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mircea_popescu: "A feature
that I liked a lot is
that shell is
the only scripting language in
the default install of
the distribution.
Typically perl and python get pulled in unconditionally as a build dependency of a runtime dependency of some rarely-used default-installed utility, or are directly used
to implement package manager, etc. With Gales, a decision about what scripting language
to use can be made without constraints created
BingoBoingo: rilema/2019-12-23#1956012][instructions for me,] which I also submitted
to deedbot.
mircea_popescu: apparently now
there's
drama about people i don't even recall ever hearing of. i have fiddy
tabs open struggling
to keep up with everyone over here and barely managing... it's like an xmas miracle or something.
mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo what's
the snag now ? your client ran off from under you after paying ?!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 17:35:36
trinque: god damned bootloader being larger
than an entire userland, holy hell.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 12:21:04
trinque: specifically, if you saw fit
to issue a deed for #trinque , I'd happily accept
mircea_popescu: in keeping with
the
theme, "pedoworld reality distortion field" ends up spelled "wiki" in hawaii or some shit.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 09:08:25 hanbot: in other unexpected wins, wikipedia started redirecting my browser
to "mandatory upgrade" sometime last week. of all
the deprecations i've steadfastly watched pass by in my box's moat as it were,
this one is by far
the most satisfying.
mircea_popescu: sorry for
the constant complaints borne out of user error, plox don't
take it
to heart.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 07:29:14 spyked: mircea_popescu: hm, from what I see it only sent
the comments/new feeds since it first saw mircea_popescu offline
mircea_popescu: in
this morn's stray
thoughts : if "wife" ends up spelled "waifu" in japanese, is it
the case "kungfu" really should be "knife" ?
diana_coman: trinque: is
the select
thing not working on your blog? I'm
trying
to select
that great "fits in hand" and I can't seem
to,
this doesn't do anything.
trinque: ftr not saying anything about
the value of
the gales work, above. I
think it's quite valuable, but we'll get
there.
trinque: and I'm not even halfway
to a blinking cursor yet
trinque: and jfw, dorion_road, if you don't see
the word "Gales" in
there, it's because I'm
trying
to disabuse you of
the notion
that
there's such
thing as a "Gales" which you made, by way of sheer numbers.
trinque: god damned bootloader being larger
than an entire userland, holy hell.
trinque: teaser fact: busybox is *half*
the size of grub-2 by LoC
trinque: diana_coman: me
too, actually! enjoying myself over here.
diana_coman: trinque: I'm looking forward
to
that OS-related series.
BingoBoingo: In lulz at
the local/international interface, local police seized some cocaine.
They honestly assessed
the pile at ~1 million USD using
the local wholesale price.
The story moved
to
the international press
today.
The BBC is assessing
the value of
the pile at ~1 billion USD using
their local retail prices.
trinque: and in
that spirit, part 1 of my contribution
to
the OS
thread shall be published
tonight, and so on by days until finished. maybe 4/5 parts.
trinque: specifically, if you saw fit
to issue a deed for #trinque , I'd happily accept
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'm willing
to adapt, and
to use my blog
to do so.
hanbot: in other unexpected wins, wikipedia started redirecting my browser
to "mandatory upgrade" sometime last week. of all
the deprecations i've steadfastly watched pass by in my box's moat as it were,
this one is by far
the most satisfying.
spyked: mircea_popescu: hm, from what I see it only sent
the comments/new feeds since it first saw mircea_popescu offline
mircea_popescu: !Q later
tell spyked yo, feedbot's unwinding
the whole history of comments on
trilema at me fo rsome reason, halp!
mircea_popescu: !Qlater
tell spyked yo, feedbot's unwinding
the whole history of comments on
trilema at me fo rsome reason, halp!
deedbot: 2019/12/16 09:33:35 <spyked>
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954760 <-- certainly looks like a spin on greenspun's rule: any system
that amasses enough complexity (for some values of "enough", at least) becomes a contender for
the "operating system" label. imho emacs, wp, cltrons all fit in
there.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a complaint -- i don't personally mind evil exists, nor do i believe it shouldn't exist or
that its absence would signal any kind of improvement. without evil
the world's boring as fuck, which is why idiots asking dumb questions like "how come an infinitely good god has small children raped
to death" are fucking stupid. evil is a better addition
to
the world
than fucking cinema, it'd be way
too borning
to
try
mircea_popescu: from whence it can further spread -- much like camels who never saw other camels spit don't know how
to spit nor ever spit, while camels who did see other camels spit do know how and actually do it, just so people don't come up with evil naturally,
they just replicate it from having seen it before.
mircea_popescu: and everyone else is stuck somehow reconciling your supposed "great
technical acumen" with your apparent incapacity
to intellectually function enough
to match a age-adequately developed nine year old slut -- which is incidentally how
the elaborate narrative of
the naysayers even evoloved over
time :
the others dealing with
the anal child is how anal childhood even gets implanted in heads in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: in
the end, what you do is hang out with
the other cripples.
that's it,
the loser
table at
the highschool cafeteria, where you
tell each other stories of "how you aren't really geeks", and how one day you'll get
the cheerleader,
the usual fare. making pacts about losing your virginity by end of school...
mircea_popescu: your life becomes a carousel of a) identifying partitions upon
the world
that'll neatly divide it across
the line of "this part exposes my dysfunction" / "this part doesn't expose my dysfunction" (definitionally an impossible
task) and b) making up stories about how it all works out, or will, or whatever.
mircea_popescu: no sucks because... it really doesn't. once you decide you actually "like" your dysfunction, or in any case you're not equal
to its remedial, you're stuck hanging out in #asciilifeform with all
the other cripples.
mircea_popescu: every
time you discover something, you get
the same exact choice, again and again each
time. you get
the same choice
that also happens
to be
the ~only~ meaningful choice you ever get, or ever could possibly get : are you going
to fix it ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-27 08:17:17 mp_en_viaje: neways, your main hope is deconstructing
the supression machine, not
trying
to find it new fields of employ.
mircea_popescu: so listen... while you were away
there's been a lot of progress ongoing in
the republic,
these guys now have blogs and stick
to publishing planning schedules and such wunderbar alien
techs. you gonna catch up with
the group ?
ossabot: Logged on 2018-11-15 11:58:12 mircea_popescu: i'll want
the coin back next year. now go forth and own stupidity no more!
diana_coman: yeah, he
tried
there for higher
than he realised; had a
talk with him on
that.
mp_en_viaje: mwanwhile in other coincidental great
things, i found
the article where (among other great
things, such as early warnings
to beings an engineer) i discuss
the problem of
toddlers and dynamic equilibrium. which, i recall, was wanted and not found at some point somewhat recently -- i just can't anymore find where
that happened.
mp_en_viaje: neways, your main hope is deconstructing
the supression machine, not
trying
to find it new fields of employ.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of asciilifeform from 9
to 1 <<
Tech outputs brilliant when available;
talk outputs and people "evaluations" entirely unreliable.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of Metronix from 2
to 1 << Indonesian ISP; has key, won't use it.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of crowncloud_ from 2
to 1 << Australian ISP with US dc-partner; has key, won't use it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-26 06:08:34 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, imo all
the rest can stay. also imo it is more important
to be right
than principled.
the principles can be written in afterwards, for as long as you're right ; if you're wrong no writ will save you anyway.
trinque: speaking of updating ratings, in reflecting, I've been quite affected by
the year's events as amply evidenced in recent logs.
deedbot: BingoBoingo updated rating of nicoleci from 2
to 5 << Midwestern Escapee, blogs @ bimbo.club
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated nicoleci 2 at 2018/10/29 02:18:13 << Mircea's chattle, summarizer in
training, Outside
the Wire
deedbot: BingoBoingo updated rating of asciilifeform from 10
to 5 << Met in person, have a server in his rack,
time insensitive when airplanes aren't involved
deedbot: BingoBoingo updated rating of hanbot from 3
to 9 << Manticore
deedbot: BingoBoingo updated rating of mircea_popescu from 10
to 9 << Lord of Lords
deedbot: BingoBoingo updated rating of diana_coman from 5
to 9 << Master of
the Serene Republic's University, S.MG, etc
BingoBoingo: !!rate diana_coman 9 Master of
the Serene Republic's University, S.MG, etc
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated diana_coman 5 at 2018/03/19 15:39:55 << S.MG, Republic
Tech development, Reliable
lobbes will bbl; attending meat matters for
the holidays and will have sporadic
terminal access until ~Jan 2
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-26 09:52:57 mp_en_viaje: in other housekeeping, hey diana_coman lobbes wouldja mind
taking alf's derpy alt-bitcoinwizards off
the loggers header list ?
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of shrysr from 2
to -8 << fuck off granted, as he clearly prefers.
mp_en_viaje: "Sa nu observam diferenta intre practica si
teorie, si sa incercam practic o aplicare
teoretica a
teoriei in practica.", apparently prennial.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman,
this is a great beautiful mirror
to
that "in
theory,
there's no difference between
theory and craptice" ditty : "in principle,
there's no difference between right and principled".
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, imo all
the rest can stay. also imo it is more important
to be right
than principled.
the principles can be written in afterwards, for as long as you're right ; if you're wrong no writ will save you anyway.
mp_en_viaje: because fucking obviously,
the reason you do
things is so you have
to undo
them
two weeks later, such is
the great benefit of dealing with people.
diana_coman: tbh I kept pondering what *should* be in
there
to start with; on one hand it would make sense
to have #trilema + deeded chans really; onth dunno, I'd want #trinque for instance and he hasn't asked for a deed, so uhm.
mp_en_viaje has fixed
the long over-due logger links on
trilema also.
mp_en_viaje: in other housekeeping, hey diana_coman lobbes wouldja mind
taking alf's derpy alt-bitcoinwizards off
the loggers header list ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-25 13:21:44 hanbot: dorion_road haha, so you met voorhees
in 07 '13 and
this,
two months previous, seriously never came up?
There's a
truly
toxic acquaintance for ya.
dorion_road:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-25#1956032 <<
the conference was mentioned, but I don't remember when or by who - josh rossi is also in
that pic and moved
to panama in 2013.
the importance of who was meeting wasn't seriously discussed with me and I didn't have
the smarts at
the
time
to ask and figure it out.
hanbot: dorion_road haha, so you met voorhees
in 07 '13 and
this,
two months previous, seriously never came up?
There's a
truly
toxic acquaintance for ya.