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truffles: whoa thats a lot dude
mircea_popescu: anyway, in a doomed effort to improve the porn-to-text ratio of this god forsaken channel, i present you
the20year2: you're just making a statement of 1.2 billion people based on a few you know
pankkake: it's more of a MPOE-PR consecration
cryptolemming: Hi, I'm new here, would just like to introduce we will be announcing a pre-launch of our dice-inspired games casino in the coming weeks. Will be around here a bit in the meantime and likely moreso after launch.
mircea_popescu: holy shit this is a brilliant idea
tg2: I married a catholic and didn't get married in a church, does that make me OK?
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr is on his way to hell; catholicism is a false religion
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well so there you go, your master can make you make a choice. qed.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron ever been a slave ?
danielpbarron: a master can make a slave WISH he made a certain choice; God can literally cause the choice to be made
mircea_popescu: mike_c im not saying it makes sense, i'm merely saying thaty your proposed explanation of why it wouldn't make sense is a description of what you didn't understand of it and nothing more.
tg2: somebody has a slavegirl?
mircea_popescu: ok. ascribing a purpose to my actions is what frustrates the slavegirls, too.
mike_c: i am aware there is a distinction.
mike_c: but you do those things for a reason. so unless god had a reason, the parallel is not there. i can not imagine what you are saying god's reason is.
mircea_popescu: tg2 yeah you're getting a definite pay cut.
the20year2: A local landlord here hired a liquidation company for a few of her properties, in the end she got way more than I would have ever predicted
danielpbarron: the Biblical concept of slavery is more of a business deal
the20year2: I've already contacted a liquidation specialist, and our corp atty to see what needs to be done, granted in real estate I've done it before plenty of times. That way if i was to get run over by a bus, die from too much blow, ect there'd be an automatic liquidation process that would go through
mike_c: so god is just fucking with us so he can play out a power trip. hm.
mircea_popescu: the20year2 just make sure it doesn't turn into a novel way to "sorry lost all the coins".
the20year2: I posted on BTCtalk, but i'm thinking in light of what's going on with N&B and danny that we (RS) elect a special POA in case I disappear
mircea_popescu: but in the context of a slavegirl and her universe, the master is both.
the20year2: He told them to come to him who are weary, burdened, ect so they could believe in Him, so they could be changed. If it wasn't a choice ,Christ would have never said ' come to me', he would have just done it to those whom he was speaking to.
mike_c: 1) He made eve eat the apple. 2) He knew who told eve she was nekked. 3) He had a conversation about it with her anyway, already knowing the answers, the outcome of the conversation, and everything that would happen before and after.
danielpbarron: mike_c: you've never asked a retorical question?
danielpbarron: the Bible mentions "free will offerings" which are animal sacrifices that do not coresond to a sin having been committed
the20year2: it certrainly does if you're not a calvinist
truffles: for a believer danielpbarron has a weird view of things
mircea_popescu: jborkl i think that's a fetish.
mircea_popescu: pain and suffering is a sine qua non condition of human existence.
mircea_popescu: cmyers either that or you're not a perfectly good worker :D
benkay: an atheist and a bible thumper show up in assets the same day
cmyers: he's a shitty god
danielpbarron: so it is a misunderstanding to ask why God "allows evil" --- He CAUSES IT
mircea_popescu: it unites the epicurean with the cheeky children of today, all presuming they are a measuring stick for good.
mircea_popescu: actually if a rule was made that discussing the bible in any other language is heresy and lake-of-fire it'd be so much better.
danielpbarron: if you believe a lie, you are not saved
danielpbarron: so it would make God a liar
truffles: well i once was a religious person so uh yea i know of many
danielpbarron: the only other individuals i've met that believe the entire Bible live in a different state
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benkay: you took a decade off that lady's life. shame, mircea_popescu !
danielpbarron: a millitant Christian wields the sword of Truth which is the Gospel
cmyers: but remember, a "millitant atheist" uses a pen and a keyboard. what does a "millitant christian" or "millitant muslim" use? The words are all out of whack.
cmyers: the literal meaning of atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. that's it.
truffles: its very rare to find a reasonable one though
truffles: i dont consider myself a troll
truffles: here lies why id prefer discussions with a troll than a "knowlegeable" person cuz at least the troll knows he's trolling
cmyers: if you believe there is a god, but aren't certain, then you are an agnostic theist
truffles: pick a side
cmyers: I am certain I do not believe in a god. I am not certain there is no god
danielpbarron: a food says there is no God
truffles: just a stab at that certainty think
cmyers: no. I lack a belief in a god, which is what atheist means
cmyers: I've come a long way over the years. I'm happy to say I'm engaged, in a fulfilling job, etc etc. But in particular, I've spent a lot of time studying (armchair-studying) epistemology, and how people know things
ThickAsThieves: "Really! If you think you can do a better job, strap on a vest, join the force and get your butt out there!"
asciilifeform: what braggartry! the things i don't understand... could fill a galactic library.
khersonus: by "back to work" I meant "back to coding". I don't have a "day job"
mircea_popescu: they really should respecify the thing, have it spit out a base64 blob which can then be used directly.
khersonus: dexX7: yeah, but to verify a bitcoin message, you need those 3 things
dexX7: <khersonus> so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. << ?? you need a privkey and a message to generate a signature.. from the sig+message you can derive the public key
mike_c: well, i am eager to hear about it! not sure how one profits without a counterparty taking the loss.
mircea_popescu: mike_c well since he says "and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position" i imagine he's at least tried.
khersonus: mike_c: not really. I'd like there to be a way/market to profit from the BTC/USD price movement, in bitcoin, without there being a possibility of the marketmaker/house going bust, and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position
mircea_popescu: pLambert a gpg message including a block and its hash could prove it wasn't made before that block yes
mike_c: is it a secret something?
khersonus: I'm working on something I think you might find interesting, MP, but it will require a few more months of me working on it (just in case I find some hole I overlooked in the implementation that I didn't think of in the planning stages)
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how you'd verify btc address signatures on a large scale.
mircea_popescu: well i suppose it does use a tx yes.
khersonus: it requires a blockchain transaction
khersonus: but if I wanted to do this on a larger scale, that is not exactly handy
mircea_popescu: khersonus you can, if somewhat more circumvolutedly. you sign a gpg "x address will pay 0.04875983 btc to y address at z time"
mircea_popescu: now, the problem of making a bot / extending one already present is not worth the mention
mircea_popescu: it makes 0 diff to me if i type ;;sig in here or gpg in a cli. all i want is to have somewhere i can type into.
mircea_popescu: a contender can't expect me to simply invest in the infrastructure.
khersonus: specifically a bot
mircea_popescu: khersonus what do you mean you haven't seen it used before ? gpg altogether or specifically a bot ?
mircea_popescu: khersonus if i can't have a bot to which i go ;;sig blabla and it spits out a "so and so signed this thing on this date" it's useless toi me.
mircea_popescu: yeah, s.mg is going to re-release neo as a zork-type game
khersonus: mike_c: I see, I had a similar idea in mind for proving ownership of coins
khersonus: have any of you seen the "sign message" feature of bitcoin used for a service in the wild?
mircea_popescu: khersonus i tend to walk a lot. i like european-style towns, where most everything is designed for the pedestrian.
mircea_popescu: i walk a good 10 miles a day, but i wouldn't bother trying to run50
nubbins`: nevermind that seasoned runners will train 8 months for a marathon
mircea_popescu: it's a mental problem of kids that weren't allowed to get hurt.
nubbins`: seriously. a regular marathon isn't big enough
mircea_popescu: he should die a bloody painful death so the rest of redit observes directly that no, you can't do anything "you set your mind to".
mircea_popescu: it's a good and useful thing.
mircea_popescu: well, are there going to be a fifty girls following him a mile each with cattle prods and clear orders to cattle prod him without respite unless he runs?
mircea_popescu: stories from a different hell :
nubbins`: man. so i ordered a bunch of supplies on wednesday. put my debit card number into three different websites instead of my credit card number
mircea_popescu: should have been "i received a directory of direct threats directed directly at my daughter"
ozbot: Who cares about robots, here's a much more practical CAPTCHA. - Imgur
nubbins`: "they're there their" in three images, with a sentence underneath
nubbins`: i saw this proposed as a captcha replacement once
mircea_popescu: then dropped a there in there. you know, instead of their.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` there was some derp at some point going for about 200 words pretending like he's a bigshot
mircea_popescu: of the time (purely by virtue of the universe's mechanisms; that's not a personal slight)."