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mircea_popescu: as in, why add clunk that actually harms and hinders, except to perpetuate what we generally agree is a harmful meme.
mircea_popescu: it's odd because to me it seems exactly opposite.
mircea_popescu: but you disagree with the implementation of ewxactly this ?
mircea_popescu: blacklisting doesn't work, and whitelisting should be done locally, and responsibly.
mircea_popescu: same thing.
mircea_popescu: anyone can police the 200 people he himself knows.
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? nobody can police a list of 2bn ip addresses.
mircea_popescu: they still need a friend to let them in.
mircea_popescu: but it's EXACTLY what it is!
mircea_popescu: imo, quite exactly.
mircea_popescu: so it is.
mircea_popescu: literally, all it takes is a one line edit.
mircea_popescu: i dun see how any of these are serious avenues to attack gossipd.
mircea_popescu: was thinking more like xmj and his ilk.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't mind seeing either of those.
mircea_popescu: now, why shouldn't this be the situation to everyone ?
mircea_popescu: as far as i recall, for as far as my own chatlog is concerned, it took them exactly an hour longer than it took me to decide it's enough.
mircea_popescu: who, specifically ?
mircea_popescu: in practice derps never manage this, if we're to go by history, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: ok...
mircea_popescu: 2 derps, 3 days.
mircea_popescu: ok, i frown at your friend, he demures, i delink him, you both are out.
mircea_popescu: now what ?
mircea_popescu: you made it 3 days.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then you piss me off, i frown at your friend, you're out.
mircea_popescu: artifexd i ended up referring to your project as that.
mircea_popescu: i meant, what do you do to gossipd obvbiously.
mircea_popescu: problem solved, september ended.
mircea_popescu: suppose you're an average derp. what do you do ?
mircea_popescu: it actually puts an end to it.
mircea_popescu: it's exactly that tho!
mircea_popescu: i just meant, generally. i dun care for what, trying to see how this works in practice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not because "preet can steal a key"
mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, people who run torrents : how many connections is common ? 10 ? 20 ? 40 ? 80 ? 160 ?
mircea_popescu: doubt it tho, seeing how many they are and how ignominously they labour.
mircea_popescu: mebbe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actual pedo irl yes. among the online scum that makes up a good chunk of the "bitcoin community" on places like forums etc, common enough.
mircea_popescu: guy had a scamrecord a mile long, and always dumb shit like https://bitcointa.lk/threads/devianttwo-scammer.122455/
mircea_popescu: seems to me on the contrary, it's just "random redneck doing various shit online like scams and pedophilia got nicked"
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: woudn't surprise me if legit pedo.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, he was kinda dumb.
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: lmao that sounded like a divisive question.
mircea_popescu: artifexd the roland freisler of our times, preet bharara. crown's prosecutor for southern ny / rico conspiracy lynchpin.
mircea_popescu: this is an illusion.
mircea_popescu: like in the case of rg ?
mircea_popescu: perhaps this is what irks, such a clear statement of that inconvenient (but nevertheless true) fact
mircea_popescu: what people who have no clue believe resting squarely outside not of your control, but THIS WORLD.
mircea_popescu: it won't be believed (meaningfully).
mircea_popescu: artifexd this is possible lol. but also a large number.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform believed is one thing.
mircea_popescu: i have enough experience with it to know it does \exactly nothing.
mircea_popescu: i am impersonated all the time, on all sorts of venues.
mircea_popescu: what's the big deal ?
mircea_popescu: nah. too easy to attack that graph.
mircea_popescu: so... yes.
mircea_popescu: currently therte's 140 people here.
mircea_popescu: this would fit, if you cared to make it fit
mircea_popescu: if anyone runs a mega node, his hardware is his problem
mircea_popescu: should fit on consumer box.
mircea_popescu: artifexd well, dunbar's number as a general rule.
mircea_popescu: artifexd so how is it different from the project you thouight it was ?
mircea_popescu waves.
mircea_popescu: o look, 1k lines by 4 am. ben_vulpes will so much love this.
mircea_popescu: what would you sign ?
mircea_popescu: the helo as it is contains some signed material.
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: so you're going to have to carry the shoe horn yourself.
mircea_popescu: cause you're tryin to shoehorn nonchat uses of a chat network.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: and someone will link it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then put it in a pastebin
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it touches the network somewhere.
mircea_popescu: if hje can decrypt it's him alright.
mircea_popescu: spec was simpler on the assumption that since the helo package is keyed to the supposed key of the server, there's no need to challenge
mircea_popescu: artifexd this could also work, as a handshakey sort of thing, sure.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta route packets somehow.
mircea_popescu: i don;'t see what in the spec would prevent anyone from so doing.
mircea_popescu: since we're fixing ircd, might as well actually do it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's merely meant to put chat on a sane footing.
mircea_popescu: and admitting everyone known is known to the same, high degree to warrant a connection.
mircea_popescu: admitting everyone's awake at the same time.
mircea_popescu: then again, the number of people people know is, from memory 1-200.
mircea_popescu: artifexd a 1mbps connection, which is reasonably common in households, should be able to support maybe a few hundred connections.
mircea_popescu: ie, the police state only exists now and again, when the state of technology is poor enough.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's a subplot i dun wanna enter into now - this is complex enough as it is - but suffice to say i am persuaded such situations are thermodynamiocally bound to narrow timespaces.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not thinking of an adversary. i am designing things correctly.
mircea_popescu: artifexd anywhere between a few dozen and a few thousands.
mircea_popescu: "get something substantial and bother me again"
mircea_popescu: as far as it's in the form "either you or A X" the only answer is "i don't care."
mircea_popescu: deniability is "you X" "no."
mircea_popescu: well, not how i understand it at any rate.
mircea_popescu: but i also have little interest in fighting the narrowing down. that's not really a good use of time.
mircea_popescu: i dun see how that'd be answered.
mircea_popescu: okay.
mircea_popescu: not with the spec as given, imo.
mircea_popescu: high time computers conform.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly how speech has functioned, since the dawn of time, to create what is known as the free world.
mircea_popescu: i want exactly what chat is : absolute deniability to the entire world, save your friends.