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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I understand your desire to construct a defense, but look. I just took apart and reassembled a hand stack of machines to get two photos at your request. You introduced a potential competing claim to title on some of the FUCKGOATS, which I will investigate as I must. However the count and all the photos in the world don't mean shit if you sign off on a S.NSA closing inventory that includes items other folks hold the title
asciilifeform: ( pet (who ate 100% log) to a: 'so, finally '38, he declared you a враг народа, eh' ; a:'aha. i expect transport crate that fits you will be showing up soon; as you know, mp claims ownership of all gurlz, yer gettin' repossessed' p : 'lol' )
asciilifeform: if asciilifeform is 'thief', then what he 'stole' is , i suppose, republic's tech stack. and 'stole' via same mechanism that mp 'steals' gurlz from castratos, i.e. by simply showing up. it aint my fault that asciilifeform's left hand flew circles around errybody else's collective pairs of hands historically.
asciilifeform: while mp_en_viaje prolly intends to try an' paint asciilifeform as a thief, on top of charlatan, i've no intention of making ~that~ job easy for him.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma put this in the signed statement, but 2 of the fg here belong, presently, to piz. the rest (in fact factory tailings that were never on the official books) -- to mp. and ideally he'll say where he wants'em mailed, when properly proclaims liquidation.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I removed those during the count as trinque has made it clear that he has little interest in the future of that chassis. I am also now going to have to put statement and not archaeology on the to do list to sort out wtf is going on with that, because it does affect the meaning of the count.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Alright, I'll open up the S.MG boxes while I'm at it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma post a similar photocatalogue later today of the small inventory here. and sign the text description.
asciilifeform: trinque i rec to print out this log and reread it at your own tribunal. which will come ifnot this april, then next april, or whenever mp_en_viaje decides to rip off yer epaulettes for not coming up with 'biz plan' where you live on threepence/day to rewrite deedbot in php.
BingoBoingo: I can't expect myself to shift right away into great fiction writing. Blog's for stretching the braincase.
mp_en_viaje: bimbo (who watched walk of shame with us yesterday, and was very miffed at the whole premise -- "that dumb bitch, they even speak her language!" ; as one who has spent days exactly in the manner there depicted but in rando orclands, she's quite entitled to the pov) : "so... umm... i published an article... it's not very good..."
asciilifeform: trinque: why would i bother to expand, if 'had contempt' ? i entirely respect the l1. which is why would like a proper, well-reasoned bullet from each remaining lord.
asciilifeform: again w/ the psychobabbles. as if i've any need to 'excuses'. i'm speaking strictly to spell out the logical implications of what mp_en_viaje said, for the thick. ( and incidentally i dun disagree w/ him, if you want to be rid not only of asciilifeform but of his ghost, you gotta rewrite it all in php, cpp, on microshit... )
trinque: if I don't get it done, it'll have been me, and not daddy having been mean... whereas.
asciilifeform: trinque: if you like. ( this, i learned from the master. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 10:15:42 mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,
diana_coman: asciilifeform: so I gather you are dissapointed there isn't one; fine.
diana_coman: I am fine to answer for my own sig on what I signed.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i aint interested in a 'hiding place', but a proper firing squad. in case wasn't clear.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: rright, folx going about not only using vtron, but teaching entire university course on it, while ignoring the basic logical consistency of 'i signed, i am equally responsible' aint none of my concern, aite.
asciilifeform: same goes for the trb users. (wai they not 'went over with comb' ~before~ ? it's what signing means. 'i understand what i'm signing.' )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you in fact read & signed the patches of all items i touched that were put to use in smg. so per mp_en_viaje's philosophy, that makes you equal to the orig author. if the item you signed indeed was product of artful sabotage, you an' i are equally answerable .
asciilifeform: i fully expect that the folx for whom turd turns to sausage when it is decreed from throne in 100% grammatical latin, will carry on their php rewrites, cpp rewrites, etc. w/out skipping a beat. i have nfi what they even went to 'reflect' about.
mp_en_viaje: i sit here watching the redancing of a dance you danced coupla years ago, knowing full well you'll come full circle from this, as from all other positions. it's...
asciilifeform: if possible i'd like to collect all the due -10 bullets from the firing squad which 'went to reflect' 1st. but this is purely asciilifeform's aesthetic pref, obv. not necessarily will be followed. 'let those w/out sin throw 1st stone.'
asciilifeform: this is spelled out in asciilifeform's resignation, which ( as mp_en_viaje 'can't be arsed to larp!11' ) i'ma drop into deedbot when the tx clears and BB returns photos etc.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: actually i disagree that it's unpleasant. i fully expected you'd stall for weeks. but much better to have the firing squad when ready, and not when 'weeks of reflection', this is sumthing i think sovok got right
mp_en_viaje: all), i'll forego quoting anything ; but cliffnotes instead of likbez, comrade Vyshinsky was a very peculiar sort of MC.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, looky, i get it, it's unpleasant to wake up in the morning and read today's log. it can't be helped ; moreover, you built it, systematically an' carefully, by your very own self, an' against the opinion, advice an' as close to knock upside your dumb head as anyone managed. what can you ask of people, that they fly over and literally beat you into sense ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:31:45 mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's intentional, in the sense that i don't think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform for instance is aboutta put'em back into production. ( mp_en_viaje asked to repossess whole current stock, which he'll get, when posts where he wants'em to go ; and so happens that i'ma need new ones. )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948771 << the 6mo i spent in '15 figuring out how to perma-remove poettering from gentoo, apparently not count. ( tho, for consistency: gentoo per se is , turns out, hypnotic scam perpetrated by asciilifeform , there's a perfectly fine!111 os you can buy from redmond, no evil craftsmen required to maintain )
asciilifeform: personally i recommend replacement article 'asclepius'. (like 'bering straight' went instead of beria.)
asciilifeform: indeed i expect mp_en_viaje is very busy nao, what with mailing out razor blades an' page #s where asciilifeform has to be cut outta the great soviet encyclopaedia.
mp_en_viaje: i got actual shit to do dude, go larp somewhere else.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i can't resist to ask, why did mp_en_viaje not yet accept asciilifeform's resignation ?
asciilifeform: i dun even grasp, mp_en_viaje , why mp_en_viaje et al are in 'omfg wat-do' mode. the Right Thing to do , per mp_en_viaje's handbook, and all written tradition, is ~exactly~ this.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:40:58 diana_coman: poisoned offerings, if I understand you correctly.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:22:55 mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don't even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much
asciilifeform: so, it happens that i agree 100% with mp_en_viaje's 'wat-do' -- yes, throw out the poisoned offerings. all of'em. go to stone age circa 2013, remake yer tech stack w/ own steam ( and remember to properly steal the asciilifeform creations you can't actually do without, pick a designated aryan to assign credit. )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dun have kilometre of buffer, maybe half dozen moar. ( atm waiting for walletron refill tx to get mined so i can settle invoice , and BingoBoingo to post photos for final manifest. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:24:17 mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:38:52 mp_en_viaje: i am saying, qutie plainly, that the man's allegiance is to the inca state, through the intermediate avenue of staqu quo preservation. again, not intentionally, but intention dun enter into any of it.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, i'm actually paying to have the logger fixed, get the ass-sucking dependency he baked in there as an idiot taken out.
mp_en_viaje: i expect.
mp_en_viaje: what can i tell you.
hanbot_abroad: mp_en_viaje: i would expect interaction with the republic at all and certainly immersion in l1/frequent discussions with you would cause a great deal of reflection on and revision of held beliefs/paradigms, and sure, even frequently, or many times over. it's a shame that there even exists a specific pattern that'd make this rot, rather than revision. but i guess same can be said about any decay process.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I'm surprisingly calm and collected but I'm weighing all sorts; and yes, I would rather give it a few days.
mp_en_viaje: anyways ; i suspect now you're adequately impregnated with my wrath, i guess give it a day or two see what the night mind dredges up ?
diana_coman: poisoned offerings, if I understand you correctly.
mp_en_viaje: i don't want to pay the thick end to get the thin end, ever.
mp_en_viaje: i intend to cut as much as possible fo worm off the hook, and i'm rather willing to take zero than any hook.
mp_en_viaje: i am saying, qutie plainly, that the man's allegiance is to the inca state, through the intermediate avenue of staqu quo preservation. again, not intentionally, but intention dun enter into any of it.
mp_en_viaje: i am not for a second saying there's nothing good or useful i nthere.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I suppose there is also the same question applied potentially to the FG and FFA then; but fwiw I digested FFA as well as I could and I still think it is a gem, perhaps a pearl better put: quite the result of successive spinnings/polishings
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i do not know what i want you to do, hence this convo.
mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's intentional, in the sense that i don't think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.
hanbot_abroad: i thought what's here is basically a line drawn in the sand, 'will stand no further than this'.
mp_en_viaje: i will do it, too.
diana_coman: ie I installed it on different amd + 1 intel, fine.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: in hardware terms, the recent tests re deploying server showed at least that we are not married to any specific arch so I'd say that part should not be a problem
mp_en_viaje: they're self-evidently all the same "person", if you can call it that. basically, i'm dealing with the same spam script run wild that's ruined western natural sciences.
mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: over the past few months I had *loads* of precisely thinking re survival given as the whole client+ graphics+EVERYTHING kept growing as work for me to do rather than ever receding so I can get to developing the actual game on server.
mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don't even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much
diana_coman: well, there IS on one hand the FFA gem that has however come after the initial projection that he'll do consulting for smg and so I'll have what to use rather than write eucrypt with the salvaged-mpi (though he salvaged that at least)
diana_coman: I guess so.
diana_coman: at the point with ben_vulpes I admit I couldn't figure out who was really messing up more there, honestly.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 21:11:14 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
mp_en_viaje: then ben_vulpes stepped in, and most of what he heard, for years thence, was "oh, you were so underslept you forgot one bag" ; never "i was such a moron, you had to fly on short notice, i guess ~I~ forgot your bag"
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 02:11 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
diana_coman: the debacle with iron specs? as cited in the time-mgm piece I wrote iirc?
diana_coman: yes, I do.
mp_en_viaje: do you remember that instance i actually forbade your talking to alf ?
mp_en_viaje: i wanna load two events for basis.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: sure, just not fully clear on what there; but I'm all ears
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: now I am
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: in mp-wp bot updates: I've got the search results piece (with the auto-delete-old-results functionality) complete.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: as I previously said in #o, I'm all for xpollination with a qntra-writing course for sure.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i expect to sign the final inventory today, after BingoBoingo cuts my seals and inspects the inside of the 'dulap's.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno how you'd judge the more thoroughly, but...
BingoBoingo: But I do suspect the datacenter space is more thoroughly infected with cancer than the legal space.
BingoBoingo: I will explore both routes
BingoBoingo: The sort of readinging and work required feels like it is more... inside my wheelhouse. Paralegaling can also be done in LATAM where if seem more effective than I'll be anywhere else in the world for at least the first 12-18 months.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Having seen the folks diana_coman is catching in her school house and the issues they have with tight writing, I am inclined to draft an offering for a journalism short course. Maybe I catch some of my own students, maybe I get some referrals from diana_coman and others looking to tighten up the prose of their catches.
diana_coman: the list + timing makes sense to me; I'm still digesting but onth I'd say latest next week is better than letting it drag any longer; while there might be no rush, there is also no gain that I can see in waiting longer than that.
mp_en_viaje: but i propose we carry those in some order later this week / next, post digestion. there's, after all, exactly no more rush nowadays.
mp_en_viaje: with diana_coman as to the future strategy of s.mg (which normally'd belong in eulora, i suppose, but honestly might as well happen here, not like there's any traffic jam or anything) ; and of course with diana_coman hanbot trinque BingoBoingo lobbes spyked bvt ave1 as to what exactly we still want and we can in fact support going forward.
mp_en_viaje: will take some spelunking, but i suspect further unhappy interactions among the tower of shit leading to the result.
mp_en_viaje: i have nfi where it's even set ; god knows the db itself defaults to open.
mp_en_viaje: as it turns out, mp-wp has a ... well, i dunno, i hesitate to call it a bug. it has the following issue : if the publishing of an article (which is itself handled as a http post) gets interrupted for whatever reason (such as the connection dying, the closing packet being waylaid, anything), the article will still be publioshed, partially, ie what made it there ; however because various settings (notably, whether comments etc) ar
mp_en_viaje: bah, and back to the "closed comments" bs i see, wtf. brb gotts fix this
mp_en_viaje: a ? trilema's supposed to be light reading, i must've done something wrong!
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/i-suppose-we-could-call-this-a-state-of-the-sadness-or-other-things/ << Trilema -- I suppose we could call this a State of the Sadness ; or other things
mp_en_viaje: i meant take a pic of the artefact
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 16:04:39 BingoBoingo: Apologies for the delay. I had to step away from the inventorying task to pick up a telegram at the Cowork. Dated Friday 18:16 hours... They want money and they want it on a schedule incompatible with the contract they've breached to hell! This is going to be very fun!
mp_en_viaje: in unrelated news, after week+ of cluelesness i finally comprehended the fucking intended usage of my new cam (as it happens, by watching teeny monkey at work) -- the rabatable viewport IS THERE SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR OWN PICTURE
mp_en_viaje: neways, the rotards are something the fuck else. i had to sick my people on them, because otherwise they have this nominally "passport in 2 weeks, no need of ye olde expediency fees", to be in line with the eu ; but then... waiting lists for the 2 week term to start, stretching like 3 months.
diana_coman: it's a romanian example of applying eu rules I suppose; I guess I'll have to write-it up as it's too surreal, only the old italian-embassy experience beats it.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I went to make child's passport - also a sort of ..european experience!!