cads: I'm sure they did but I've heard nary a one

cads: bounce: yeah, now I wonder about the enemy's opposing cryptoparks

cads: usually I'm less clueless than that but I'll at least not argue based on it :)

cads: I'm not even /claiming/ any kind of historical knowledge :)

cads: haha, the book I refer to was neal stephenson's cryptonomicon

cads: I can't imagine we didn't enjoy the exact same treatment

cads: haha, all I know about what sunk the germans I learned from a fictional account of breaking the Enigma machine

cads: I seriously doubt either of the koreas have higher technical capalities

cads: anyways mircea_popescu I'm glad my argument for heavily doctored NSA papers is not strong. I saw similar arguments claiming the pentagon papers were exactly what the higher ups wanted released, nothing more, nothing less, and those arguments seem cranky

cads: mircea_popescu: also I know you don't like schneier, but for a while he had his "NSA Exploit of the day" that was a near daily analysis of a new exploit from his researches of the leaked documents - here he apparently concludes that with basically saying, I've shown you all these exploits. Now we need to come up with ways to defend against them because not only the NSA will use them, but also criminals and other countries

cads: I would imagine those would be the first to be released if snowden had them, and was hardcore

cads: I think it's reasonable that they would have made study of factors that could legitimately destabilize them, and come up with ways to counter.

cads: the way it's being covered just seems suspicios - the technologies are made to sound super duper scary, almost unimaginable, and nobody I've read is writing any serious counterplans

cads: I mean, you're familiar that QUANTUM is allegedly a massive attack and risk mitigation suite with a huge encyclopedia of attacks and expert systems for deploying them. And that other aspects of the tailored access unit have allegedly done such things as pushing backdoors into cryptoprotocols.

cads: I think that the capabilities being divulged are too over the top and being divulged in a way engineered to make the vast majority of people accept them.

cads: yeah, I suddenly want to read some more criticisms

cads: haha, I suspect that too

cads: I don't like that he suggests a usb key, because usb keys have been penetrated before

cads: I'm being more pessimistic than necessary - his advice is actually about as decent as you can get

cads: and... I'm hoping he really did something better than i'm thinking

cads: my source material is probably the wikipedia article on the military design document I mentioned earlier, instead of the actual document

cads: what I recall was that these punched cards were transfered over by humans, but I remember nothing of how they'd use that to prevent arbitrary content from entering the red system

cads: bounce: hum, I'd like to read that document

cads: mircea_popescu: I know there's a military handbook that describes design of airgapped systems (the red/black system design philosophy)

cads: airgapping bothers me, but the way I'd use it is as a fully offline reference system

cads: I'd be known as that mathematician that hasn't done any actual math, but has a harem of booth babes and has pushed forward the field into the next millenium.

cads: blah I'm going to read that article by extrapolating it from its title

cads: really I know if we just go to a trade show and knock some people unconscious with our sturdy ass prototypes, we'll come away with at least people we can talk to without 99.999% failure

cads: I could always seduce the secretaries as I went along

cads: mircea_popescu: I'm thinking it'll be fun

cads: note how the idea that I compile a list of companies that might need my services and cold call them was like this huge epiphany for me :)

cads: mircea_popescu: I have all the marketing acumen of an aspergers kid.