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pankkake: the French might use Patrie, which is like the motherland but with
a penis
jurov: and _no_ other rounding is done, so the dividend is not
a whole number of satoshi
jurov: where the 500000000 is
a "float" sometimes obscure even for MP himself
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic: for me it's beyond doubt coinbase is scaming with their high risk tx bullshit << he also has
a point.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves:there's no "point" of bitcoin << he has
a point
mike_c: mircea_popescu: did you miss paying out
a small dividend on s.bbet last month?
fluffypony: Out for supper, will catch up in
a bit
mike_c: mm, desktops might have been
a better word choice. and designers do.
mircea_popescu: benkay i didn't fuck
a woman last night, tho she was giving me the fuck me eyes. she had the best ears in the world.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: so it's in that context << you have to include your context in your blogposts. that's why mine end up ungodly long soimetimes, you want
a reader falling on it ten years later to still get
a whole meal.
mircea_popescu: in changing
a functional workstation for
a severely crippled, difficult to use one.
mircea_popescu: Naphex: sorry i meant
a severly limited computer which you can use too buy more apple shit << exactly. in point of fact nobody actually wants an apple anything.
benkay: but client didn't care to pay for
a new stack - would rather throw 4x as much at the old stack.
benkay: cost...too much. probably more than writing
a cms/ecom platform ourselves woulda.
benkay: i worked at
a shop once that charged an ungodly amount of money to migrate another large ecom hustler from magento community to magento pro
benkay: Magento's
a really good example of this. you start
a business selling shit online, you're all "hey magento! it's awesome and does everything i need!" then you want to hire someone to do work on your magento install and lolololololol either you hire kids who are learning php on the fly and they do god knows what to your install or you hire actual magento devs at 400+/hr
benkay: man this story is so familiar. non technical stakeholder dictates that
a particular already-built thinger be used despite knowing nothing about its architecture or code quality or the ability of development teams to work against the existing codebase. thinger is either
a mess or takes 6 months for an individual to come up to speed on the nuances/idiocies of, but project already has thinger built in.
ThickAsThieves: well we have yet to encounter
a team that can assist, finding one is not easy when you have no reliable connections into better breeds of programminig teams
ThickAsThieves: there's more need than you might initially realize for
a customizable education software
bounce: that sort of thing goes best when the code is
a particular kind of stupid: lots of repetition, lots of hooks to revamp.
bounce spent
a few weeks refactoring
a fantastically bad code base. was sort-of fun, if you like
a lot of mindless drudgery. lots of condensing copy/pasted code, but also coming up with interfaces to safely re-do (in less code) what's already there giving the same result with less spaghetti. and then slowly "factor up".
benkay: unless it was designed to do that from the get-go, but from the sounds of it it's kind of
a mess in the first place.
benkay: it's kinda hard to move the custom designd thigner into
a multitenant deploy generally, ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: the idea was to make this software, polish it and add features for 6mos in use for grade school education, then further develop it by making it more robust for other types of training (i have/had clients in areas like haxardous material transportation certs, etc), then once it seems ready, make it
a DIY SaaS monthly fee website thing
pankkake: bounce: lol, yeah. we wanted to start over on our own code for
a project, but it was still manageable, albeit painful
Naphex: then all the problems started, while working in their code base was just
a waste of time
Naphex: it might just be too shitty of
a code+architecture to work productively in
ThickAsThieves: it's for
a family business, but i havent been the manager of it
Naphex: bring in the experts, and
a project manager that has
a history as
a drill sargent
pankkake: there is
a chance the thing is worthless; it might have appeared to work, but there's not much inside
mike_c: two years late on
a one year project is bad management.
ThickAsThieves: "am, who came out in February, is projected to be selected Saturday -- the third day of the NFL draft. Although his marketability is likely to be tied heavily to making
a team and playing well, he has received dozens of endorsement deal offers, which is unprecedented for an expected late-round pick."
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mike_c: davout: well, what i mean is the US doesn't have
a word that they use like russia uses motherland
davout: i mean you're saying english doesn't have
a word for X, where X is
a word, that doesn't sound like you just made it up
davout: that's like saying the french don't have
a word for entrepreneur
mike_c: US doesn't have
a word for motherland though.
ThickAsThieves: "This is
a holiday when all-conquering patriotic force triumphs, when we all feel especially strongly what it means to be true to the Motherland and how important it is to be able to stand up for its interests" "Hurrah!" ~ Guess who said that and when.
pankkake: there's no age to be
a curmudgeon
thestringpuller: i don't want to turn into
a cranky old man this soon like MP
fluffypony: thestringpuller: yes, it's
a stuffed animal :)
ThickAsThieves ponders
a "Buy TAT
a joint" bitcoin tip button for Amsterdam liveblog.
thestringpuller: Wale made
a line just for me "Money got me pulling strings, I got that Geppetto dough"
thestringpuller: "Hold on lemme find my lighter...*lighter sound* The engine in the back of my car, I'm clearly in
a different tax bracket now dawg"
fluffypony: and then we hook it up to
a "listen to bitcoin" style service
bounce: what's medium.com on about this time? don't have
a tablet so I'm too square to access their hipsteriffic site.
fluffypony: Naphex: so push it as
a BIP and get comments on it
Naphex: what i proposed and had
a working example
ThickAsThieves: whats wrong is it doesnt inject
a new point of failure for the NSA to fuck with
mike_c: then you have
a post and
a lively comment section!
fluffypony: ok I'll leave it up and then publish an updated one when I get
a chance
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, don't pull it just because TAT is being
a coinbase shill
princessnell: ThickAsThieves no, of course not. they are
a profit seeking business.
ThickAsThieves: princessnell i dont think "priming" people should be
a concern of coinbase necessarily
princessnell: right. but it does prime people in
a problematic way.
fluffypony: I don't have
a better one, but that's not apt enough
princessnell: i think shaming coinbase et al is appropriate. but i think this is
a structural problem with demand.
mike_c: it's cash in your pocket vs. your bank account. cash in your pocket is
a convience and subject to mugging.
ThickAsThieves: princessnell, but what's the flipside?
a common cure for stupid?
mike_c: "Since Coinbase has had their merchant tools rolled out since December 5th, 2012 it’s safe to say that they’re not
a new startup."
mike_c: yes, i think i'm following, but who cares if
a user <-> coinbase <-> coinbase merchant transaction doesn't scream bitcoin?
ThickAsThieves: yeah my point wa
a customer can make as many sacrfices as they like to protect their own convenieneces
fluffypony: mike_c: I'm speaking to
a specific point ThickAsThieves raised
ThickAsThieves: maybe
a better argument, would be how merchant use of bitcoin is the problem
fluffypony: vs.
a Coinbase customer paying on
a Coinbase merchant site
fluffypony: but they're aware of what's happening and where Bitcoin plays
a role in the payment process
fluffypony: they're presented with
a QR code + Bitcoin URI + address
fluffypony:
a Coinbase user buys something on
a site that uses Bitpay
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: not in and of itself, no - the problem is that they're building
a userbase that is intwined in that ecosystem and will struggle to manage their own wallet
mike_c: kinda like if you treat bitbet as
a last-second bitcoin faucet.
mike_c: coinbase is only
a scam if you treat it like
a daytrading exchange.
ThickAsThieves: because they form
a bitcoin/fiat money-changing service they are the devil?
fluffypony: yes but then I sound like
a Bitpay shill :-P
ThickAsThieves: right now you just sound like
a bitter customer who didnt get his way
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: the article was triggered by
a Bitpay vs. Coinbase discussion on the AMC thread
ThickAsThieves: Well, mostly, you are projecting all your own desires onto
a business
mike_c: it's no berkshire vs bitcoin, but there are some basketball bets totalling
a few bitcoin going now. not too shabby.
BigBitz: This, too, is antithetical to Bitcoin, but also flies in the face of all logic. Why layer the fees on to ordinary users that could be sending Bitcoin to their mom or their sick cousin? Why not let the merchants carry the cost, since they can write the fees off as
a cost-of-doing-business?
fluffypony: BigBitz: ah ok - I'll add that in as
a sidebar
fluffypony: yeah some of those reward systems can be gamed nicely if you're
a big enough spender
bounce: found
a book (pdf, really) by some guy who made
a sport out of gaming airmiles and getting lifetime platinum diamond whatever status
BigBitz: I wouldn't be upset to get
a free pair.