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mircea_popescu: perhaps this is what irks, such a clear statement of that inconvenient (but nevertheless true) fact
mircea_popescu: what people who have no clue believe resting squarely outside not of your control, but THIS WORLD.
mircea_popescu: artifexd this is possible lol. but also a large number.
mircea_popescu: i have enough experience with it to know it does \exactly nothing.
mircea_popescu: i am impersonated all the time, on all sorts of venues.
mircea_popescu: if anyone runs a mega node, his hardware is his problem
mircea_popescu: artifexd so how is it different from the project you thouight it was ?
mircea_popescu: o look, 1k lines by 4 am. ben_vulpes will so much love this.
mircea_popescu: so you're going to have to carry the shoe horn yourself.
mircea_popescu: cause you're tryin to shoehorn nonchat uses of a chat network.
mircea_popescu: spec was simpler on the assumption that since the helo package is keyed to the supposed key of the server, there's no need to challenge
mircea_popescu: artifexd this could also work, as a handshakey sort of thing, sure.
mircea_popescu: i don;'t see what in the spec would prevent anyone from so doing.
mircea_popescu: since we're fixing ircd, might as well actually do it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's merely meant to put chat on a sane footing.
mircea_popescu: and admitting everyone known is known to the same, high degree to warrant a connection.
mircea_popescu: then again, the number of people people know is, from memory 1-200.
mircea_popescu: artifexd a 1mbps connection, which is reasonably common in households, should be able to support maybe a few hundred connections.
mircea_popescu: ie, the police state only exists now and again, when the state of technology is poor enough.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's a subplot i dun wanna enter into now - this is complex enough as it is - but suffice to say i am persuaded such situations are thermodynamiocally bound to narrow timespaces.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not thinking of an adversary. i am designing things correctly.
mircea_popescu: artifexd anywhere between a few dozen and a few thousands.
mircea_popescu: as far as it's in the form "either you or A X" the only answer is "i don't care."
mircea_popescu: but i also have little interest in fighting the narrowing down. that's not really a good use of time.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly how speech has functioned, since the dawn of time, to create what is known as the free world.
mircea_popescu: i want exactly what chat is : absolute deniability to the entire world, save your friends.
mircea_popescu: artifexd suppose you don't reg your name, and someone comes in as artifexd and says things. should you be forced somehow to say if this is the case or not ?
mircea_popescu: and for chat it must be had. and so... it must be baked in.
mircea_popescu: artifexd my argument is that deniability must be baked in or not had.
mircea_popescu: "and then you said so and so" "um how you know this ?" "from node C" "well it lied to you"
mircea_popescu: consider a bunch of chatlogs from gossipd presented in court.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "sign for friends" outside of the model detailed in my spec.
mircea_popescu: which is why this is an ircd fork rather than whatever, just apt-get it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think you misrepresent the importance of this. currently, I can tell. *I*. Because i'm me, specifically. if you signed, so could preet.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know on reflection i'm the other way around ? i wouldn't irc with anyone i put my penis into
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lives in a submarine and never connects to you or your friends. i give him my own version of the "Artifex" key. he signs it.
mircea_popescu: if i get a fake key of you and sign it... it's good as far as the computer is concerned.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, if we keep the A B C D ; X Y Z K convention, then A can impersonate K to Y only provided B isn't linked to C that is linked to D.
mircea_popescu: technically, anyone can make a gpg key and name it Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu: he can only impersonate you to folk that don't know you.
mircea_popescu: artifexd this prevention is guaranteed by design as is.
mircea_popescu: we were discussing why it is good, and it turns out it isn't particularly, and so parsimony dictates it stays out.
mircea_popescu: artifexd you gotta get an up before you can voice. eh ?
mircea_popescu: but it'll look like obama[via lampelina] to kako. who can then go gtfo wtf you smokin beich ?!
mircea_popescu: if she starts doing evil shit like forwarding messages from obama, it'll look like obama: hey dudes, i smoke the c0k! to us,
mircea_popescu: how did lampelina come in ? kako added her to his node and said "hey, lampelina is this hot blondy I met in a bar."