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gribble: Error: 'New' is not a valid integer.

ThickAsThieves: at some point 15% is a shit ton of hash

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i was looking athte 9bn bet. seems a lock.

mircea_popescu: benkay a fraction between 0 and epsilon.

benkay: and is it not a thing any more?

kakobrekla: a "biton"

BingoBoingo: benkay: Prolly to early for a label. Wait for some lulzy incedent to reveal the proper term.

bounce: buy up the factory for a song

asciilifeform: one day, a 'virginal' high quality crt will be a mega-luxury. like stradivarius.

bounce: or source a large stack of them for parts (and get money to take'em away)

asciilifeform: somewhere, there probably still lives a man who can re-wind a burned yoke.

bounce: and a CRT to boot. you likes dem high voltage, no?

benkay: well it sounds as though he's progressed to calling /you/ a fraud. that's progress.

asciilifeform: benkay: i've given up - the man's a broken record.

Apocalyptic: in Xchat you have to specify a mask followed by ALL if you want to block everything

asciilifeform: <robwizz22> complete lie, meant to play on people's recognition of the word "heartbleed bug" without knowing what it is. There is no SSL anywhere within 100 miles of a Cardano, nor did I ever mention it. You seem to be playing off of your audience's ignorance. Is this really want you want to be doing with your life? Selling snake oil? Being a fraud?

asciilifeform: <robwizz22> the shelf usb storage to store a private key and pass phrase). You are lying about its benefits. You've come up with something absolutely and utterly useless. If it's a scam, good job. I like how you spread FUD about me trying to "introduce heartbleed" (which doesn't make any sense - the Cardano is a USB device) when I pointed this out. You obviously are smart enough to know that is a simple a

bounce recalls some discussion about deep purple laughing about a bunch of others because they were so "out of tune with what was happening in londen at the time" -- due to having the wrong haircut

ThickAsThieves: it's a disease and everyone wants it!

mircea_popescu: it's like "please don't kick us out of here, we know we don't belong, can this count as a getoutof kicking ?"

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves except check this shit out : "clearly this shit works but it's a coincidence because i don't think it should or see why it would"

bounce: "just look at me being a dork but I get away with it because I'm cooler than thou"

benkay: at a party last night someone said "all business transactions are fictitious" and apparently my reaction was amusing enough to justify staging a reenactment: http://imgur.com/SdbMdMf

kakobrekla: its not a lie if i honestly believe so!

Anduck: kakobrekla: too bad but that's a lie

mircea_popescu: so it's a case of the newspaper memory hole imo

mircea_popescu: but since the new rules you HAVe been talking a lot

ThickAsThieves: "A study in mice shows that trauma might be inherited through altered gene expression in sperm"

kakobrekla: write a script

kakobrekla: then it does not have a timer

Azelphur: yea, it's coincidence more than anything else, there's been a few times I've typed stuff in here, had it dropped because of +m and gone to speak elsewhere instead

kakobrekla: benkay that not a bug that just retards in the playground

bounce: call it a hobby and it's win-win all the way

mircea_popescu: i guess incultured independence is a thing, even so.

mircea_popescu: problem is 100 hours at minimum wage + your upfront would make more than the "winning in a small way"

bounce: plenty people care about winning small in the same way that wossname home traders want to feel like a trader much more than making money trading

mircea_popescu: if you're good enough to actually get forum mentions the effect in question is comparatively weak. if you're weak and rely on trying to spam forums it won't likely get you anything anyway. at least in a high level survey sort of mindset. no denying that derping on the internet could turn your 100 bux and 110 hours a week into 1k or w/e, just... who cares about that.

bounce: two consonants at the start is nice for re-visits, not so much for first looks, typing from a commercial or the decals on a lorry or whatever

dignork: mircea_popescu, yes, but in this case "google" algo kicks in, and he still gets a customer, so this dns exploits another mind bug , instead of browser autocompletion

dignork: another example then: otc user shilling a service with domain name consisting of "bitcoin" and "insanity", i'll never remember the domain name, but googling these two terms kinda brings me to his site

starsoccer: well i ussually idle in a few so it always sees me

mircea_popescu: this is a point, indeed. a minor one, i suspect.

dignork: mircea_popescu, DNS article, topic related name might get indexed by search engine in forum links etc, so they might not be a total waste of money

mircea_popescu: if you've a modicum of culture and read the damned things you stand some chance of at least picking the right one for the purpose.

mircea_popescu: bounce to learn a craft, you copy the masters. pick a play, rewrite it for your topic, publish your clumbsy attempt for general ridicule.

mircea_popescu: this should be a play.

bounce tries and fails to come up with a funny connecting "africanisation of the west" to the fail that is "black culture" in the US and bright eyed young white pasty silly vally kids

pankkake: I thought it was a typo

fluffypony: [20:24:57] <xodianbarr> fyi the prypto shares early adopter offering ends tonight. Tomorrow they will be unavailable and on Tuesday they go on bitcoinbourse. Anyone purchasing at least 1 share till the deadline gets a private share for every public share purchased and the opportunity of the private share account which gives an insight into dividend profit build up monthly.

bounce: so I rewrote that thing from yesterday in python then fixed the calculations: http://pastebin.ca/2695668 apparently this "comprehensions" thing is a bit contagious.

mircea_popescu: or a lot of apple slices.

only: pankkake: a big ass humidor should suffice

mircea_popescu: you could just as well buy a wife for 40 leaves

pankkake: I'm thinking of hoarding tobacco, as a doomsday currency

only: any tobacco smokers in here? I want a rating as well :)

pankkake: dignork would have had a trust through me soon anyways

FabianB: gpgme is a library for gpg, gpg-agent just just 'remember my pw for a period of time'

mircea_popescu: gpgme isn't bad, there's also a gpgagent thing that seems solid

thestringpuller: bounce: sounds like a problem for pankkake

bounce: though if you go (bourne, not bourne again please) script it's probably a good idea to tell the thing to use "C" for a locale, lest the thing suddenly talks french or something

bounce: interfacing gpg is clunky to the point there's a library to make it easier, gpgme (haven't checked how much it helps, to me it's just another annoying dependency), though some programs just run the commands and look at the answer strings

mircea_popescu: prolly a bash script'd be the best

fluffypony: from reddit: "Just to clarify, this is not a new Gox. They were only here cos that fat french fuck had to run away from his previous crimes. This exchange appears to be a proper japanese exchange aimed at the Japanese people."

fluffypony: lol, so there's a new Japanese exchange: btcbox.co.jp

kakobrekla: the problem is, theres a difference between "!up Anduck" and "!up anduck"

Anduck: well, it's not a bug but... that is a bug

kakobrekla: i found a bug.

kakobrekla: you dont get those if you are upped by someone else or if theres a split like it was.

cgcardona_: kakobrekla: gave me a little trust yesterday. i think that was sufficient

cgcardona_: the time lag is that I need to reauth w/ gribble each time which takes a second.

fluffypony: he looks like a wizard

benkay: ;;rate TestingUnoDosTre 1 still using a web client

gribble: Error: ";verify" is not a valid command.

cgcardona_: "they will jump through all sorts of rationalizations as to why their burn was a good idea." - couldn't you say the same thing about most people who have a vested interest in something succeeding?

benkay: consider a bitcoin thing; an alt chain, a piggyback thing, whatever it is.

benkay: do it, now you have this tiny network of people who need to see the value of their coins increase. they will jump through all sorts of rationalizations as to why their burn was a good idea.

benkay: proof of burn is a great way to get people to buy into your thing

cgcardona_: omg 'proof-of-burn' is actually a thing

benkay: kinda almost like copying the file and putting it on a device

fluffypony: so kinda like buying it and having a local copy except not

fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I do peripherally - I have a Songza premium sub ($0.99 a week) and a Rdio Unlimited subscription ($10/month)

benkay: wow hey i just realized a thing

cgcardona_: fluffypony: more accurately if you *produce* a massive single. writers/performers get screwed as well

fluffypony: passive income is not a thing unless you happen to write a massive single that will be played for the next 100 years, or write a timeless book that will be sold for the next 100 years

ThickAsThieves: one day i want to grow up and be a DAC cab company owner

fluffypony: that's why the whole Internet marketing / Warrior Forum thing is such a clever scam

benkay: an individual suggesting a business could be run on algorithms is demonstrating why that person is unsuited to make claims about businesses.

benkay: getting a bit echo-y in here...

fluffypony: stumbling across a randomly generated BTC privkey that is for an address with funds is equally possible and probably more likely

fluffypony: you could convince people it's a burner

fluffypony: given a sufficiently powerful vanity address generator

benkay: besides, it's a garbage example. anyone controlling significant numbers of btc won't be burning significant numbers of them. maybe the odd equivalent of a buttcoin to see some derps flail with their piggyback chains, but not a significant number.

cgcardona_: right - and satoshi's quote says "Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone."

cgcardona_: ok then can I spin it as all of the burn in coins will just remove btc from the blockchain thus driving value to the blockchain a la' "Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone."

benkay: it is a time honored practice, this centralizing of important things.

fluffypony: I also don't see what's wrong (fundamentally) with an exchange being a central point of issuance/authority/failure, as long as it's not built and run like mtgox or litecoininvest or whatever

benkay: look, an exchange is by definition a place people gather to exchange a thing

benkay: the whole thing is a punt

cgcardona_: so you're saying it's like premining in the sense that the people creating the coins which need to be burned in to are starting the game with a bunch of the new coins for themselves?

benkay: fluffypony: these initial burns are just as much a crime as premining.