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jurov: lol i don't mean such interface. i mean real API which can be a good interface built on
Luke-Jr: I think at least Armory has received a few grants
Luke-Jr: jurov: I'm not sure blindly is correct there.
Luke-Jr: benkay: I don't expect that quantum nonsense to go anywhere that needs my involvement.
jurov: and i don't like they kinda blindly stumble towards "moar easy to use and secure"
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: if you don't like it, fork and maintain it yourself; at least I will support you
ThickAsThieves: i just dont like the concept that the Devs pretty much act as the keepers and drivers of bitcoin software
Luke-Jr: jurov: I'm not sure; at the very least, easy to use and secure
ThickAsThieves: i love that
ThickAsThieves: i'm saying the core devs may have no purpose at all
ThickAsThieves: i dont think you understand what "we" are saying
Luke-Jr: if I am elected, it's New York, Florida, California, Japan, Australia, Venezuela, and wherever Matonis resides
Duffer1: bah i'm tryin to eat wings here, can't have a convo like this with wing sauce all over
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 i can respect that, but seriously... i'm very skeptical.
ThickAsThieves: <dub> they can't think for themselves <<< which why i dont want them voting on btc software features
Duffer1: i care for personal reasons, and I would like to see america not get left bhind
ThickAsThieves: i suppose americans care
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 so what if it does get left in the dark ages ? i mean... who cares. shit happens, countries die all the time.
Duffer1: i believe it's important for such a board to exist for the sole purpose of ensuring america doesn't get left in the dark ages, i see no real value for it to exist for anything else btc related
ThickAsThieves: maybe, i think there is something to what Joerg is trying to say, on that it will be more respected as an international organization if it is diverse,
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I think "American thing" is just Joerg's way of trying to get elected
ThickAsThieves: i'm not versed on the lobbying world, but I suspect reality is the opposite of your vision
Luke-Jr: local groups, on the other hand, have a much better chance. I'd rather bet on them.
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I certainly think funding lobbying groups should be discussed, but just funding them, not controlling them
ThickAsThieves: if BF can be a force to mitigate the fumbling of goverments attempting to regulate bitcoin, then i might support it
ThickAsThieves: i dont think the Foundation should remotely exist in the ways you idealize
mircea_popescu: <Luke-Jr> it can help Bitcoin without trying to run the show <<< look, you know as well as i do the foundation is essentially purposeless, but has been recently re-purposed on the fly so as to give the usg muppets some pleasurable way to waste their time.
Luke-Jr: I'm not saying I have the perfect solution, just that it's too centralised right now
ThickAsThieves: i'm generally of the opinion that, in most situations, the community at large is not qualified to make decisions
Luke-Jr: I want the public to know what decisions are being made by the board, and which members voted for those decisions which way; and to have my votes on the board be something I consult with the community on
ThickAsThieves: i agree
ThickAsThieves: i'm saying the approach is flawed altogether
Luke-Jr: I was thinking perhaps allowing a no-fee membership option\
Luke-Jr: I think it's more practical with a Foundation, than without one.
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I don't think it's at odds with the mission statement, though it could possibly be clarified
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: that's also part of why I think the Foundation should be open to input from people outside of it
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I think it should be perfectly clear what the purpose is, not "fool" anyone
Luke-Jr: no, I consider it a way for people who want to support Bitcoin, to not have to do their own research on how to best spend the money
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I want it to empower others, without telling them how to do things
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: I want to minimise the Foundation's influence as much as possible.
ThickAsThieves: i dont have to like or agree with their plot to acknowledge it
ThickAsThieves: i disagree that i'm the one they'll be influencing, and disagree that they will have no influence of note
dub: I like how he refers to it as 'the foundation community'
pankkake: "Crypto currency will regulate the regulators." I like this guy :p
pankkake: I like Joerg Platzer (the pic, don't know who he is)
ThickAsThieves: i tried to make an account at btc foundation's website, it says i get a confirmation email, but never arrived
mircea_popescu: i would propose you yourself as anecdotal proof that no such bulslhit detector either exists or is available.
dexX7: kakobrekla: well, i'm able to parse bitstamp/btct data into a format that can be imported as historical data into nt, but it would be neat if i could submit trades via ninjatrader
Duffer1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Age but for purposes of my point i consider it: instant free access to a global bullshit detector
dexX7: i think the best would be to look out for other trading softwares. tbh i didn't do much research and nt is cool, but maybe not the best fit for our purposes
pankkake: I'm asking this as I could provide an API bridge, if ninjatrader can deal with one standardized API
Duffer1: i want something like bitcoinwisdom for securities
Duffer1: I'm going to look into ninjatrader, coinflow just doesn't do it for me
Duffer1: i find it shocking that a movement like the tea party could even exist in the INFORMATION age
pankkake: sure, but the actual food recommendations i've seen are pretty stupid
mircea_popescu: KRAMER: Yeah, well I wasn't looking for a long term relationship. I was on TV.
mircea_popescu: KRAMER: Well, I'm not saying that! You know, things are going pretty well for me here. I met a girl...
mircea_popescu: GEORGE: I'd like to hear that.
mircea_popescu: KRAMER: What do you want me to say? That the things haven't worked out the way that I planned? That I'm struggling, barely able to keep my head above water? That L.A. is a cold place even in the middle of the summer? That it's a lonely place even when your stuck in traffic at the Hollywood Freeway? That I'm no better than a screenwriter driving a cab, a starlet turning tricks, a producer in a house he can't afford? Is
ThickAsThieves: "just cuz i'm cold, doesn't mean I want people to think I'm cold." ~obama
ozbot: Obama to Stephanopoulos: I "Welcome" Putin's Involvement | Mediaite
Duffer1: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-stephanopoulos-this-isnt-the-cold-war-i-welcome-putins-involvement/
reeses: I rub it out to naked men when I'm drunk, but I don't play games, smoke, or do dope
mircea_popescu: i read it in some mag, it must be true.
mircea_popescu: "top lies men will tell to your face : 1. I don't play games ; 2. I don't jack off ; 3. I don't drink, smoke or do dope ; 4. I'm not gay"
reeses: I can beat him at normal chess because I have the memory
reeses: well, that same kid and I play chess
reeses: I do play letterpress on the phone when bored
reeses: I don't play games
reeses: I played socrates
reeses: and I'm thinking,"I hate this kid"
reeses: I bought him one of the big arduino kits for his bday in July
dexX7: i only saw it one time with like.. 30 btc blown in the wind
mircea_popescu: i mean, sure some states subsidize domestic power consumption,
dexX7: yeah well, i guess that's the prejudice/false impression i have there
mircea_popescu: so your gen II process is in theory 3x as efficient in power as gen I, but if you get 99% reliability on gen I and 35% on gen II well... gen I is still more bang per watt.
dexX7: i wish i would know more about this stuff
MilkyLep: I hope the design quality outshines the picture quality they like to post
dexX7: i just wanted to say: there are more factors to consider instead of only the transistor size
dexX7: depends. i think there is a wide range between "not profitable" and "profitable", especially you can't pin this down to transistor size
Duffer1: i'm not concerned about that one
MilkyLep: I'm more concerned about LC jumping the "selling 130nm miners" ship to we are now focusing on 55/65 they stated
MilkyLep: Interesting, nothing solid, and hardly provable I imagine. Some coincidences are too timely to ignore - of course we are referring to luck in the grand scheme of bitcoin mining
Duffer1: i wonder what kind of trollnouncement they're going to make the next time they want to pick up more cheap LC shares
dexX7: i don't think so. if you delay the broadcast, you run into the risk that another miner publishes the next block
Duffer1: oh i agree
dexX7: you have a point. i usually say "if you spot manipulation, be happy about it and adjust"
MilkyLep: If I had bought some before bed last night Id be happier today tho
MilkyLep: I dont expect this pump to end well
MilkyLep: I would make your btc then step back for a day
dexX7: yes, i think so too
dexX7: due to the volume and constant high volatility it's a dream to trade, but the recent sell-off made me almost crazy, not because i lost (i didn't), but i fear i start to see things, that aren't not necessarily there (i.e. "it's coordinated manipulation") etc. and this makes it way more unpredictable, at least for me
Duffer1: i <3 labcoin
dexX7: haha that must be odd for most, i guess that's one of the first times?
kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/cwTOfIT.jpg
pankkake: I don't know, I might try to do better
pankkake: I struggle with some words and then there's the bad audio quality
mircea_popescu: i mean pre dreamcast, they did that saturn lol
mircea_popescu: reeses i am still surprised they didn't die the fuck out.
mircea_popescu: i mean what the fuck, since the dreamcast 10 years ago what have they done ?