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diametric: I use it pretty much all the time. Most of the people I talk to have an otr capable client so it just automatically initiates a session
ThickAsThieves: i did for a long while
deadweasel: jurov, you launched a coin?
kakobrekla: so luke dash jr is a pony too?
ozbot: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
kakobrekla: choo choo *BAM* in a rock of crack.
r3wt: i'll throw in a dusty crackrock. its kinda old and stale but it'll getcha hi
the20year2: kakobrekla: it was a update on bidding on 3 different properties that we're looking at/conisdering with the IPO cash
kakobrekla: what is a bitcoin-scrypt
the20year2: We just posted a contract update on havelock
deadweasel: that's a fine cork.
ThickAsThieves: tryin to john galt everyone into b-a
kakobrekla: is it a gun?
ThickAsThieves: made a few thousand
ThickAsThieves: i played the waves for a bit, but ended up with cash
FabianB_: Bugpowder: looks like it's missing a 24h avg
ThickAsThieves: one pdf is just a newer version of the other i think
ThickAsThieves: i dont need to make a synopsis, they already did
ThickAsThieves: * As of February 7, 2014, Mt.Gox placed a "pause on all [BTC] withdrawal requests” in addition to a continued "back-log of [USD] withdrawals”. As a result, it is no longer a qualified exchange for the Winkdex calculation.
ThickAsThieves: "Facing legal action, creators of COINY have ended the project and COINYE is now Lost in the World, but may have been nothing more than a Dark Fantasy."
ThickAsThieves: there's even a joke
davout: diametric: the whole point is that no matter the way you put it, banning bitcoin and pretending to be a democracy are mutually exclusive
asciilifeform: contemplating design of btc-related anything while assuming sympathetic (or even grudgingly-cooperative) bureaucrats is like designing tanks and assuming a cooperative enemy.
diametric: Whats the legal definition of a commodity anyway?
davout: no it didn't, like i said, bitcoin is a commodity
davout: or free barter of a commodity
davout: but it has the properties of a commodity
davout: it's used as a currency
davout: case dismissed, a money requires an issuer, a central bank if you will
ThickAsThieves: it's also a currency and a platform
diametric: CiPi: I'm at a loss
ThickAsThieves: it is a commodity
davout: what if i told you bitcoin was a commodity
diametric: "A person shall not issue or put in circulation, as money, anything but the lawful money of the United States." first sentence.
ThickAsThieves: it says a lot more than that
diametric: davout: "Nothing in this section shall prohibit the issuance and use of alternative currency that is redeemable for lawful money of the United States or *that has value based on* the value of lawful money of the United States but a person shall not be required to accept alternative currency."
ThickAsThieves: or if i use a rate convenient to me
ThickAsThieves: what if i charge a service fee to accept bitcoin?
diametric: ThickAsThieves: Its like a sleeper
diametric: ie I want to sell you a $500 phone for BTC. I figure out how much BTC is worth about $500, thats fine. If I decide based on other factors then I wouldn't be.
diametric: but in a community at large, would be easier.
diametric: Theres also a subtle distinction. So long as goods and services sold for bitcoin, calculate their cost in bitcoin based on USD, all is fine.
ThickAsThieves: "A person shall not issue or put in circulation, as money, anything but the lawful money of the United States. Nothing in this section shall prohibit the issuance and use of alternative currency that is redeemable for lawful money of the United States or that has value based on the value of lawful money of the United States but a person shall not be required to accept alternative
diametric: its how a ponzi needs to work. If the ponzi shuts down immediately after it opens, its not really a ponzi, its just an regular scam to steal your money.
diametric: KRS-One: good ponzi's last a while, and actually have ROI for early investors
KRS-One: isnt it safe to say they'd all be a loss
benkay: man that's a risky play
benkay: "GET YER BITCOIN PONZI SCHEMES UP AND RUNNIN BOYS WE GOT A NEW CROP OF SUCKERS IN TOWN"
mike_c: un-squickily. what a word :)
ThickAsThieves: "According to our own internal audit we have never had a 2FA account compromised. We offer a BTC10 reward to anyone that can repeatedly prove that he can hack an account which has 2FA enabled." ~Havelock Investments
Mats_cd03: the20year2: r u cute in a uniform
pankkake: that's what I feared. well, I'll eventually write a lib to explore it anyway
Apocalyptic: you'll probably have to write a custom spider
pankkake: can I have a more detailed answer?
pankkake: is there a way to download the bitcoin-otc wot db?
mike_c: BingoBoingo: is there a btc line-betting sportsbook that isn't a total scam?
asciilifeform: 'grandfather found a grenade in the field. over to the town hall he went. pulled the pin, threw in window. grandpa is old, he doesn't care.'
the20year2: That's why I collect them. There's something fun about handing a 1895 issued rifle to a person and reminding them it's effective to 1,000 yards
the20year2: Buy one without a ton of permits in the US and it's jail time
the20year2: And if you got surplus from ww1, means there's a good chance you have pre-1900 weapons too.
the20year2: And of all ww2 weapons, a great deal were made during ww1,
the20year2: ascii, to a point yes, but the bulk of it was given to USSR client states
mod6: bought my buddy a mauser once, thing bucks like a mule.
the20year2: I'm sure it won't happen like that, but the gun within grabbing ditance, ready to go in my house is a colt AR15, not my AK
asciilifeform: when this is said, i always picture a game-like scene, where a godlike narrator proclaims 'world has ended! choose your small arms'
the20year2: Bending the gas tube would be pretty easy, and could potentially plug the barrel up in a way it wouldn't operate correctly in teh future
asciilifeform: well, a useful barrel
asciilifeform: manual for m16 (downloadable!) actually had a chapter on how to destroy the piece, if capture is imminent - instructed to scatter parts, and bend the barrel by jumping on it...
the20year2: In a life or death situation i'm sure they don't care too much
the20year2: or to damage it by a human being clubbing somoene with it
asciilifeform: it isn't a crowbar
the20year2: It just isn't possible to bend the barrel of a modern firearm
diametric: greenspan_fan: no benefit, any FDM style printer is still going to suffer from a weakness on the layers
the20year2: There's a tube inside the aluminum stock that runs to the end of it
asciilifeform: i always thought this was odd. how do you club a man with a plastic stock
cads: the thing is a piece of crap
greenspan_fan: I am just waiting for a $500 carbon fiber printer to show up on kickstarter
the20year2: My dad was told by quite a few guys they hated their stocks
diametric: that only would last a few runs it would be
cads: I'm not going to lie, 3500 is a figure I pulled from my rear
diametric: the20year2: creating the die would cost a lot more than $700
cads: I think they want to see what a $1000 3d printer can do
cads: and fly out a guy to check the prototype
cads: right now they use a STL machine in italy
cads: it's going to be a ultra tall format print and we're expecting it to fail at least once :P
diametric: the20year2: 3D printing thats a bit high, but for traditional CNC its not.
the20year2: But, as you said if it's a prototype it might make sense to test it before using. Granted I don't undersand how you came to $700 if that fee doesn't include the design work too
kakobrekla: can you also print a laughing stock?
the20year2: Pretty expensive for a gun stock
cads: it's a prototype to testing fit and ergonomics
diametric: print a gun stock?
cads: for now we're negotiating a first job - we're going to print a gun stock for around $700
cads: and possibly a permanent position
cads: the client thinks that it would be a good idea to instead retain my friend for 25 an hour while he helps them set up
cads: he managed not to mention that he has a partner who's loaning him the computronium base of the business
asciilifeform: the bureaucrats got a good deal for that 500. case never went to trial, and so they'll get to pull this shit as many times as they like.
asciilifeform: that cheque has got to be even more valuable then a Knuth one
ThickAsThieves: "are you trying to say the NSA is not a joke?"
diametric: no no no, you invest 10 BTC, and get a monthly 0.1BTC return
VirtaAssets: have a look