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ThickAsThieves: Yes, I have represented ASICMINER depositary receipts and issued, and made whole, a successful bitcoin bond.
ThickAsThieves: They issued an updated prospectus, and afaik, will release updated finanicial projections this week. I am not clear whether they we will include a report of current accounts. I assume it will.
ThickAsThieves: I have no authority to speak for them, but I have helped to deliver their messages
ThickAsThieves: I'm not sure if its actually done anything itself.
ThickAsThieves: Well, Havelock, we are told at least, we purchased by the Panama Fund. It, as far as I can tell, is run by the same person that runs CFIG.
ReutersEmily: mircea_popescu I don't know what nickserv is
ReutersEmily: ThickAsThieves I'd love to hear your thoughts.
ThickAsThieves: ReutersEmily, I can offer some insight on Havelock and Neo, but I am not an official representative for either.
ReutersEmily: so - i just downloaded HexChat and if I just click out of this window, will I be able to put ReutersEmily into "nickname" and have it work?
Duffer1: i mean 'suspect' in the loosest, just pulled that outta my ass, sense
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 that's a point i guess.
ThickAsThieves: I made it
Duffer1: ReutersEmily: who runs havelock? >> The Panama Fund SA (no idea what that means or who's behind it, I suspect Voorhees is related somehow)
mircea_popescu: i make other people's shit work.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm an enabler.
mircea_popescu: <ReutersEmily> oh gosh i can imagine...that would be the fastest way to turn your car into a convertible, hitting a moose <<< bwagaga
nubbins`: anyway, seriously gotta get moving. i've got ten pounds of pork shoulder to cut and grind, two loaves of bread to bake, and a ton of prep work in the studio
nubbins`: i've been considering getting a license, but having friends in rural communities is just as good, in practice
nubbins`: ReutersEmily: yep, i've never paid for any moose meat
ReutersEmily: so i would imagine there's a ton of moose hunting though right?
nubbins`: Duffer1: not sure yet, but i'm thinking roasted potato and maybe asparagus
nubbins`: and as much as i like moose, 1200lbs all at once is a bit too much ;)
ReutersEmily: oh gosh i can imagine...that would be the fastest way to turn your car into a convertible, hitting a moose
ReutersEmily: heh, seriously? i had no idea they were introduced
ReutersEmily: omg i love moose sausage
Duffer1: i'd love to try that
Duffer1: i've never had moose
nubbins`: normally i get roast-style hunks of moose, but they're more like t-bones this time around
Duffer1: i was just reading that one
Namworld: I think Silber was involved in Bitcoin way before SecondMarket thing if I'm not mistaken. Shame he doesn't hang out in the BTC channels.
nubbins`: yah, i've got a busy day too
mircea_popescu: i thought it was just about now or something like that.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu who knows, i stopped keeping up with AM months ago
ReutersEmily: anyway thank you. i really appreciate your time.
ReutersEmily: ok guys....thank you so so much for being so nice to me and answering my questions. i am going to get on the phone in a minute so probably won't be able to pay as much attention in here, but i think i'll stay signed in
nubbins`: nooooo, i never put a satoshi in gox
mircea_popescu: nubbins` tell you what ? a lot of people who i'd think would know better had btc with pirate.
nubbins`: well, i shouldn't say everyone
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily i hear things.
dexX7: i doubt that
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily they're trying, but i think you probably know more in places by now than silbert does
ReutersEmily: yeah i will hang in here. i can't believe 2 hours have gone by since i got to work and this is what i've been doing the whole time - ha!
nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/NrGdYfc.png
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i can't think of any other reason for a document leaker to modify the documents he's leaking.
nubbins`: ReutersEmily: you might be interested to know that the guy who "leaked" the document -- selkis, i think -- actually did the redactions himself
ReutersEmily: i don't remember off teh top of my head what format that was in because it was my colleagues in Japan who took a close look at that
ThickerThanThiev: [23:52] <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves you drew that shit ?! /// Not quite, I modified what Pink Eye created into that version. Maybe one day I'll put up my own portfolio again...
radan: I have a few btc with them, and I'm not sure whether it's secure
mircea_popescu: radan i never used them. people ocasionally call scam but it doesn't usually seem to be the case.
mircea_popescu: chetty that's a cute one. i recently saw a reference to the beanie babies. conveniently failing to mention that this thing's been going for five years, and dropped precipitously three times at least
chetty: I'd love to see the press stick a knife in the "bitcoin is a ponzi" meme
Namworld: I think that's been covered too much, radan.
mircea_popescu: i like gribble's precision at any rate. it was x y z and 45 seconds ago.
Namworld: I haven't met anyone in this channel in person. At least not knowingly. But I haven't attended any Bitcoin related event to start with.
nubbins`: i met people from irc only once in my life, and it was pretty goddamn weird
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily i've met a few, but as a general rule no.
nubbins`: altho i think a fair number of people in here will be hitting up the conference
nubbins`: i've met none of these people in real life, and don't have any plans to
mircea_popescu: of which i doubt very much is traded on any sort of a daily basis.
nubbins`: for example, i don't day trade, and i don't think most others here do either
mircea_popescu: i would agree. there's about a million btc represented here,
ReutersEmily: ok i get it
nubbins`: for example: if 1btc=$1m, i wouldn't need to "cash out" because i could just as easily spend my btc at walmart
ReutersEmily: maybe it's because i haven't seen the matrix
ReutersEmily: i lost you guys on that last little bit
mircea_popescu: nubbins` he said "i shall ponder this over tea"
mircea_popescu: i was actually explaining this to a guy from wired yesterday
nubbins`: i was actually explaining this to my mother yesterday
mircea_popescu: nubbins` fuck, i could have said that. who beat me to the punch ?
ReutersEmily: but of the cases i did cover closely i never saw a defendant i thought was wrongly accused.
nubbins`: "i won't have to"
Namworld: But I haven't had time to think about this topic in details to form a specific or resilient opinion of the matter.
ReutersEmily: mircea_popescu i know. i don't know each of the cases well enough to be able to say they were "all correct"
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/gE8hDnY.jpg
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily i asked for your own call.
Namworld: But at the same time, if you need to work hard to earn through Business, why shouldn't those who have information through working hard not trade on it? Why prevent use of such information? I would perhaps only agree to go against management insider trading in case of catastrophic scenario (undeclared losses/bankruptcy), where management would probably both have ruined the company and
mircea_popescu: i don't, mostly because i can't.
ReutersEmily: so actually mircea_popescu i am sure i can find this on your site too but how do you keep people from insider trading on MPEx?
dexX7: i read it :p
mircea_popescu: dexX7 i do think there's something there myself. just, you know... apparently it also burns.
dexX7: yes, but i really like the idea.
nubbins`: kinda sad i missed out on that
bounce: the name popped up in a wonkblog piece I googled just now; could well be the one I read earlier. name didn't stick, but he got done for insider trading.
mircea_popescu: because i'd likely just start screaming and overturning tables.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily i wouldn't want to be in any board where the ceo goes "well icahn just offered me 50mn, what you guys got"
Namworld: Information on the market is assymetric everywhere else, almost. I don't see why force it for securities.
ReutersEmily: i guess, without offering too much of an opinion since I am a journalist and not supposed to have any, i would add that the markets aren't fair anyway
nubbins`: as an investor, i'd be pretty sore if an officer of the company in which i invested started telling his buddies when to sell
BingoBoingo: I rather hope the SEC decides to be friends http://bitbet.us/bet/790/mpex-to-become-sec-recognized-sro-in-2014/?ref=17sTosfHxNzGD4VUP3pjoHCEVofzSEcL95
Namworld: I think you're thinking of something else.
ReutersEmily: i guess the people who think insider trading shouldn't be illegal argue that if you can work hard for the advantage--ie get contacts inside a company to leak you stuff or whatever, you deserve the competitive advantage?
LordPutin: that's terrible Namworld i feelforyou
nubbins`: i tried to get a local CBC investigative reporter set up w/ pgp
ReutersEmily: bounce I think carney does think that
ReutersEmily: mircea_popescu I would love to do that
bounce: forgot who wrote the piece I remember reading, quick google tells me john carney and dylan matthews said things to that tune not too long ago
mircea_popescu: really if i had to talk to a ws whistleblower, thats what i'd use, or else pgp over email.
Namworld: About 180 BTC, more or less. I would need to check.
ReutersEmily: bounce no i don't mind
Namworld: Well technically I have yet to repay everyone, so, no, that's not yet a fact.