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ThickAsThieves: you mention $65k for software dev, and that's for a worker doing it in his spare time?
fluffypony: so the minute we go into fiat we become a financial services provider
fluffypony: Naphex: nope - official stance from the SARB (reserve bank) is - "Bitcoin has no legal status or a regulatory framework."
Naphex: fluffypony: is bitcoin recognised as a financial instrument? or 'electronic money' in SA?
ThickAsThieves: including software as a solution seems appropriate
ThickAsThieves: i could be wrong on the marketing little things, sometimes i get a bit elitist with my views on it
fluffypony: here it's a ball-ache
fluffypony: we'd have to register as a financial services provider and a deposit taking institution
ThickAsThieves: it seems a little petty in the context
ThickAsThieves: i'm not a fan of competitions for marketing
ThickAsThieves: is this sposed to be like a Havelock IPO or something?
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I like getting stuck into the technical stuff with it, sure, but it *is* a means to an end
ThickAsThieves: (i'm being a stickler on purpose, take it or leave it)
fluffypony: but GPU mining yes, I have a few years of historical data
ThickAsThieves: ah i see a graph
benkay: that you didn't save your imaging data is a little boggling.
ThickAsThieves: "Investors can choose to be silent investors, providing feedback on decisions only,or active investors that play a role in the decision-making process and in the ultimate success of OpenRigs."
ThickAsThieves: "Investors can choose to be silent investors, receiving feedback on decisions only,or active investors that will play a role in the decision making process and in the ultimate success of OpenRigs."
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: that's exactly it, it's a means to an end
ThickAsThieves: odd that youre leading with a mining farm
fluffypony: (bearing in mind it's a fiat business, not a BTC business per se, so it's not meant to compete with a pure BTC business)
fluffypony: if anyone has a few mins I'd like a sanity check before I send it out to interested people
fluffypony: I'm looking for a bit of seed funding to expand and grow OpenRigs, benkay took a looksie at a previous version of my proposal and made some suggestions (which I've incorporated)
Naphex: have a radio mesh of transcievers
fluffypony: I have a friend that switched from iOS to Android in October
moiety: that snowden phone that everyone had kittens over seemed a bit futile to me
benkay: if i ever want to get off the iphone i have to get a new number, because my current number is cached in every iphone that's ever texted me and will go over apple's servers no matter no matter.
moiety: i got a "and who's this?" once .. "zoom in, its the doctors -_-"
moiety: no just sitting huffing being a retard. even though if you check the map of my city it would show a Tesco store or something
fluffypony: that's when they "surprise" you with a visit to your house, right?
moiety: voxer gives a location point on a map, thats even worse, i used to get "why were you not at your house?"
fluffypony: moiety: WhatsApp is the worst with that..."I see the message got delivered because there's a second tick...are we fighting now that you're not replying?"
moiety: i hate message things that give a 'read' report. just leads to "why did it take you 4 hours to reply?"
moiety: and everything is so retarded here unless you are pregnant and/or have a drug habit
fluffypony: cool I'll give that a spin, tks benkay
benkay: fluffypony: don't quite recall much more than writing my name on a piece of paper and dropping it into the pdf.
fluffypony: benkay: didn't know that - but doesn't the form need to have a dedicated PDF-compliant signature block to use that?
fluffypony: I have a PNG of my signature
fluffypony: I bought a copy of PDFPen
moiety: so irritating, fucked without a printer
gribble: Error: "kitteh-laser" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "kitteh-lasers" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "laser-kitteh" is not a valid command.
benkay: REL continues to not deliver (although hey, give 'em a decade or two and maybe we'll get cold fusion while we're at it) and Nautilus continues to inch forwards: http://www.nautilusminerals.com/s/Media-NewsReleases.asp?ReportID=647179
benkay: i was preparing a frontal assault on Nautilus Minerals and Reaction Engines Ltd. when I acquired a redhead who understandably has no desire to live in either rural Britain or within commuting distance of deep-sea deposits.
asciilifeform: go, polish a turd.
bounce: didn't DARPA issue a "challenge" for cigarette-sized easily scatterable mobile APs?
asciilifeform: anyone who doesn't grasp this is a pwnie, doomed to be ridden by children in the park.
asciilifeform: bounce: cook up a few suitable radio designs << think about this.
bounce: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2014/04/23/emergency_services_network/ -- I thought they already had a unified service. so, how hard is it to cook up a few suitable radio designs and add some backing management software?
ThickAsThieves: me in #bitcoin-dev : <ThickAsThieves> i'd like to put a nose in my nose to prevent me from having to smell things i dont like
fluffypony: I believe the charge for such heresy is a negrating on the WoT
ThickAsThieves: are you questioning a core developer of bitcoin!?
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fluffypony: "An SSD is non-magnetic storage, there is not really any protection needed. Put a metal case around it and im pretty sure it can drop from the atmosphere into the ground at free fall speed and still operate once free'd from the metal casing"
asciilifeform: there's a certain engineering dynamic at work, where the poor schmuck begins to contemplate what it would take to -actually- solve the problem, and then his starfish begins to pucker
asciilifeform imagines the moneyed idiot who launches a 'pc-compatible' running existing softs, for security-critical application
asciilifeform: i was once taught 'gypsy recipe for chicken' - '1) first, find a chicken'
asciilifeform: ideally they'd have a solid-state (piezo?) 'swim bladder'
ThickAsThieves: they would live inside a whale
asciilifeform: to talk to 'seacoin' all you'd need is a hydrophone and a few km of fishing line.
HeySteve: it seems they CAN stay up a while, what is different between the ones that last 1000+ days and the month long ones?
fluffypony: davout: they're probably thinking they can just send a Raspberry Pi and an SSD up and it'll work
ThickAsThieves: let's all buy a toy!
asciilifeform: cubesats are normally a thing for engineering students.
fluffypony: asciilifeform: a computer? some form of communication?
fluffypony: "a 512GB SSD Drive will do in the satellite for the coming 10 years. It will barely consume power and generate next to no heat at all.... It is not like we are sending miners into space, just public nodes carrying the blockchain...."
asciilifeform: notice what isn't in a 'cubesat.'
asciilifeform: in his place, i would've sprung for a satellite constellation, storage using shamir's splitter algo.
ThickAsThieves: i understand, yet can't grok how you'd actually go about proving a "house" can stand without load-bearing walls, in practice
mircea_popescu: it's a discussion of whether it has load bearing walls.
mircea_popescu: no but listen, this is not a discussion of whether a house collapsed
ThickAsThieves: (unless you are a BitBet mod)
ThickAsThieves: but how do you prove that a functional economy is broken?
chetty: humans break everything, its a natural law
ThickAsThieves: since a broken economy can exist for a long time
ThickAsThieves: itll be a tough one to prove
fluffypony: that would make it akin to a natural law, yes?
mircea_popescu: people spending a while trying to find a contradiction with reality and failing to do so.
ThickAsThieves: so what steps are needed to make this theory a law?
mircea_popescu: it's not a technology, it's ontology.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve voice here is a wholly innovative, quite well designed thing. it has exactly nothing in common with "moderation" as used on the interwebs forums
mircea_popescu: <HeySteve> timestamping doesn't initially seem to add much to a WoT, but I'm starting to think the more data points the easier to spot Sibyls <<< wot has timestamps as it is.
mircea_popescu: <HeySteve> I'm still stuck on this Sybil thing :) if you identify a puppet troupe, is there a mechanism to neutralise it beyond information-sharing? << no, by definition.
mircea_popescu: <Naphex> if i would've had more time i would deffinetly do a ISK/BTC exchange just for fun:D << or else just join 1BTC, bitcoin's eve guild, where shares are tradeable for mpex shares etc.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> who knows what's possible when you add a new feature that already exists << lmao
HeySteve: ok fluffypony, fair enough, I need a better word for it
bounce: usenet was pretty spiffy before AOL though. even if you needed a sometimes gigantic killfile
mircea_popescu: <HeySteve> a possible solution is moderation << doesn't work for bitcointalk.
Naphex: A sells Douche to B through bitcoin, B cand then send a signed rate after.
ThickAsThieves: i also have no basic problem with integrating a WoT into the blockchain
Naphex: make it signed before you submit a rateing
HeySteve: I'm thinking rating will be a transaction, so that's timestamped and recorded. as you say, it is another level of context
HeySteve: is there a time associated with anything but registration in the WoT?
HeySteve: an individual is easy to fake, a real network much harder (so my theory goes)
HeySteve: timestamping doesn't initially seem to add much to a WoT, but I'm starting to think the more data points the easier to spot Sibyls
HeySteve: well if a fork is for stabbing, a blockchain is for timestamping as nanotube said to me
kakobrekla: its ok for camping, but normally its used in a separate form