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davout: bounce: if you're already mad, arguing doesn't really sound like
a good idea anyway
davout: pankkake: arguing endlessly without getting mad is
a skill in itself
pankkake: there is actually
a lot of things I want to write in, so it will take
a while, but I want to write it instead of arguing endlessly / being MAD
pankkake: yes, I started
a blog article. and it should start with "I don't hate altcoins, "hate" is
a word used by faggots, I just think they are
a fraud"
davout: dotcoin: don't you also have
a P2P exchange, sort of like localbitcoins?
mircea_popescu: am i fucking confused ? is this bourse thing
a bitcoin exchange or
a bitcoin stock exchange ?
mircea_popescu: what if im going on vacation ? what if i just met
a highschooler with nice tits ?
jurov: dotcoin, also, how you set
a order expiration of 100 days for yourself? why no one other can set it?
mircea_popescu: jurov definitely, i tell you. he's taken
a software package intended for
a penny auction site and hacked it together. it's so fucking obvious. that pseudo "book" could no other way be explained.
dotcoin: the script kiddies here even have no plan to shut down
a wordpress site
dotcoin: davout you have
a mirror yes? look at famous foundation and bitcoin central
davout: "not trying to imply you have
a nice box" <<< lmao
davout: and
a retard with moar css is still
a retard
kakobrekla: not trying to imply you have
a nice box, just saying.
kakobrekla: dotcoin
a scam in
a nice box is still
a scam
dotcoin: hm you needs now what jurov
a order book?
mircea_popescu: jurov basically, he's hacked
a time auction package, sort-of adapted it for "bitcoin stock exchange" ?
benkay:
a carousel is now
a nav bar
davout: dotcoin: maybe, tell them to ask me if they need
a referral code
benkay: dotcoin: is there
a way to see what paper is trading on bourse without signing up?
mircea_popescu: dotcoin forget about yourself, you're
a negligible quantity at this point.
mircea_popescu: dotcoin you know, everyone that's been in here for
a long time knows everyone else.
kakobrekla: jurov
a part of my name sounds like tits and means dick
dotcoin: David Francois you have
a very big mouth with your scam
davout: SO WE PUT
A DICK IN YOUR BUTT, BITCH
davout: mircea_popescu:
a dependency has failed to compute
mircea_popescu: suddenl;y turned around and made it into
a btc exchange because why the fuck not, he's competent and smart and brilliant. or, in the words of today's equivalent,
mircea_popescu:
a yeah, right you are, burnside was derping on ltc with this thing, then when nefario closed down abruptly for unspecified legal reasons one week after declaring he's legally 100% not illegal at the conference where he scammed clueless rms into showing up
davout: "PAS COMMENCER
A JOUER AVEC MES COUILLES HEIN"
mircea_popescu: "you have
a right, provided you don't use it in
a way we didn't foresee or don't like"
mircea_popescu: <davout> i *never* heard about such
a thing << what's that then ?
mircea_popescu: davout the implication is that particular malfunctions of
a broken system are only visible at
a certain height, nothing else
davout: mircea_popescu: are you implying that
a million needs to be spent in legal counsel to have something like that explained ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but you never spent
a million on consel in any fiscal year either.
davout: i *never* heard about such
a thing
mircea_popescu: this is
a game-theoretic asset : they won't say. maybe they are. maybe they aren't. what do you want ?
mircea_popescu: one of the many many COUNTLESS reasons
a businessman absolutely must have
a well read blog at his disposal.
davout: i don't see how it would make sense to drop
a tax-related investigation on frozen corporate assets by having
a shareholder, or general manager, paying money out of his pocket
mircea_popescu: davout he has
a perverse incentive : he knows that you're
a sucker, and would rather pay him than wait.
davout: but from what you say, the taxman, if he has
a claim against the company has an actual incentive to speed things up, assuming he's paying himself *after* his investigation, which would make sense in
a somewhat sane system
mircea_popescu: but considering the state of the dockets, all over the "civilised" world,
a < billion corp stands zero chance to be even noticed.
mircea_popescu: now, if it's
a big company, it can perhaps push for this to resolve.
davout: i'll have
a look at that
mircea_popescu: so now you can sit and look at your 100 euros turning into dust in
a warehouse somewhere.
davout: aah, i guess the part i missed was that it was
a taxman led investigation
davout: afaik the fact that
a liquidator is appointed doesn't mean there's an investigation
mircea_popescu: no, you're right. hes appointed. he takes
a hoinorary.
davout: i may be dead wrong here, never had
a company liquidated :D
davout: in france, as far as i know, if
a company is not solvent, there *must* be
a liquidator appointed
davout: in france, there's usually
a "suit" if the bankruptcy is fraudulent,
a liquidation process goes in front of
a judge as well tho, but it's not really
a lawsuit
mircea_popescu: that's the particular fissure of
a kafkaesque nature i wish to draw your attention to.
mircea_popescu: since it's
a small corp, nobody cares, and it can wait forever.
davout: heard about this
a few times already
mircea_popescu: this is
a civil suit. the judge receives an objection from the state's tax attorney, stating that they consider they're owed five eurocents in fines.
davout: mircea_popescu: never heard about that, the taxman is
a privileged creditor for sure, but how would that work?
mircea_popescu: yes yes i get that, there isn't
a third reich because you live in the poznan forest, rather than on the warta field
davout: mircea_popescu: but one thing to keep in mind is that contrary to all the other exchanges, we never actually touch the fiat being moved aroud, me merely trigger
a transfer between accounts that do not belong to us legally
mircea_popescu: davout i mean as
a corporation selling to natural persons, you may or may not end up in hot water with whatever local tax authority if you don't give them
a vat.
mircea_popescu: which is why when you buy
a pencil in
a shop, the vat shows up on your bill. even if you should have paid it, the shop is not legally allowed to just sell you the pencil
mircea_popescu: davout: it's
a non issue for non-corporate customers, but it might technically be one for corporate ones << im not so sure about that. afaik, most jurisdictions require the provider to collect vat for the customer.
fluffypony: it's impossible because running away with them is not
a loss in the truest sense of the word
fluffypony: "
A TOTAL LOST OF COINS IS IMPOSSIBLE."
mircea_popescu: >I found
a way to generate Bitcoins even faster then every Miner, in
a legal way. the Methode i use whas checked by local Lawyer and is 100% non illegal. << in general, the mark of
a trustworthy doctor or medicine is that it promises to cure 100% whatever health issue you may have, and similarly the mark of competent legal counsel is that they issue 100% non illegalcy certifications
davout: "verility" <<< being
a true man
BingoBoingo: And Fournier's gangerene is
a sign of verility.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Melanoma is
a beauty mark.
mircea_popescu: so mpex is
a scam, and cryptostocks is an exchange. i wonder what melanoma is.
mircea_popescu: "MPEx is
a scam, and this is one of his shells. The owner of MPEx has multiple aliases that he posts boosting his own image. The first post "Peter Lambert" posted on this thread, was
a copy paste they have posted on other security threads before."
fluffypony: Nefario, Ukyo, and TradeFortress walk into
a bar
fluffypony: kakobrekla: btw railzand mentioned to me that TF has cleaned up his forum sig and now has
a BitBet affiliate link in his signature
HeySteve: what does the guy's opinion have to do with ability to run
a business?
kakobrekla: jurov pankkake is just trying to be provocative by being
a pussy
davout: pankkake: "and I'd rather have
a child rapist than
a litecoiner anyway" <<< lmao
kakobrekla: does it make
a difference if you piss or shit in the sewage pankkake ?
pankkake: and I'd rather have
a child rapist than
a litecoiner anyway
kakobrekla: anyway, Luke-Jr now has
a buddy to talk to and exchange the various graphic materials in the foundation
pankkake: "Chinese-American, he was born in Africa; his entrepreneurial parents ran
a flip-flop factory in the Ivory Coast"
kakobrekla: they now have
a dedicated "post your resignation here" thread
davout: we have the same kind of thing in france with the "auto-entrepreneur" setup, the way it works though, is that if you go over the threshold you lose the AE status and are required to create
a different type of corp. which in practice results in the same thing as jurov
davout: it's
a non issue for non-corporate customers, but it might technically be one for corporate ones
davout: VAT applies on our fee, so on 0.59% charged there's
a part that goes in the pocket of the motherland
davout: it's your money deposited in EUR, in your name, and you give us
a mandate to move it around, the mandate is the trick
davout:
a EUR account in your name with our financial partner
davout: khersonus: it's not
a stupid question
khersonus: davout: from bitcoin-central TOS "The PLATFORM allows the CUSTOMER to submit TRADE ORDERS for the purchase or sale of Bitcoins" << probably
a stupid question, but how does VAT not apply to that?