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mircea_popescu: aegis being, of course,
the one remaining "us superiority" item.
ben_vulpes: mats: has
the usg defense industry made a
thing
that was ready for use against anything-thats-not-goatfuckers-with-twenty-year-old-mortars?
mats: ultimately
the report was about how unready
the Aegis was for use against strategic ballistic missiles
ben_vulpes: less
than
twelve months later, americans are wondering what we did
to deserve
the plane-bombing
ben_vulpes: coincidentally, also
the year of
the Aguilera/Durst MTV awards collab
mats: also important
to note
that
the DoD's review office (OT&E) found Aegis
to be very difficult
to upgrade circa 2002
mircea_popescu: mats yeah, except
the usg is in no position
to offer anyone anything. but w/e, all sorts of charlies ready
to suicide, so.
mats: but
that report was about use against strategic ballistic missiles
mats: the SM-2, SM-3 are also known
to be shite for ascent or mid-course intercepts (insufficient velocity iirc)
ben_vulpes: mats:
those are pure kinetic countermeasures?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: baww,
targets shrink
two orders of magnitude and billions of dollars get flushed down
the drain.
mats: specifically with smaller
targets (smaller
than airplane, which it was originally designed
to
track) at greater distances
ben_vulpes: mats: what all is actually going on in
that video?
mats: i have read reports by DoD
that indicate dissatisfaction with
the Aegis system's autonomous detection and
tracking
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pigeons and qcs are
trivially differentiable on derivatives
mats: well,
that first statement is not exactly
true,
they do
that all
the
time
ben_vulpes: my money's on less
than 10 concurrent inbound
targets while
the systems have payloads
to deploy.
ben_vulpes: mats: well why would
they say anything, much less anything indicative of how badly
the systems actually function
mats: i get
that, i however haven't read any pentagon reports
to suggest where
that bound is at
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform:
this is effective enough
to make
them invisible on ir?
ben_vulpes: the point is
that deployed systems have a hard upper bound of inbound
targets
they can handle, and
there is no such hard upper bound
to how many inbounds can be lobbed at
them, much less any sort of constraint on btc/lobbed body.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: how many
tonnes of fudge in
the chocolate shop?
ben_vulpes: mats: granted
they can handle 1, 2, 3 at a
time.
mats: that could possibly cause incoming
to dump into sea, and look like a soft kill
to untrained observers
mats: or maybe
they used some other sekrit forward deployed countermeasure, like a directed energy anti missile weapons system
ben_vulpes: the leading
two of
that list having failed lolariously in
the recent sorties, no?
ben_vulpes: mats: is
there a 'hard kill' in
this context?
mats: i suspect
these were also 'soft kills'
though
ben_vulpes: mats: got any intel on
the latest salvos against
the Mason?
ben_vulpes: "yeah sure, his campaign is dead. you realize
that his base actually wishes
they were as witty and erudite in public as he is in private?"
mats: 'i can't properly describe what you believe so i'll use a word people commonly
think is offensive'
BingoBoingo: If you only have one cycle you have a
torch or a firecracker, not a motor.
mats: this cycle, 'nazi' is a catch-all word used by
the unimaginative and slow
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> eh we've got a few more cycles between here and
there <<
Trump's
too old
to have more cycles
ben_vulpes: imagine
the world in which
the rank-and-file dems wish for an opponent like
trump
ben_vulpes: eh we've got a few more cycles between here and
there
mats: prob not. helluva bet for
the pesh - usg offers statehood in exchange for
the lives of
tens of
thousands of
their young men
a111: Logged on 2016-10-16 14:38 mircea_popescu: stuff like "domestic
tranquility", "high density" and "handheld power
tools" - pick exactly
two.
mircea_popescu: i dun imagine
teh isis can afford
to lose
their only port.
mats: i wonder how
the peshmerga feel about coalition forces being
too cowardly
to put
troops in
the fight
mircea_popescu: on
the other side, desperation
tends
to paint
the map -
they're now considering whether
to declare az, georgia or utah blue.
mircea_popescu: o hey check it out, gingrich and giuliani backing up
the democrat election fraud
trump
thing.
mircea_popescu: but hey, references from
their own subreddit are apparently wikiplopedic now.
mircea_popescu: and of course
the shitstain has a wikipedia page. because wikipedia is not for commercial advertising of utterly irrelevant mfa sites.
mircea_popescu: imagine
that fucking pile of nonsense. next
they're going
to give
them an obama prize.
mircea_popescu: especially when involved are
total scamsites with
the dating gimmick. here's a newsflash :
the only reason
these exist is because
the owners are working an angle.
mircea_popescu: since when
the fuck can "investigation" on
the basis of words be a cause of action in
the first fucking place.
pete_dushenski: i was
thinking of
the win against charles xii of sweden when peter i was at
the helm at Lesnaia 9=[']0(not routing by swedes near narva)
pete_dushenski: russians win 'how
to make effective artillery brigade' race
then 'how
to make spaceship' race
then 'how
to make strongman' race. next ? 'how
to make elbrus' race ?
mircea_popescu: putin predates china. but his presence might have been informative ;
teh chinese are pretty good at "use what works"
a111: Logged on 2016-10-16 13:47 mircea_popescu: speaking of duterte : it is quite evident what sort of
trumpian "strong leader" china prefers
to run its barbaric neighbours.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-16 12:48 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i expect she hates him which is how she got
to be a nanny in canada in
the first place. "he gets in way of unipolar us world!!" in alt-statement.
pete_dushenski:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-16#1555875 << possible she hates him, possible she's less
than familiar with him other
than
third-hand via fambly back home. she left
the country close
to a decade ago, worked in electronics assembly in korea,
then nanny in singapore and hk before landing here a few months ago.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: depends on
the design etc. lots of places - including romania - are built on ring pattern interchange.
this has
the obvious weakness.
mircea_popescu: this is what
they're not saying, not
that it isn't evident.
mircea_popescu: losing
the major interchanges can fry your whole system
mircea_popescu: that's
the issue - losing distribution
transformers is mere nuisance.
mircea_popescu: anyway. REALLY hard
to defend from "hunting rifle". 30-06 soft charge (say like
the M2 ball) will cut
through 1cm of steel
mircea_popescu: they could detect holes and shoot down as it is.
that's
the more rational approach,
than brick