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decimation: yeah mircea, I think you can find a parallel in bitcoin :)

asciilifeform: i actually see a future for machines built of discrete (yes, 74xxx & friends) logic.

mircea_popescu: decimation> 5 years later no one has jumped << wait, the core devs of python, nobody gave a shit about them ?!

decimation: Well, part of the reason is that it has become absurdly expensive to fab a chip

asciilifeform: it isn't even, as people like to think, a 'security' itch

asciilifeform: except when you stop and think about the fact that virtually every 'linux box' is also running a number of embedded turds

decimation: reminds me of the quote from Lawrence of Arabia about hubris: Prince Feisal: There's nothing further here for a warrior. We drive bargains. Old men's work. Young men make wars, and the virtues of war are the virtues of young men. Courage and hope for the future. Then old men make the peace. And the vices of peace are the vices of old men. Mistrust and caution. It must be so.

asciilifeform: decimation: the mere thinkability of this kind of thing, re: a given system, is a sure test for braindamage

gribble: Trilema, the Rift guild pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/trilema-the-rift-guild/>; Rift pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/rift>; A virtual socioeconomic problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/a-virtual-socioeconomic-problem/>

asciilifeform: the familiar science fiction staple, of savages running across a cache of 'technology of the ancients' which still works, and going wild - that's reality.

decimation: the whole USG has become a vehicle to distribute the annual seigniorage

asciilifeform: tales abound, of janitors pulling on a mess of cable to reveal 'pdp-8' drywalled into a broom close oubliette, still running a radar set, etc.

decimation: who cares if your widget works (and is a good price) when you can employ a homeless black man with a Job

asciilifeform: as a condition of major contracts

asciilifeform: re: DoD standards, vdhl - at one point, vendors were required to provide full design - and - guarantee production to a certain date, far in the future

decimation: ?This will make it easier for all of us to consume a wide range of content on our mobile devices, most notably high definition video without frustrating lags or delays,? Cisco Director of Government Affairs Mary Brown wrote.

asciilifeform: therefore the idea is a non-starter, at least if built directly for american market

decimation: heh yeah that's a good point, can't violate USG regs

asciilifeform: decimation: phun phact. it is traditionally illegal in the u.s. to sell a laptop with 100% documented chips.

asciilifeform: the forced mouse use is an especially cruel torment on a portable.

decimation: if you can sell for less than a macbook I think there is a market there

decimation: there's a business opportunity for some up-and-coming Chinese vendor to make inroads in the US market: make a repairable Unix "workstation" laptop

asciilifeform: i rip them out and replace with cheap ssd (yeah they won't last a decade, but a laptop should be considered expendable anyway)

decimation: yeah it's playing with fire. I wish someone would pick this up and make it a real product: http://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop

asciilifeform: decimation: can't bring myself to tolerate a spinning drive in any laptop whatsoever

decimation: yeah that's true, I have a couple 08-09 laptops. I find they eat spinning platter hard drives for some reason

asciilifeform: (where you had to use a 'spudger' and remove layer upon layer just to access the disk)

asciilifeform: partly because apple machine is a serious headache

asciilifeform: i generally think of using a laptop as something to be avoided, if possible.

decimation: yeah that's a good point

decimation: Sun dipped its toe in that water for awhile, but it was a day late and a dollar short

decimation: I heard a theory about this once. In the 90's, most business middle-managment went from being innocent of computers to suddenly owning a winblows box

nubbins`: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.876287569063860.1073741827.307815925911030&type=1&l=96b7490ddb

BingoBoingo: ^ Candidate for a place to open a reading retreat

BingoBoingo: Damn. That actually sounds like a good idea for retreat.

mircea_popescu: "Turning over a new leaf: Italian prisoners will get their sentences reduced by three days for every book they read while in jail"

gribble: Error: "laserkitten" is not a valid command.

gribble: Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command.

gribble: Error: "kitten" is not a valid command.

TheNewDeal: tim-tams i told you I would sponsor 5$ worth for a middle finger dedicated to the COO of butterfly labs

artifexd: jurov: You are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you.

tim-tams: Hey guys, I'm run a Bitcoin website and weekly podcast and we're looking for a sponsor, pm me for more details if you're at all interested

jurov: no that must have been a mistake

artifexd: So, is there a policy about rounding deposits?

davout: pankkake: "killall -HUP isn't a real kill, just a signal" <<< the HUP signal, so?

artifexd: jurov: Can you answer a question about deposits into coinbr?

pankkake: and well, GPG agent is damn useful when you batch sign a lot of things

pankkake: killall -HUP isn't a real kill, just a signal

mircea_popescu: that makes a low amt of sense number

Namworld: or someone else paid a kid to do a short video, for the same reason mentioned above.

Namworld: Maybe he vaguely understands Bitcoin and thinks he's mocking it by being "Look, I'm a kid, I can create money out of thin air too and scam you. See how stupid it is?"

Namworld: Wait it's a video... so it's actually a kid...

davout: he had me at "Fein Coin is a e-currency that in the beginning 1 Fein Coin=$20"

Namworld: >>I came across a idea to make the idea of electronic currency.<<

Namworld: "My name is Ben Fein. I founded Fein Coin with the picture of letting people pay for them the buy gift cards using a mobile app. I came across a idea to make the idea of electronic currency. Enjoy. :)"

davout: "You can give Fein Coins for events such as raking a yard or selling a pencil or more."

mircea_popescu: is it a good thing ?

joecool: this is a gnupg 2.xx issue, gnupg 1.xx didn't have the problem because it didn't use pinentry

davout: joecool: wat? when i use it on servers it works fine, and with OSX everything also goes better than expectation, did you try a Ctrl+L to unfuck the term (untested)

davout: also, for OSX-fags : pbpaste | gpg -a -e -r recipient1 ... -r recipientN -s -u my_key | pbcopy == encrypt+sign clipboard contents

mircea_popescu: a a nm

mircea_popescu: benkay> email threads + encryption -> nightmare << why ? we don't have a problem here do we ?

joecool: maybe someone in here with a better understanding of the inner workings of gnupg can answer this

davout: benkay: no, because GPG uses a proxy key

pankkake: I use multiple destination a lot, actually

davout: CLI -> cat message.txt | gpg -a -e -r member1 ... -r memberN -s -u my_key

joecool: need to have a key for the team to work that way, or encrypt each message with each member's key

joecool: it's a bitch and a half

davout: benkay: it's just a problem with the tool

benkay: how does a distributed team communicate over GPG?

benkay: okay on a different note

bounce: let's write a series then

mircea_popescu: guy;s a talentless hack. you probably have coworkers more talented

mircea_popescu: everyone fancies themselves a comedian these days,

mircea_popescu: it is a pretty good joke

fluffypony: tell him a joke?

davout: do you know how i can easily make a horse laugh ?

fluffypony: I don't think there's an implied problem in that graph, it's more a statement of fact :-P

benkay: "A group of 13-year-old girls from Nelson Mandela Bay's elite Collegiate High School have landed in hot water after being caught sipping vodka and watching a pornographic video - allegedly of one of them having sex with her boyfriend - on a cellphone.

benkay: what a name

fluffypony: then it was like watching a car accident

mircea_popescu: you're such a noob.

fluffypony: actually I have found a place worse than the forums

fluffypony: davout: "MPEx is a scam, and this is one of his shells" <- we forgot to ask him how we're shells

bounce: so garbage hauling is a sound investment, you say? fan of the fun lovin' criminals perchance?

mircea_popescu: (which, btw, is and has been for a while engaged in a standoff with th echinese fleet over some shoals

fluffypony: I say we pick one of these every week, setup a bullshit site, and list it on BitcoinBourse or CryptoStocks

fluffypony: "Whitenoise is like a social network for the music industry."

benkay: yc companies barely out-revenue a single-truck garbage hauling operation.

asciilifeform: 140k barely buys a garbage truck.

asciilifeform: (and, of course, a drink of 'holy water')

bitcoinpete: mike_c: ayup, i know a guy who's going to san fran for 3 months this summer to go through the yc meat processor. it's 6%

mircea_popescu: i dunno how the fuck a fixed % can work

mircea_popescu: mike_c a right you are.

pankkake: isn't quora just a forum where ycombinators derp at each other?

benkay: that's not an acceleration nearly as much as it is a prolonging of imminent demise

bitcoinpete: it's a peter thing

mircea_popescu: let the kids have their free speech, they'll use it for a good purpose whether they want to or not.

mircea_popescu: i wonder what % of the various derps i ask for a quote from, receive a horribly mangled piece of nonsense that I never reply to realise that they fucked up.

jborkl: 'my vagina is my village.' - seen printed on a tshirt, at the university i live near. <1. That is a really big vagina 2. Does that mean they live in vagina village or that they are lesbo? I dont get it