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mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic as far as i know, stamp's problems in our heads all trace to kakobrekla not likeing them, which was a year ago and he never really explained past "i met them and they're fucktarded".
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 i think that's called olestra.
moiety: lol i havent even talked to him for a few days lol
Mats_cd03: i drooled butt grease from bad pizza once
moiety: jurovan* sorry i have no idea why i typed jurov
bounce: bitcoinbourse is the "I SUE YOO" guy, no?
mircea_popescu: i think that makes 5 ?
moiety: CheckDavid: they bring the girls, i infiltrate -assets with cute :D
thestringpuller: I thank you for making my work day during "busy work" from keeping me from going insane.
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid i nearly said "well fuck them", but then i checked myself.
bounce: s/coce/coke/ and I didn't even notice. such a den of corruption.
CheckDavid: That's why I said it's style
mircea_popescu: i'm being journalistic, stop hating.
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: I guess I have to go to ukraine
mircea_popescu: i'd rather give to Worldwide Nude Whoredom Foundation.
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: I think she is from Columbia
CheckDavid: (I come from a country with a lot of prostitutes)
CheckDavid: Yeah now I do
CheckDavid: I didn't know that term that's all
mircea_popescu: i always thought it's quaintly corrupt and thus quite comfortable.
Mats_cd03: i anticipate a tripling of chinese expats in the next ten years
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid actually that's the ukraine, and i'm trying to get a trend going.
cedivad: i'm sporadically working on it
mircea_popescu: kickback culture is about as ingrained as kleenexing in the us, i just can't imagine any context in which it'd have been omitted.
mircea_popescu: i can't for the life of me imagine those firms didn't throw him kickbacks under the table
mircea_popescu: nubbins`:what if i told you... that your investment went straight into the pockets of cypriot marketing firms? << that's only part of it. even should the guy have been fucktarded enough to pay ratecard, which is not entirely impossible, given how well his brain worked otherwise,
cads: I don't know what caused the initial explosion but we thought we fixed it and it popped out again
diametric: if you're having bowden bursting jams I'm guessing an E3D while printing PLA.
diametric: Now I have spare PTC fittings, though I haven't had any jam issues.
diametric: I saw that, did you make sure the PTC teeth didn't break? Every time I've had that happen, PTC teeth broke and the whole fitting was weaker as a result.
cads: I would hope they do
diametric: I was next to him at Makerfaire NYC, its a crazy machine but like $10K USD in cost for a very marginal improvement over a similar $2K machine.
cads: I was thinking feedback loops with sensors reading the filament travel, extrusion rate, or extruder pressure
diametric: Theres a crazy guy, I think his name is Jetguy on various forums, built such a machine though.
diametric: unless I misunderstood what you said
punkman: cads, I wonder why there aren't more people working on adding servo/feedback loops on an extruder
cads: punkman: all in all I like bowden
Apocalyptic: I sent an email in the meantime
punkman: oh never mind, I wasn't looking close enough
cads: already I feel like there's too much sway in the arm and in the printer columns
cads: I'd definitely feel iffy about putting an extruder motor directly on the end of the delta effector arm
cads: I don't know anything other than bowden
punkman: I've been told bowden is a headache, but I wouldn't know
diametric: I'm even using the magnetic ball joints
cads: we can put the extruder out of the space I think
cads: I estimate $200-$300 to have the stuff made
cads: I'm thinking of lasering an acrylic envelope for the whole printer
diametric: I've used giant cardboard boxes as enclosures on parts I had warping issues with
diametric: cads: http://i.imgur.com/xHo4VDX.jpg pic of my lab
diametric: I've been to SeeMeCNC's machine shop, John's a friend of mine
diametric: cads: nice. I'm very familiar with it =)
punkman: cads, cool stuff, haven't had a chance to play with a delta bot. I've built a couple Prusas myself, calibration was kinda impossible though and I had better things to do, so I just got rid of them.
cads: lol, even if I produce failure after failure there are still gonna be the moments where everyone is brilliant!
cads: I was particularly proud of our machine for that
cads: so right now my clients feel too cheap to pay $60 design fee, _and_ they find out how much I ostensibly work.
Mats_cd03: i think charging $100 for every design would serve you well
thestringpuller: As T-Pain would say, "Whatever I send out homie I'm a make back. Put that on my Maybach"
cads: I don't want those minimal customers to sense that, lol
mike_c: i have contracted out many many tasks on hourly and flat-fee basis. both sides have always been happier with flat fee.
cads: for the freemium tier the client gets their design automatically validated by my software - I do that for all prints anyways
nubbins`: aaah i'm fuckin crying watching this video
cads: one thing I notice is that charging people per hour seems to throw them for a loop
cads: ThickAsThieves: I like the flat rate approach!
cads: getting discouraged by my interactions so far would seem to imply I've done everything under the sun and it didn't work, but that's not at all true
cads: yeah, I definitely wanna regroup my efforts and get with some known best approaches
cads: I don't want clients that don't know how to do well for themselves, lol
cads: with the clients I feel like just talking to them about their designs and what it would take to make them makeable means they get expert input without paying a dime, and then they realize they can't afford the job and we're out half an hour worth of email correspondence time.
cads: to be honest I need to learn more about how to structure and price design work
cads: Mats_cd03: I wouldn't bill more than two hours for converting a 2d drawing into a part, say with one round of revision for the client.
Mats_cd03: i think theres a sweet spot for pricing that can still be profitable for a two man operation
cads: they're like "well lemme go back to sketchup and see if I can make a part that you'll say is makeable, thanks"
cads: Mats_cd03: the design service we offer is great - I have 10 years cad experience and so does my partner. And it's a good price - 35 an hour for these low level cusomers (60 for corporate) - and where our corporate client is happy with our prices, the low level clients hate to even think of paying 35 an hour....
cads: I think that's definitely an area to grow in, though.
cads: Haha, I'll keep that in mind!
Mats_cd03: when i do things like that i offer to buy lunch and see them in person
cads: so call random companies that I know develop products, get someone medium level on the phone and then explain something like, "hey I'm cads with shopcoin prototypes, and the reason I'm calling you today is to learn a little bit about how your company currently uses prototypes in its product design phase"
cads: I wanna make a site and push some calls out to some other companies, I just... currently have no idea how to do that efficiently, and every reason to learn how
cads: I've got a small virtual firm, with just one client that gives us a $1K job every couple of weeks
cads: hey guys, where should I learn marketing?
jborkl: Thank you for looking, I need to buy a few and the price controls are tight.
pankkake: jborkl: http://www.outillage-btp.com/fr/p/5257-poste-de-soudage-par-point-gyspot-inverter-bp-lc-s7 … this is the best I can find so far
benkay: oh i can't prove anything, no worries :)
jurov: honestly i dont know
jborkl: but yeah $13 to $7? with pirate was pretty nasty, I thought it was over then
MisterE: I'm gonna take a big GULP
benkay: i think i'm just going to say: 'see this? stop it.'
benkay: i don't really care
pankkake: what I've seen is: people who know each other for years, start a company, struggle a lot but at least they enjoy it
benkay: i hear you.
pankkake: bounce: I know a few companies like that
pankkake: I was fed up with having to fill overpromises I didn't make
benkay: i like smart clients who know nothing about compute.
pankkake: but perhaps I'm jaded by past experiences
pankkake: VanCleef: I don't think many have the funds for it
pankkake: benkay: yeah, he knew how to. which is why I loved working with him: the CSS he was writing made sense. I almost never had to touch it, because it was thought for what was going to be written
VanCleef: i might steal it
pankkake: I worked with a css guy that mastered version control, it's great but indeed rare
VanCleef: i actually like pankkake idea getting paid to troll
benkay: (open to argument on that one. i don't know anything anyways.)
benkay: eh i'm not so hateful about that. it's nice to have a point at which the test branch was merged into master to point at.