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mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'm pretty impressed with
the readership. seriously, 200k words over a week ?
that's like five books.
BingoBoingo: Fanfic will be
the way
to illustrate
the log having been read.
mircea_popescu: ok, fine. hereby is announced a 1 BTC prize for
the best fanfic published on
the blog of someone with a gpg key deedbot knows about.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or INVENTION IDEAS!111 << An exhausted James
tenderly holds Elliot's smell hand
to his chest and
tenderly babytalk
to
the appendage he calls Mr. Slippyfist. Elliot calls it
the appendage.
mircea_popescu: other
than for
that curl, i
totally beat apple's watch by like 30 years.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall
the fabled watch i invented as a 3yo ? iirc was in
the log somwehre.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if he could show his wee wee
to people he wouldn't have
the problem in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: the physical world is capped for speed and counted for energy. which is why
the race is always
to
the cheap.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the romans studied
this problem extensively. no, it's not.
triarius rarely wins.
trinque: Framedragger ?
trinque:
thanks :) (i've battled with search in postgres and screwing around with indices etc - but will prolly end up asking for advice at some point, cause, you know, i'm young) << yes, do ask.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously. If he had any potential as a drunk he would have initiated aggression by pissing on people, places, and
things
BingoBoingo: "We somehow weren't reading
the same
text or somesuch, I don't seem
to recall any bullying going on at
Taft. Elliot is hereby docked one bullying claim." << Similarly he referred
to his ass kicking as bullying when it was merely
the result of little bitch drinking above his station.
BingoBoingo: "Well,
technically, he might also be selling it
to pay for
the next keger where rando drunkards will act beligerently for no reason and generally lose
their shit." << More probably it sits safely on
the mantle of
the party house as a
trophy
though
the drunkards who keep it have no idea how much
trophy it is
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. which is why "terorrism", ie, blowing
them up is
the only way. in elliot
terms, "they brought it upon
themselves".
mircea_popescu: Framedragger and have your friend read
the log, presuming it's not just AFTNM. who knows, .lt anarchists get
teh point afore others.
Framedragger: (gotta write
that bot soon. which set of characters should
trigger it btw, mircea_popescu ? shinohai uses / would use !~ as i see)
mircea_popescu: so : stop looking where
the hand points, start looking at
the hand's sleeves.
mircea_popescu: note
that much like
the elections,
the bribes
themselves are a null value : yeah
the average american is
too fucked up in
the head
to bribe
traffic cops. yet both in america and in india,
the same % of gdp
travels as bribes for
traffic cops. except in india it is personal ; whereas
the us derps JUST
TAKE YOUR CASH.
mircea_popescu: what you';re stuck doing in
those places is what happened
to eg poor lawsky, and others : you are stuck proving
to
the
tools
that
their state can't protect
them. which is why
the mexican cartels spent a while beheading "high ranking police officials".
mircea_popescu: the behaviour is universally called "corruption" in
the state-owned press. because
they loathe it. but whenever you close an economic circle with
the
tools of
the state against or in spite of
the state, you win. which is why i always bribe
trafic cops, and don't even live in places where people generally don't.
mircea_popescu: therefore actual anarchism, in
the sense of "anti-statism" is exactly not what you do (ie, act in
the direction and on
the rails
the state provides
to you for its own purposes), but exactly
the opposite : insulate
the instruments from
the alleged power center.
mircea_popescu: n and hang
the lizards by
their guts one day. which
they know - from bitter experience,
this has happened before.
mircea_popescu: what
the state always
tries is
to leverage
the impredictability of you
to befear its instruments. hence all
the charade of "elections".
they're not
there for YOU
to do anything.
they're
there because a) you're
the sort of idiots who would
think
they're doing something when in fact you're brownian-motioning around and b)
this sickening display strikes fear in
the hearts of
the pretorian guard. who could otherwise easily walk i
mircea_popescu: and finally : your acts as described build
towards
that future. you HELPED
the state gain larger control over
the cops at
that small preceinct. because now, whenever
the state compes up with some dumb shit,
the middle cop will be "we ain't gonna do
this are we ?" and
the older cop,
thinking of you sad lot, will say "yeah we gotta, otherwise
there'll be some ipad kids in here complaining".
mircea_popescu: moreover,
the neighbours do not come
to punch people in
the street because
they have work
to do. raising a militia was expensive even in 1700.
today it's very fucking expensive. hence
the police, ie, standing militia.
mircea_popescu: the notion
that "x precondition would make violence less relevant" is exactly equivalent
to saying "if we had more pious women we'd have less need
to defer
to fucking"
Framedragger: besides,
the cops as force decoupled from very shitty state !=
the cops as
they currently exist. i don't
trust
the fucking state
to manage
them, and next
time i write about how shit it is i don't want
to expect a buncha
these dudes
to break in and "teach me a lesson in being putin spy by criticizing our great country".
Framedragger:
the drunk dude would have
tried
to swing back, and neighbours would have come
to help, and punch
the
thief. i do of course realize (or so i
think)
the *vast* naivete of
this kind of frame of mind, but note
that
this is possible in some specific communities which
take a piss on "global awareness projectz" and just function on a (very) limited geographical scale.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: regarding first strand, no objection, in principle.
that is, encouraging submission in itself my breed larger problems and usg-like structures. regarding latter, yeah i have a problem with cops as such. knowing
that
this will only solidify my "wannabe naive anarchist kid" image, i should point out
that if we had a more responsible, (actually) individualist and conscious populace,
there would be less need
to defer violence
mircea_popescu: the world is SO unfair, but often enough in practice experience unthinking beats naivite even should it be allied with all
the wit in
the world.
mircea_popescu: you want neither of
these, presumably, so
the right move'd have been
to cheer
the policeman, and insulate him from his boss/derpy kids. ie, what
the drunken guy did.
mircea_popescu: the other is
that it is
the job of
the police
to distribute violence. if you don't let
them beat up
thieves, and cover
them in red
tape,
they'll just get frustrated ;
that frustration will keep boiling and boiling and eventually you'll end up with
the us situation, which is
to say no real cops (a cop is always and everywhere a BEAT cop!
that's police work. naught else.) and a bunch of derps hoping
to be SWAT. and again you ge
mircea_popescu: one
that submission ~shouldn't~ be encouraged. so what if he didn't resist ? fuck him. if you make a difference by "did he resist",
the life lesson you
teach
thieves (ie, everyone poor, which is how
this goes) is
that submission is a valuable
trait.
then you get unfucked women and usg-style government.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "limp penis WITH collapsed" << fck
ty fxd
mircea_popescu: i mean good for you for standing up
to
things and so on ; but in general seems
the effort was misplaced. not like
they killed
the guy.
there are
two important strands :
mircea_popescu: yet
this kid fails at
the fail! he can't even do
the
thing you're not supposed
to be doing because "it's easy, you'll do it later, got better
things
to do now"
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829/from:75/to:75#75 << no, literally, he has absolutely nothing
to do with any academic anything whatsoever. back when i was going
to [high]school it was considered a waste of your
time, fit only for
the marginally retarded,
to spend your
time
tickling
the
tits instead of paying attention in class.
mircea_popescu: apparently
the most expensive
thing in
this world is a brain.
mircea_popescu: (also, amusingly enough,
the judge wore a british garb, and
the withdrawing delegate made a speech replete with angloisms. really, it is japan's purpose
to "contribute
to human welfare" ? as london defines it ? idiots.)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: "Here" being
the good 'ol USG and it's
tentacles. Isn't
the pop culture start up nothing but pump and dump? Founder
talks up a big idea. Gets lots of money for it. Pumps up
the bubble as big as possible
then exits and lets bagholders deal with "profitibility" etc. <<
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-28#1530787 ☝︎ mircea_popescu: as
to first, i don't
think anyone can seriously argue
that present day us has anything
to do with
the historical item
that won ww2. as
to second, now is flexible, 5 years,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so japan is waking up
to
the realities of
the current us posturers being wholly unrelated
to
truman, patton et all ?
Framedragger: trinque:
thanks :) (i've battled with search in postgres and screwing around with indices etc - but will prolly end up asking for advice at some point, cause, you know, i'm young)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yes, very much so, and yes it's just been added
to
todo list...
Framedragger: god damn it. i wanted
to check how limnoria does irc reconnect, and it starts out with a nice SupyReconnectingFactory(ReconnectingClientFactory, drivers.ServersMixin). which doesn't necessarily mean a bad
thing, but is in sharp contrast
to
trinque's short code. lol.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
there's a mp-wp ancient script
thing shinohai was massaging.
Framedragger: does wp *finally* postgres? last i used it i had
to use mysql :/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
trilema uses mysql, of course. but i'm
thinking migrating wp
to postgres may actually be a good idea.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: seconding
that.
the devs seem
to know what
they do,
too (postgres-hackers is a nice ML)
mircea_popescu: let's call
this a de-facto postgres-as-republic-data-exchange-interface rfc.
mircea_popescu: trinque i meant more as a philosophical point
than necessarily in
this implementation.
Framedragger: (scratch
that comment about logbot, it's not supposed
to use it itself)
trinque: Framedragger: when you deploy, disable
the sbcl debugger and put it in runit, a process manager
trinque: mircea_popescu: for all my bot functions, yes.
this is however why ircbot preceeds logbot. ircbot simply establishes and maintains connection, and one can attach
to cl-irc hooks for whatever he wants.
Framedragger: (aha,
the reconnect method gets called in a separate ping
thread, it seems)
Framedragger: trinque: out of curiosity, have you
tested how well ircbot reconnects
to irc? i see
there exists `ircbot-reconnect`. logbot itself only exports
that symbol but does not seem
to use it itself?
Framedragger: aha, a different initial preference, and i see
the danger in
the converse - sure