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fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: FIX is quite an interesting, old (early 90's) protocol that is basically pipe-char separated key-values (key is always numeric and based on a predefined list), and you literally dump the ASCII over a TCP session
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> with a dangly piece of wire running precariously from your roof to the pole << funny, that's how romania does optic fibre.
fluffypony: admittedly their approval process isn't much of a process
asciilifeform: i think it was a plant of his, rather than house
benkay: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu posted a picture a few months back of the amusing repair job done on the wire into his house/
asciilifeform: benkay: the romanian internet situation was dire << don't know about the rest of Ro, but in Timis. there were fiber bundles as thick as a man's neck, everywhere.
fluffypony: benkay: when the wind blows that piece of wire hits a tree and our Internet drops
benkay: i'll let you know how it goes in a decade.
benkay: fluffypony, ThickAsThieves i'm testing a scarcity hunch
benkay: <fluffypony> with a dangly piece of wire running precariously from your roof to the pole << and i thought the romanian internet situation was dire.
ThickAsThieves: jurov otherwise i'll leave it to them to present a more elaborate document of their plan
gribble: Error: You have not given this nick a rating previously.
ThickAsThieves: thank you very much for your input and for pointing our a direction! It most certainly helps.
benkay: mircea_popescu: regarding the emacs thing, it's just a bit of lisp to make working with gribble and assbot a little more pleasant.
ThickAsThieves: apparently i know a guy that knows a guy here: https://www.atlasats.com/about
mike_c: and if you're in there, small bug report: weight_current is an int, but weight_end is a string.
ThickAsThieves: i have additional request, a "scroll to bottom" button on the log
fluffypony: meanwhile there are 6 hops between the "mtgox" address and the ScamSafe address, any of which could be an exchange or a tumbler
bounce: entirely underwater appears to be less of a problem than half-submerged
bounce: plastic liner, perhaps mineral oil instead of air for a filler
bounce: you're trying to play a numbers game. why the spendy alloys when something stupid like concrete would do?
bounce: why not? just thicken them up a bit. perhaps fill with cooling liquid if pressure becomes a problem. no need for air inside.
asciilifeform: point was, if the only object is to put machines in physically-inaccessible places, rather than cover the planet with radio, the sea is a more appropriate place than orbit.
bounce: that's 3.5e11 dollahs. maybe a little on the spendy side.
fluffypony: if anyone wants me to put them down as a CoinBr referral...first to give me their invitation code gets it
bounce: parkers? but wouldn't a cold war bunker be cheaper then?
bounce: maybe cheaper to get a 2nd hand sea platform or something
bounce: and then you have a submarine. then what?
asciilifeform: fluffypony: they "need" $3.5 mil << one could build a... submarine. for this
hanbot: ;;rate jurov 1 A dili-, intelli-, gent.
davout: ;;rate hanbot 1 delivered a fuckton of worthy smackdowns
HeySteve: a bit like Freenet I think
fluffypony: with a dangly piece of wire running precariously from your roof to the pole
fluffypony: should be a lot more stable than DSL
fluffypony: HeySteve: run a bouncer off a VPS or something, then you won't miss anything
hanbot: ;;rate kakobrekla 1 A reliable bloke who rolls a good fag.
hanbot: ;;rate davout 1 Delivered a worthy smackdown.
fluffypony: asciilifeform: if you're a company that doesn't want to trust your data to DropBox for sensitivity reasons, but still need to have similar functionality, it's great
asciilifeform: that's like building a replica of public toilet in your house.
fluffypony: Naphex: http://owncloud.org - it's just a FOSS implementation of a Google Drive/DropBox style service, so you have to host your own server to run it
Naphex: i'm not a fan of the cloud
fluffypony: Naphex: I'm not, just a friend using them for his ownCloud data (1gbps colocated box)
mircea_popescu: hey, DRKP or KDPR or DERP or wtf it's called secret services : drop the man a memo wtf.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: how bout a toast to true capitalism?
mircea_popescu: i mean... not a single correct one at all. 0. zilch. nada.
mircea_popescu: benkay sure. a lot of excellent application for homomorphisms in crypto, many of them empowered/exposed by bitcoin
asciilifeform: chetty: good time for a tragic 'bug', i'd say.
asciilifeform: chetty: lol, mein Führer is permitted near a robot ?!
asciilifeform: 'here's a chaingun, kid, have fun'
kakobrekla: anyway im off for a couple of hrs. later
asciilifeform: phun phact. you can't buy a XC6216 now - for love or money.
asciilifeform: 'tis a machine that threads arses. thought this was clear.
ThickAsThieves: a kind one
fluffypony asks his wife for a translation
asciilifeform: do we get a '.wtf' ?
ThickAsThieves: ceo is a domain tld?
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: was offline for a bit
fluffypony: lol - "If gox is solvent I'll buy you a Frappucino"
ThickAsThieves: it's like a dream
fluffypony: kakobrekla: can you make assbot ping Anduck every day at a random time? :-P
mircea_popescu: (it's roughjly the equivalent of a normal ib liquidity clause)
mircea_popescu: you get a 10% cut of the results, report your trades monthly.
mircea_popescu: ima make you a s.mpif manager, give you 50 BTC , your job is to try and make a profit trading s.mpif of mpex.
mircea_popescu: it goes like this : the s.mpif is going to be reporting its assets monthly. meanwhile it will probably trade. there should be a mechanism to buy/sell shares to ensure the market stays liquid and more or less alligned to net value. so what i want to do is :
mircea_popescu: ok i got a business proposition for you
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you have a mpex acct right ?
ThickAsThieves: rather than converting everything into a summary
ThickAsThieves: thank you very much for your input and for pointing our a direction! It most certainly helps.
Anduck: is there a good summary of that whole neo bee casE?
toddf: so "I made money, just curious to talk to others who are also there" is a bad argument?
mircea_popescu: this is a poor argument. if you read the logs you'll see you're by no means singular in making that error.
toddf: I've put some money in, and have already returned my investment plus, keeps on truckin, so .. 100th at least seems not to be a scam to me
mircea_popescu: toddf it's a scam. forget about it already, move on.
toddf: so am i in a void or is any news or chatter about picostocks.com just nonexistent? ;-)
mircea_popescu: said by a 6 yo puerto rican kid on the lam to a 50 yo retired blonde prostitute.
mircea_popescu: "Fuck! He don't know the score. He sees a dame like you and a guy like me. He don't know."
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a great film.
fluffypony: fast forward 2 years and they "go bankrupt" and this new crowd that registered a business like a month ago "buys" all their existing contracts and databases and everything for $100 or something stupid
CheckDavid: A position of experience and financial success
fluffypony: there was a rental agency that had this awesome comm structure - find a tenant and you get half of their management fee for the lifetime of the tenant (they charge ~10% of the rent as a management fee)
mircea_popescu: informal only works if you're either part of the core or part of a group that can squish them.
CheckDavid: Though I was thinking about starting collaboration in a more informal manner.
fluffypony: otherwise after a year or two the company can "fold" and reopen to service all the old clients, cutting you out the loop
mircea_popescu: always very easy to find out which. just, need a little experience in business.
mircea_popescu: it's building their equity. either they pay for it or you get a share of it.
mircea_popescu: in NO case do you work for a startup on a comission basis wtf is this, the land of where they get shit for free ?
mircea_popescu: anywya, if you're working for a start-up you want either equity or a salary.
mircea_popescu: yeah it's kinda how large deals work. industrial equipment is a perfect example.
fluffypony: CheckDavid: there is actually some precedent - I have a very good friend who moved here from Sweden to sell industrial cleaning equipment/supplies. he knows the cost of the product, and dependent on the size of the sale he can offer a discount to the client. his comm is based on the "profit" in that it's (sales - cost of sales), so he won't offer a discount on small sales but might determine it worthwhile reducing his comm on a larger sale
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: just a contract for sales rep that sets commissions to be based on profit instead of sales volume
fluffypony: I mean, I can understand if there's a fixed CoS and they're calling (CoS - Sales) "profit"
CheckDavid: But it's just a draft
CheckDavid: Dissimulating profits is a pretty straightforward process
chetty: sounds like a bad deal CheckDavid , company can just spend whatever of ads and exec salaries and you get squat
CheckDavid: I was sent a proposal to represent a business in acquiring projects for them on a commission based rewards schedule.
CheckDavid: Who needs to be smart when you can fool a genius?
mircea_popescu: ie, that it's not accidental, but deliberate, as part of a broader govt sponsored industry agreement to keep mobiles weak cryptographically
CheckDavid: How do you map a reason to an expectation?
mircea_popescu: i suspect the reason why good crypto is a hassle on smartphones is exactly what one'd expect.
mircea_popescu: a 1 isn't so hard to get historically.