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ben_vulpes: "in my bike bag. don't forget
to antibiotic before applying
the glue."
ben_vulpes: two weeks later, cuts herself open on something else, "hey where's
the superglue?"
ben_vulpes: imagine how pointless it is
to attempt
to band-aid a 9-month old's fingers.
ben_vulpes: and
that was
the day i won
the great Battle of Cyanoacrylate
ben_vulpes: child never noticed. lady,
though, did rather quickly, once
the bright red started getting on rugs and
the baby.
trinque checks
to see if I stopped
the
thing when working with mod6
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: semi-relatedly, kiddo sliced his hands open on
the radiator fins of an airconditioner i had lying foolishly within reach
trinque: BingoBoingo: not
the prefered nomenclature!
privkeytones: I can only reach it intermittently for some reason, seems
the DNS address cannot be found..
mircea_popescu: and
there was a quarter mile
traffic jam caused by... senor flocop parking.
BingoBoingo: Thing covered
thanksgiving and christmas all by itself
BingoBoingo: Ah.
The five pounder happened on
the year of a single sweet potato
boolcrap: i dug up a 1lb potato
that was my biggest
BingoBoingo: boolcrap: Maybe you dig up 5 pound sweet potato? Such
things have happened before.
boolcrap: i hope
to actually dig up something amazing from
the garden
boolcrap: hopefully
this one doesnt croak when i
turn VTx on
boolcrap: im actually going
to recover it
today when i install my new motherboard
diana_coman: what can I say: it wouldn't even be
the first
time I saw someone as
the best version
they could be rather
than what
they actually really were
diana_coman: phf, in
that case basically mircea_popescu has a point anyway and
there isn't anywhere
to go otherwise; I read it
to mean what I said above (so no, not
the best etc) - maybe I was just so
tolerant as
to miss
the bullshit entirely
phf: i
think
that if you approach jrrt as literature and worse start applying literary analysis
to it,
then mircea_popescu wins in
the first round. if you start looking for life lessons and values in jrrt books it's a lot of really dodgy shit
phf: diana_coman: perfectly fit for proper and good life as defined by
tolkien, somehow magically fit for all
the necessary
tasks of
the quest. even fighting, like pippin and merry after
they are split from fellowship.
they are literally only unfit for
things
that are bad, and even
there frodo eventually at
the last moment gets corrupted, Let
That Be A Warning
To You All
diana_coman: uhm, what,
the dwarfs are now bad in
there? (I am all open
to seeing
this in any other way - I did not grow up with it or something of
the kind - but I can't say I see
this in
there at all)
thestringpuller: any reason for
the spike in diverse authors? continuing
the
trend would be cool.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hm, as far as I recall
they are not great fighters at all for one
thing
BingoBoingo: Well,
they need
to door
to door
things
that make sense sold
that way like gutters.
mircea_popescu: the only reason
they're not
the best vacuum cleaner door
to door salesmen is
that selling vacuum cleaners door
to door isn't all
that great.
diana_coman: phf, fit for some
tasks, not for all
tasks, no?
mircea_popescu: and no, you can't have a story of arbitrary length ; anything longer
than a novel becomes a sludge of separate stories whether you want
to or not.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman finer, i will wager,
than anything
to be found in
the 50k lop (lines of pablum) here under consideration.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman
take
the story of
the whore who wanted
to fuck
the patriarch. it's a fine story.
phf: if jrrt was just saying "happy in
their own world",
there probably wouldn't be a story. he makes a point
that shire values are best values all
throughout
the books. gandalf does all kinds of scheming in order
to ensure
that it's hobbits specifically
that participate in
the quests, rather
than random guy from
the street, and it's
the kind of values jerome k jerome was making fun of
that somehow make hobbits particularly fit for
task
mircea_popescu: yes fans. every generation has its
thing, orwell
tells
the story of
their infatuation with "a shrophsire lad" (which, for maximal lulz, is actually referenced in, say, a room with a view - old hag actually attempts
to discuss florence in
terms of a sort of shropshire.)
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> really, byzantine fiction (currently known as
the vulgate) is much better. but i don't
think much more of
the people who regard
the bible as "great writing"
than of
the
tolkien fans. <- fans, lol; out of curiosity: an example as
to "much better"?
mircea_popescu: why
the fuck does archive.is shot of bitfines come out blank o.O
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is how it works, now it can be
theirs, so.
mircea_popescu: really, byzantine fiction (currently known as
the vulgate) is much better. but i don't
think much more of
the people who regard
the bible as "great writing"
than of
the
tolkien fans.
diana_coman: I find it actually quite interesting
that it's perceived as saying "britain
the isolated , small, insignifiant by now island actually matters/is mighty/hero/whatevs" when I read it quite
the opposite: as long as
they are happy in
their own world,
they don't matter/contribute nothing/and if
they are not interested in
the world,
the world at some point will be interested in
them - and with a big stick at
that
diana_coman: as
to length
that indeed I can agree it is a big fault of
tolkien - at
times he rambles because apparently he's just
too much in love with
the landscape basically
diana_coman: doesn't mean
they have no responsibility for
the current shit in
the world
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-02#1513051 - it seems
to me
that you are
taking what I said
to mean what you meant; called
to do something and responsible in some way does not mean everybody is
the same/has same effect or some other such nonsense;
the peasant in
the hut won't save
the world no matter what
they do, but
this doesn't mean
they should do nothing/whatever; similarly,
the same peasant may not have "done bad" but
this
☝︎ BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu:
ty,
thing we discussed is nearing publication
BingoBoingo: Fuck, lingering in
this channel and its predecessor since 2013 has really attuned my ability
to smell death even with my pack a day cigarette habit
mircea_popescu: hanbot i was referencing
this with
the baudelaire and whore story. but
then again... absolutely nobody would have guessed as much, i figure, amirite.
mircea_popescu: this might be
the first html document
that starts with a </style>
tag.
mircea_popescu: huxley said
the same
thing.
to his misfortune, he chose
to die
the day
they killed kennedy, and so...
hanbot: scandalous how much bad literature
there is by
this
tolkien
token
then!
mircea_popescu: as i said, we're not about
to dispose of
this matter here and now anywayz.
mircea_popescu: the
thing flew "look,
this
thing almost like in carroll is in
tolkien" "yes but here's deluged in crap" "oh, well
this guy deluges
things in crap" "that he does or
that he doesn't has no bearing on crap and deluging."
mircea_popescu: we're
talking of
tolkien and hgis masteries.
that he
THINKS it's ok
to disregard
the brevity rule does not make it go away.
mircea_popescu: hanbot why would you place ~it in
the actual work~ when it's a response
to a meta-discussion you started with " i don't
think
tolkien had much mastery of economy of words" ?
hanbot: yeah, i'm not sure i can specifically place
this unapplication of rules, emplacement of britannia ruling
the seas in
the actual work
mircea_popescu: it's
the fundamental core of all bad literature, "what if
the rules didn't apply". good literature is
the work of "what if
the rules applied differently", never a case of "let's all pretend britannia rules
the seas."
mircea_popescu: hanbot it's a problem deeper
than mere "economy of words".
mircea_popescu: but
that's light,
the humour of a well fed mob. you recall
the scene of
the poor italian child with a bedridden mother and numerous siblings living in a hole, jumping
to his death ? much more on point.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 17:20 diana_coman: I'll add only
the message
that considered
to be "what
Tolkien had
to say" (even
though he did it
through "not-real-life universe") namely
that all and everyone (yeah,
the ordinary and no,
they are not made anything by gandalf quite pointedly not made anything by him) is in some way responsible /called
to do something when shit hits
the fan;
that is all I guess
a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 16:18 mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know
that medieval "for lack of a nail"
thing ?
hanbot: sure. and no, i don't
think
tolkien had much mastery of economy of words (somehow
this'd seem
to make him less a copywriter? or maybe merely a more monstrous one).
mircea_popescu: but, a blog differs from "a body of literary work" in
this sense,
that it's much more extensive. a blog is "all
the literature i could write", a middle ground between "i did" and "i could have".
mircea_popescu: one of
the shortest
trilema articles, and
tbh getting
tedious about midway.
mircea_popescu: (and yes, faggotry is not merely sexuality, ie, homosexuality. it is also a certain sort of ineptitude.
the man who stutters when addressing a woman is not merely short of
the simple "strip" indication ; but actually a faggot by
this measure.)