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mgio_: I just read your article on bitbet to leverage mining delays, very interesting stuff
bounce: I read they did that uhm 10+ years back already. difference here seemed to be they managed to make it a lot smaller again.
danielpbarron: I think i'm really fortunate that I didn't start reading bitcointalk until very recently; i've been completely in the dark about all these potential ways to throw my money away
jurov: asciilifeform: you read the link i posted few days ago?
danielpbarron: i'm not nearly as good at beepboopbitcoin as I am at real Bitcoin
asciilifeform: jurov: something like edison's mercury pump, i believe.
mike_c: i don't get that. must be a personalized result
nubbins`: so i'm googling the name of a zine, i get "a whale" typed in, and autosuggest says "adopt a whale and kill it"
asciilifeform: if embarking on this, get an ion diffusion 2nd stage pump from a university surplus. $100 or so where i live.
mircea_popescu: lol i accomplished all those, but hey. i guess im not the demo
mircea_popescu: I Am The One Percent
mircea_popescu: lol i had like 50 btc out of the 1 i had originally made.
mgio_: i dunno, someone posted it on my facebook wall yesterday
nubbins`: fuck this, i'm getting drunk and listening to blood on the tracks
mgio_: all of us (i was kidding)
mircea_popescu: well i didn't trilema each and every single one of them
jurov: i was running on cardano bet and nobody came
jurov: i'm curious why the effects apply only on mining hardware
pankkake: I will never stop otherwise
pankkake: I need to be banned
danielpbarron: yeah i bought some credits; that's a really cool system
dexx: yes, i have a few :)
mircea_popescu: i think you already have those tho, so all invested.
mircea_popescu: <dexx> how can i invest in knowledge? ;) << trilema credits :D
mgio_: i should have been content to just let my coins sit in my wallet
mgio_: don't get me wrong, i've still done very very well off of bitcoin (and some securities)
mgio_: I hope its not too late
mgio_: yes, I am Duffer1, but I never got around to sending in all my information
dexx: i hope it didn't break you, mgio_
mgio_: I guess there is a slim chance i'll see some money from ukyo.loan...a slim chance neo&bee will get it's act together...
danielpbarron: i know greenaddress.it uses nLockTime
mgio_: people are begging me to delete that thread. As if i could harm Neo&Bee any more :(
the20year2: We've already published our expense spreadsheet to investors, i'm curious how many other bitcoin companies do that too
the20year2: I'm curious too
danielpbarron: i've heard that story
the20year2: I want to know why they had money in gox
danielpbarron: i read one this morning about a noob who didn't realize he was shorting bitcoin.... right before the price spike......
dexx: well, i guess insolvency implies that
mgio_: i realized it was a long term investment
mgio_: i invested in neo&bee when it was first announced, i used my xbond shares
mgio_: well, i'll all done with it for now
the20year2: I'm curious of that too
danielpbarron: you could spend a solid week just reading all the forum posts about all the scams, although I particularly like mircea_popescu's writing on the subject
dexx: mgio_: i didn't expect it either
mgio_: i really expected more from neo & bee.
dexx: how can i invest in knowledge? ;)
danielpbarron: i think the two most valuable investments in Bitcoin are bitcoins and knowledge/networking
mgio_: they chose me cause I posted on the forums and was easy to track down, I assume
mgio_: and then I talked to them again recently
the20year2: And here I am, chugging along buying houses with bitcoin
danielpbarron: I wouldn't talk to them
dexx: nono.. i mean, do you have any idea why they choose you? and when was that?
dexx: if i may ask: why did the sec call you?
danielpbarron: i see they are still selling pre-orders
dexx: what i meant was something like.. say there are 10 people each with 100 btc each.. all coins are sent to a 5-of-10 multisig address. with >= 50 % consensus a business decision is sealed. << for the sake of an example
danielpbarron: I mean that's the logical extreme and it completely defeats the purpose of investing
truffles: i am home bro
danielpbarron: i think there will be a resurgence of scams once the decentralized exchanges go totally live
ozbot: I'm done with Bitcoin Securities...
Namworld: http://i.imgur.com/3e2khf9.jpg
Duffer1: Mircea Popescu i believe a Clinton/Warren ticket would be far more likely
nubbins`: MUDDER I'M STUCK
pankkake: I don't think there's new stuff
mircea_popescu: i recall that page was hilarious a decade ago
nubbins`: i mean, look at the pirate bay. most reviled website in history
mircea_popescu: i believe you.
jborkl: mircea, to go along with your point - I send my kids to private school 6 and 4 years old. The 6 year old can do algebra, multiplication, read, write and knows some of the periodic table < public school peers are very far behind
nubbins`: mircea_popescu trying things isn't required. i have a CS degree even though i only made two working programs during the course of my degree
mircea_popescu: nubbins` indeed. i routinely meet 20somethings who have not actually tried ANYTHING the past decade.
pLambert: heh, good point. I assume it will function without mp?
pLambert: well, say you have some shares of s.mpoe. If mp gets arrested, their price will go down, I think. so if you bet that mp will get arrested, it will offset the loss from your shares?
mircea_popescu: while he does i wanna pontificate on the following theme :
pankkake: it's not that they don't have the funds, I've offered very small bets. it's that they don't even believe themselves
nubbins`: i'm being diplomatic ;D
mircea_popescu: and there was some derpage about s.mpoe falling on the forum if i recall
mircea_popescu: thus if submitter places a 10btc bet he is in effect going "i'm not tryin' to mooch ya"
pLambert: I don't think they allow bets about people getting hurt or killed?
pLambert: I thought the guys at bitcointalk who are so sure MP is going to get dragged across the ocean would like to put some money on it?
nubbins`: pLambert "Consider submitting with substantial paid wager" is a common rejection reason. not sure if there's a cut-and-dry minimum, but i've seen bets with 0.0x btc on either side
pankkake: I like this bet
pankkake: first time I see such rejection
Apocalyptic: dexx, why would I know ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla aha! i wish i remembered what it was supposed to be trading for back in 2012
mircea_popescu: but seriously, i tell you you can't have a new car and you close down the fucking parks in response ?
bounce: I s'pose nobody cared since he got re-elected regardless. oh well.
benkay```: wow how'd i get to three tacks
Namworld: I know about Bitstamp verifications... it's lulzy. They ask for more dox than the government itself or banks.
asciilifeform: this is one of those things where i can't help but think that anyone who pays for it - deserves what he gets
asciilifeform: i've actually seen people describe employing 'programmers' and 'coders' both
asciilifeform: (perhaps i ought to know better than to ask such questions...)
mircea_popescu: irc i dunno, but science often does.
Urushiol: purple, I think
mircea_popescu: i think two unrelated convos became cojoined at the hip here
Urushiol: that's what I thought you meant.
Urushiol: I believe it's in the prospectus, no? It was months ago that I read it last so I can't recall for certain.
Urushiol: mircea_popescu: it would require coding specialists mostly, which we have already. just get volume for each fund in that time frame and apply HIF's percentage returns. I haven't finished my Python quite yet, otherwise I would attack it.
asciilifeform: i think i missed something
pLambert: asciilifeform: I don't think you can just take volume, who knows how much they will take out for expenses?
Urushiol: mircea_popescu: what I find particularly surprising is that it wasn't calculated by the community already, given volume is available through the API
mike_c: i remember that, i'll dig it up. thanks.