescu: the process through which the antique adolescens solidified into vir, ie, a man, is the typical increase in value. it includes such experience as killing others, and being responsible for the self in new situations and so on.
mircea_popescu: KRS|gotyawallet no, i mean put them in a position where their abilities and knowledge actually improve so that they are objectively worth more.
Vexual: but theres a few unions that will dissappear a politician
KRS|gotyawallet: whre its illegal in a democracy to improve the capital value of labour? You mean pay a man more than a woman for certain types of jobs?
asciilifeform: well in 'democracy' a polizei will bite you on the arse if you employ the unskilled fellow for the wage he's worth.
Vexual: if you bump your head on the scaffold of a construction site, you havent much hoipoe
Vexual: we all must work within a framework