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thestringpuller: http://archive.is/wbNAk << i forgot all about that.
thestringpuller: everyone is fucked even if they had insurance
gribble: Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 9580.7606 bitcoins, for a total of 33190089.2632 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 0.0211 seconds
thestringpuller: what was the theft. ~120k
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/bitgo-offers-insurance-the-fdic-way/ << lol came true. now no insurance at all.
BingoBoingo feeling bearish, because what happens when the fuck juice runs out????
asciilifeform: to a muppet, anyone who refuses to participate in the consensual 'reality' is dangerous lunatic.
mircea_popescu: that way, they can be sure they will also never be fit to lick my boots clean, ever.
mircea_popescu: no, instead it's just "silently" erase history and... keep the pretense going.
asciilifeform: then they derp about 'obvious signs of mental illness'
mircea_popescu: they don't go "hey, you know what, MP was right all along, we ARE fucking idiots not fit to lick his boots clean, and will henceforth do just that"
mircea_popescu: and then, THEN, when it comes time to eat the shit they don't gop
mircea_popescu: but no, they know shit and have opinions on matters and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: all these idiots with usagi "insurance".
asciilifeform: y'know, like the tsar who drew a line on the map with a pencil and ordered rail laid just-so
mircea_popescu: quite typical, too, in the elevator example. "i want things to be made to be what i thought they were going to be at no expense to me!"
asciilifeform: i did say! typical work of heathendom.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and quite possibly. if anyone cared to reverse the client, all kinds of marvels may yet become possible.
mircea_popescu: but how the fuck does this work, i can just set my system time and send messages back to 2014 ?
asciilifeform: ask ~them~, not me, why this is necessary.
asciilifeform: when he was in the lift.
asciilifeform: when boss keys in a message, but he is in a lift, so it doesn't post until he comes out, but he wants it pinned to time T
mircea_popescu: who the fuck in management would say anything other than "so buy a proper phone" to employee who was like "i can't call the company"
asciilifeform: the proprietary clients do such things as guaranteed retro-ordering of messages, very frustrating to folks raised on irc, but the folks who have it - expect it.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this leads us to the fundamental tmsr reform. our view is exclusive, "either it works with this or is banned" ; their view is inclusive, "either it works with this or we change the this"
asciilifeform: iirc ben_vulpes eats off this, just for some niche industry somewhere
mircea_popescu: almost like an entry bar. "if you can't get your team irc room together you're all fired"
asciilifeform: eh, supporting the various smart-pnoje clients alone probably employs a whole slave galley
mircea_popescu: seems such a trivially tiny project tho
asciilifeform: it is really 'we want tmsr-like machine but all get got is a pile of usd, let's have whatever much cardboard approximation it buys'
mircea_popescu: so why the fuck would a software house hire eh nevermind.
asciilifeform: why not, thinks luser, put money in the clown head, and eat.
trinque: irc doesn't have emojis and gifs.. would be the "reason"
asciilifeform: because then someone has to sweat, setting up logz, search, bots, etc.
mircea_popescu: so why not just use irc ? i suppose these charge at some point no ?
asciilifeform: is a pretty typical work of heathendom.
asciilifeform: shinohai: it lives in the land of 'aol messenger', microshit outlook, etc.
asciilifeform: https://slack.com << often used by american software co. sorta like irc-cum-logz for the terminally lazy
BingoBoingo: slack seems to just be chat
mircea_popescu still chuckles at the "conference" where the various "captains of industree" were discussing who sleeps on whose floor, because one of them was subletting or bumming out or w/e in some flat in london
asciilifeform: slack is an american vc corp thing
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is everyone in vcland making "chat things" after we started a chat thing is anyone's guess.
asciilifeform: slock is this orc subcontractor that only existed in light of ethertardium
mircea_popescu: i thought the grimy looking tual fellow had... a chat thing ?
asciilifeform: (slack is a chat thing?)
mircea_popescu: wait these are distinct ?
mircea_popescu: so then you'll have a sub inside the sub ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai strangely enough, slack can afford to pay for advertising on pastebin ; can not afford to make the people it defrauded whole.
asciilifeform: whichever payload appropriate for the occasion.
asciilifeform: if yer gonna have a nuke in the thing...
asciilifeform: speaking of '50km monster', i always wondered why not 'intercontinental torpedo'
mircea_popescu: (it should be pointed out that the torpedo also weighs about the same as a year worth of officer)
mircea_popescu: not that anyone needs a 50km range ton-and-a-half monster.
mircea_popescu: and we'll deduct from this the usual alf "golden toilet" premium yes ?
mircea_popescu: the officiall us cost for the mk48 is ~4mn.
mircea_popescu: in ww2 most targets were also not worth an ipad.
asciilifeform: even in ww2, with actual navies, most targets weren't worth a torpedo.
mircea_popescu: a torpedo really is not THAT expensive.
asciilifeform: (aha, and mircea_popescu will say, 'steal 1,001 of them' but then why not also steal ship.)
mircea_popescu: sure, but in the million range. cocaine should afford one.
BingoBoingo: I dunno if thing actually has armament beyond thing next Missouri governor fired at/above lake in most recent ad
mircea_popescu: afaik the tube is actually self-contained. you could just tie it on with chicken wire and will still work.
BingoBoingo: Where to fit torpedos among imaginary missiles, mortars and helicopers is a mystery
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it needs such things as locks and seals. the plywood boats are very spartan affairs, lacking even flush toilet.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Firing torpedos... somehow
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a torpedo tube isn't THAT heavy.
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the sub in question is not the ru diesel thing, but the plywood handcraft items BingoBoingo refers to, their only defense is to motor in the other direction when they notice pursuit. hence wankery re 'stealth' patrol boats etc.
mircea_popescu: literally, anything from ww2 even, should it score a hit in that horrendous lip of nonsense will crack the ship in two and sink it
mircea_popescu: that thing at no point was considered with a torpedo in mind.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: at some point torpedos were imagined
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Rowboats were the Pubic rallying cry though. But yes everything else seems to suggest designed to beat up on plywood narco subs
mircea_popescu: how, 90 degree rotation and plows for the sub with its beak ?
asciilifeform: i have nfi, it perhaps claims to 'engage' even martians, for all i know.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i thought they were for smugglers with subs
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> for perforating uninvited rowboats etc. << Hey rowboats were entire threat model justifying TWO classes of littoral comabt ship
asciilifeform: iirc they were installed after the uss cole incident.
mircea_popescu: the autocannon is the armor equivalent of the roman gladius.
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "a safe distance autocannon" for the love of fuck.
asciilifeform: it's not 'war ship' any more than f-35 is 'war plane'
asciilifeform: strafe defenseless tub? yes! party!
mircea_popescu: so how is it a warship then.
asciilifeform: anyway this is american sop, they don't expect to be fired on by so much as bb gun.
mircea_popescu: where's the "i'd like to not have a wall a foot behind me to reflect all napalm and ricochet on my head"
asciilifeform: where's the shield..?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck emplacement is that, "we trust we will never have to use this under fire ; and ideally - at all" ?
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_gun#/media/File:Chaingun.jpg << so do these fucktards.
mircea_popescu: apparently i need drinks with someone to tell me who to drink with.
mircea_popescu: well, the "inertia locking" thing is kinda useful in theory.
asciilifeform: afaik it worked, but was thrown out because it sheds the one serious plus of revolver (simplicity) but keeps the minus (limited capacity)
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to try lol
covertress waves goodbye to mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: on my planet there is no right->left compositive hangul strange in ascii.
asciilifeform: dafuq was that
asciilifeform: also i would like to buy mircea_popescu's revolver that uses gas to move next round !
asciilifeform: and have 0 individual input on tactic, much less strategy.
asciilifeform: i understand quite well that hearns, boecks, etc. are used and discarded by octopus, like condoms.
mircea_popescu: use the tools shown to bring back head of lizzard in battle ; not the ones that are shiny in the sun.
mircea_popescu: this is how the ethereum humiliation worked ; and why ; and wherefore. and it's how the bitfinex thing played out, for the same reasons.
mircea_popescu: the thing to focus on is the hearer, not the mouth.