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bvt: re closing of s.nsa an the related conflict, i will do a post on this (imo irc would be a bad medium for this purpose, at least for me). i can increase the priority of this post if people consider it a pressing matter.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I suspect his putting all of these things on his shoulders has the potential to be his healthiest course of action
mod6: Well, in that case, yes, for now. I'd been pretty far behind on such things. But getting caught up. Only got like 3 more major things to complete. Only two of which will probably get done before spring.
BingoBoingo: Here I see more "ama de casa" used by housekeepers who've had their traditional arrangements fucked to hell by the local commies.
mp_en_viaje: alma = soul, casa = home. how they call a homebody i guess or somesuch. someone whose central pursuits is the maintaining of their home.
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Hmm, not sure if I understand the reference exactly. But yeah, had a whole pile of repairs to do around here. Has been keeping me on my toes since late sept.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: AHA, but I never got into piano. My fingers understand buttons from a Tuba instrument family point of view.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: dunno, fwiw I rather think my previous piano-play xp actually helped a lot re typing-without-injuries.
mp_en_viaje: mats, you know, these retrospective "what have i to show" saddened all sort of great minds to date. pepys' journal is fulla "lost my work / lost my toil" etc.
mod6: e archives. I think going forward we'll either need to get it in working order again, or find something new.
mod6: A bunch of different things: Looking at some options for work for next year, Q1 I think. Working on a whole parade of home-related repairs/upgrades. Following on and trying to help/give advise where I can re: Pizarro. Working on getting some of my blog posts re-posted. Spent a bit of time trying to get the Foundation's ML back working -- since I had a bunch of trouble with that, I've since just posted th
mats: in wow it depended on which class you played, i had arrangements like ctrl+shift+A|S|D|F, ctrl+alt+QWERTY, the dumbest ongoing error i have ever made
mats: i wasnt very good, iirc hovering around top 100 2v2, 3v3 teams on the most competitive server at the time
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Well, like I was saying, the thought never entered my mind before; but figured, I'd better ask and see in case it does.
mp_en_viaje: ah ? i thought it's mostly the elaborate raiding gymnastics that do the player hands in. so... did you ever make the ladders ?
mats: i played 100% pvp, never had any interest in killing mobs for hours
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, i guess my proverbial laziness saved me, i never got into the precision orchestra raid bs. wtf am i, a concert pianist ?
mp_en_viaje: mats, i expect over the past three decades i used computers for upwards of 50k hours. and yes, a good chunk of that was playng, but...
mp_en_viaje: mod6, that's a rather weird way to think about it, don't you find ? wtf am i, the man-eating ogre ? and wtf are you, princess rapunzel, asleeep in a castle, waiting for prince to come wake you up with a kiss / eat your babies, at his options ?
diana_coman: mats: seriously, as aggressive as I might seem to you, maybe read the #ossasepia logs and figure some help out.
mats: i'm embarassed, and i haven't played the game in a decade
diana_coman: there are also exercises and all that but honestly if that's bad I can't consider the keyboard+mouse "fine"
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Thank you for the response. I don't plan on doing anything to get neg-rated. Just having been in the soup, as it were, for some time. Figured, my turn is coming. But I hope I'm wrong about that.
diana_coman: I don't actually know mats' age.
mp_en_viaje: what is he, like in his 30s ? this might be the worst case of carpal i ever heard of, good grief.
mp_en_viaje: mod6, i'm sorry, i don't have the time/patience to follow alf dramaz. re being negrated and mpex function, in general : i've always to date sent people their shit ~before~ negrating them, because indeed the substantive meaning of my negrating you is that you can't use any of mine / my friends' shit anymore. this hasn't prevented the occasional asshole from making the occasional false claims, which situation hasn't much int
mats: ive been at it a while, unsure whether or not to throw in the towel and go back to doing jr mgmt 'cyber' nonsense where i'd be massively overcompensated for my ability
mp_en_viaje: finance is hard, what can i say.
mp_en_viaje: oh i c
diana_coman: ah, hm, that's a point; yes, I think I will (though I do need to write stuff down there, huh).
mp_en_viaje: you gonna bid on the s.nsa auction then ? i really hope it's not gonna be a sad case of crickets.
diana_coman: I can see the overbulky angle.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, other than being perhaps overbulky, i can think of nothing wrong with the item.
diana_coman: but I'd certainly want to hear bvt's thoughts on it.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: fwiw I looked those last days at the fg each and every way I could and I still like it; the only difference is that now I have to figure out some time somewhere and make one with own hands.
mats: i want to assist, and occasionally do so when my limited ability permits, but my primary concern is building my personal wealth and leaving usa
mp_en_viaje: eh, did i miss out on moar dramaz ?
diana_coman: mats: no; I upped you to figure out what you are actually doing since you seemed to have become again active; why does that strike you as aggressive?
mp_en_viaje: i bet.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Right. I expect the statement will be complete and the dispute period won't need anymore time than an auction does. The couple silent absentee customers will get their remaining customer equity pushed into their deedbot wallets. Loading the Feb/March 2018 - September 2019 stretch into the head again to make sure I'm not missing anything has been... a something.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Sorry, still doing the numbers and accompanying log/notes archaeology. Unless I hit a very hard problem I'm probably 12-18 hours away from pushing out a "pre-closing statement" for people to make their claims against, etc.
mp_en_viaje: comments welcome ; as things currently stand i'm thinking a one week auction starting tomorrow is the way to go here.
mp_en_viaje: i'm further thinking this should proceed without reserve, since it's not possible they could sell for the 1.8 paperwork indicates, i can't think of some good way to obtain another value, and besides we want this to not take forever.
mp_en_viaje: i'm thinking the correct move here is to auction the lot (specifically, items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on that list), the buyer to arrange delivery from us and uy at his pleasure.
mp_en_viaje: mkay, so unless i gravely misunderstand something, there do indeed seem to be some items that may be worth something in http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949202 ; namely a coupla opteron boxes and a dozen fgs + coupla more without trims.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, mod6 asciilifeform ^ by above item i'm to take receipt of 0.9 btc from someone there ; what's the status of pizarro liquidation ?
mircea_popescu: spyked, i think he died.
spyked: so far looking at the rss list-of-items as an ordered list sounds like the simplest and cleanest approach, I currently dun see any reason why the blog would change that on reconfigs.
spyked: fter ?p=453 if I've finished writing the former after the latter.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-02 06:22:48 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949252 << i woukldn't even protest if you expected a monotonically increasing guid tbh.
spyked: in other sunday rss epiphanies, I just figured out why this might not work while reading this. long story short, it's (currently) not a rule that articles are published and displayed in the rss feed in the order of postids. wp lets me publish e.g. ?p=398 a
jurov: messing around with common lisp... but nothing finished, i'm hopeless tinkerer
BingoBoingo: Nothing I've associated with the local XY population seems to have the same predictive value for this other than whether or not they are dressed in the traditional manner of the local Vaqueros.
mircea_popescu: as it happens i was just going through the complete works by cosbuc these days
mircea_popescu: "Zici ca de m-ai fi cerut mamei tale nora-n casa, n-as fi vrut sa merg? E, lasa! Ca de-o fata cui-i pasa, nu se ia dupa parut! De-ntrebai, ai fi vazut!"
mircea_popescu: "Si sa-i spui lui maicata ca tu esti femeia mea si de nu vii tu acasa vine Gyuri nu te lasa. Daca nu vii tu in sura scot cutitul din centura!!!" << bolund.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, he threatens to burn down arad.
diana_coman: aha; atm I'm aiming for basic "random article out of all"; let it be in Ro if it falls that way, what's the problem.
mircea_popescu: basicaly it 1. establishes the highest article guid ; 2. it picks a value up to that (with a lot of leverage for criteria, turns out i had a special ro-only thing made by alf's request at some point) and then requests it.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I suspect that's more smarts than highly intelligent.
diana_coman: (and I couldn't find it searching trilema.com and the logs, did I miss it?)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: can I get the random-post-on-landing-page trick that trilema uses? I'm weary of just hacking it into mp-wp atm.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-02 10:17:14 mircea_popescu: i'd go as far as to say that any feed without a guid is ~therefore~ broken, and any software putting out such a thing has to be fixed.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949288 << annd it is through this logline that I realize my RSS feed on my blog is broken in this sense. For some reason, it has been putting the permalink in the guid field instead of the post id. (curiously, this started once I migrated blog to new box). Ugh
BingoBoingo: My youngest brother, not the dentist, is an engineer of the mechanical flavor. Whatever gets other engineers focused on the internals of their computers, it never took with him. Roughly as uninterested to him as the internals of his car. When I started putting together bookshelves back in old country for something to do with my hands, he offered to help.
BingoBoingo: I'm not entirely unsure I don't have or in the past hed a touch of engineer bogging down my head, but not indentifying as an engineer myself... I am unsure what has to break for an engineer to get the resignation, that can build to a faith, that recovery can proceed from.
mircea_popescu: they just say words, devoid of particular notional content. "partnership", aka "that thing where i shit on every hand you extend every which way to sunday & for years, but it's okay because mommy loves me unconditionally"
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I can see that angle.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll give it a thought, but I have low expectations. Also, the other side of the Late 1990's early 2000's Windows verus *nix narrative clicked in my head. The fight wasn't about the merits of any software at all. It was a fuck you to engineers in IT from Management.
mircea_popescu: (exactly the same situation, p to q as a to b, is what i mean)
diana_coman: I don't think it's in the engineering though; more maybe the other way around ie engineering as a result, not as a cause.
mircea_popescu: maybe the way out is rather in the vein of handling addiction, make an Engineers Anonymous, build up a list of tenants, "i understand i have a problem, that i can't fix but i can try to manage, and by the higher power as i understand it ima try" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: i also don't subscribe to anon theories re frontal lobe damage & general degenerescence. yes hoarders show very similarily impaired cognition, but they're ~old~, and old only. "engineers" occur like schizophrenia, in the 30s.
mircea_popescu: i understand the more fashionable neoprotestant theory on the topic requires "i can do anything" as a hard prerequisite, and therefore "personal development" or "growth" is a boundless field of possibility. i'm... well, moderately optimistic on this topic, in the sense that i don't for a second credit such nonsense.
mircea_popescu: minus, i guess, the lsd theory, as the one exception. i'm rather with the classical psychology camp : the fundamental breakage in cognitive development brought into view by the unyielding flow of events was probably definitively formed by age 12 ; developmental delay is sometimes recuperated in later years -- but in the ~early~ later years.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile -- as perhaps the strangest case of sycophants & cut-throats hypnotizing the supposed mastermind in recorded history, it turns out that i... actually agree with ~everything~ everyone else said to asciilifeform (not that it's hard, the various rays being remarkably collimated, there's harmonic agreement the likes of which cultists' dreams are made of).
mircea_popescu: i'd go as far as to say that any feed without a guid is ~therefore~ broken, and any software putting out such a thing has to be fixed.
mircea_popescu: sorta the blockheight of articles, i guess.
mircea_popescu: i'm all for mp-wp rss style only, tbh.
spyked: well, I'll ruminate a bit on the whole thing and write a proposal for the bot spec. should provide a structured starting point at the very least.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-02 06:22:48 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949252 << i woukldn't even protest if you expected a monotonically increasing guid tbh.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949269 <-- hm, I'd keep that distinct from the bot spec (which'd spec bot inputs/outputs and behaviour), but it does bring to light the question of whether feedbot should accept non-mp-wp-style feeds. on one hand I might want to subscribe to heathen feeds on the internets. on the other, the rift is growing anyway (e.g. feedbot doesn't do https), so it's pro
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949252 << i woukldn't even protest if you expected a monotonically increasing guid tbh.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-02 05:17:19 diana_coman: spyked: re bot, I said flaw because I don't think it should spit all entries it hasn't seen before, no; to my mind it should spit all entries *newer* than the *last one* it saw before, simply
mircea_popescu: but i suspect we'll eventually need a good algo because we'll prolly keep running into this problem. it's a first class primitive, to my eye.
mircea_popescu: how to do this, however, is admittedly a very hard problem, and i don't expect a solution has to be found/deployed rightnao.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-02 04:24:16 spyked: fwiw I don't believe this is flaw; the alternative would be for the bot to keep a list of all the items it's ever seen, but then it would be a list of all the items it's seen since the feed was first added to its db, which is an arbitrary cutoff point. wouldn't have prevented this spam anyway, since I've originally added the feed list to feedbot in 2018? and ossasepia's current rss goes all the way to 2017
spyked: anyway, I'll fire up the bot in a few mins and will be around for a while to check whether everything's alright.
diana_coman: spyked: no hurry now and I'd wait anyway for other people to comment on this thread too, first.
spyked: okay, I'll post a spec sometime in the next coupla weeks. guess I didn't post one back in 2018/early 2019 since closest denominator I had was deedbot rss and just used that.
diana_coman: ftr I do enjoy reading otherwise your crisp descriptions there but as they build up, in the end I'll still have to summarise & basically extract a "spec" out of them.
diana_coman: would help to have ...one spec, lol; at least it would help me, what can I say.
spyked: re. spec, I think there was an earlier trilema post on rss, I tried to dig it yesterday but couldn't find it. I think http://thetarpit.org/2019/feedbot-manual is the closest thing to a spec, but it's a spec for commands, not for other behaviours. bot behaviour is otherwise documented in http://thetarpit.org/2019/feedbot-i (and ii and iii in the same series)
diana_coman: (obv, other than if I publish with messed up/changed dates)
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-11-01 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-31#1008349 <-- ftr, I also stumbled upon this: http://thetarpit.org/2019/a-guide-to-systematically-exploring-the-entrails-of-mp-wp-illustrated-using-some-weird-found-in-the-post-editor . wrapping the input field content in htmlentities did the trick for me, but otherwise I thought this is something particular to my environment
spyked: diana_coman, but I did mention it yesterday :D, http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-01#1008386
diana_coman: I'm also rather weary of manual disables and the like because 1. this never scales, it can't 2. now I need to keep a list of things for which to poke spyked to disable my feed if I as much as touch them on my own blog?
diana_coman: spyked: re bot, I said flaw because I don't think it should spit all entries it hasn't seen before, no; to my mind it should spit all entries *newer* than the *last one* it saw before, simply
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-11-01 diana_coman: let me see now if I can in the end identify the various problems proposed:
diana_coman: spyked: oh, I hadn't realised you ran into similar too, didn't quite connect and if you didn't say anything earlier...; so in the end my investigation into this yesterday covered more than I thought, huh.