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snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 13:08:11 asciilifeform: btw re ddos -- mircea_popescu i
think yer site also is being dos'd
mircea_popescu: prolly
take years for it
to be surpassed,
too. i guess
there's
that.
mircea_popescu: the extreme poverty of
the contemporary ustard is only comparable
to
the extreme retardation of same.
mircea_popescu: "why buy oak chairs when you aren't going
to do dishes ?"
mircea_popescu earlier stopped at gelateria. nicely furnished. had no
table service and only paper cups. ONE SIZE. no plates, no nothing.
mircea_popescu: sounds kinda fucking stupid and in any case more expensive
than just painting some sheet metal and piking it in
the ground by
the roadside. but
then again if mechanical engineering worked like software "engineering"...
mircea_popescu: and
then what, have legions of gnomes running around painting/erasing
that stop sign in correct perspectives at 20fps ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 12:46:32 asciilifeform:
the 'pc micro revolution' popularized an imho extremely braindamaged concept of what is 'comp lang'. specifically, where folx
think
that
the front syntax is somehow logically glued
to
the internal mechanics ( whereas is merely happenstance, pc provides such broken bedrock abstractions
that forces erry new lang author
to write compiler 'from 0' as if year were 1959, but
this is merely happenstance, rather
than lo
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure every single item i nthat pic was
there 25 years ago also.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: !!key returns one for
the fellow
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 09:21:00 lobbesbot: BingoBoingo:
The operation succeeded.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 22:24:24 asciilifeform: expects
that before long, we'll find out
that
the pythonisms can't in fact be reliably reproduced, because 'ecosystem updated' or whateverthefuck rots
bvt: iirc it is buildable without xmlada and all
the crazy deps with some
tweaks; at least i did build it once and run one of
the examples
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:45:56 spyked: also, I guess
there's also
the fact
that despite all its problems,
there's a pile of CL code (e.g. hunchentoot, cl-irc)
that works... very similarly
to how wordpress does
the job, despite its size and other warts. maybe Ada could also find similar pieces of code for Ada, but
tbh I haven't looked... yet?
mircea_popescu: bvt will have
to believe
this was also a ro piece years ago
mircea_popescu: bvt, just about. btw, if you feel like reimplementing
that use
the hash-seed method
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 18:58:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, did
the fg / kernel
thing ever make sense
to you ?
bvt:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926500 << i
think get your point;
though
tbh, from my reading of linux it's not clear
that urandom uses separate entropy pool, as i understood so far urandom uses
the same pool as random, just ignores all 'entropy' measures (i still did not quite load
that part in head, so
this is not final info).
mircea_popescu: early ro stock
trading in
the 90s used old commie era
telexes. it was quite exciting
bvt: asciilifeform: until
the day for
tcp
to die arrives, you'd still have
to interact with
tcp warts in
that or other form
mircea_popescu: lol
this logger's like ye olde
teletype machines, feeds lines palpably
bvt: on posix, don't
think
there is way out of exposing fds and syscalls
bvt: re pg - yes, you'd have
to implement
the protocol; and serialization/deserialization is error prone and
typically
takes lots of code (i.e.
too much), agreed
bvt: true, but i don't find '80% of cl argument'
too convincing; if want comfort, sure, use cl/python; want hard memory limits and gcc performance, can use ada, it won't be fundamentally dirtier (due
to
tcp and db stuff), just more boilerplate code
bvt: i would actually expect
that pg protocol does not use 0terminated strings. re 80% of CL -- inside of it's implementation you'd find same shit. dunno how it would be different from using heathen libs
bvt: i don't
think
there is a way out of
treating utf8ism as raw bytes, other
than finding a heathen library
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 12:37:27 asciilifeform: i strongly suspect
that 'logtron in ada' would inescapably contain
the proverbial 'buggy 80% reimplementation of common lisp'(tm)
bvt: i did some minor nginx plugin development --
the linked list approach was not bad,
the only op i had
to do with actual buffer was splitting it across chains links
to insert data between.
bvt: re logotron with arbitrary number of messages - can't you send data in a loop? otherwise
the problem
touches all levels of net stack -- can't have arbitrary sized packets either
bvt: well, for most of format strings you know
the number of formatted elements, right. re memory allocator -- an arena allocator is
typically used, and file data can be mmaped
bvt: you still need
to format
the numbers, etc, but for
this can always know upper bound
bvt: asciilifeform: you make a chain (linked list of buffers with content), pass it's head
to kernel
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:05:07 asciilifeform: snsabot and its www end are imho usably snappy, but you can
tell
that
they run in interpreter, visibly slower
than phf's
bvt: asciilifeform: did not
try myself
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:02:10 asciilifeform: diana_coman: principal weakness of ada in re
this problem set (at least
the ada 'specified' by asciilifeform) is stringism handling