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asciilifeform: 'got fish? nope, this is the meat counter. fish is what they don't have at the fish counter.'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the interesting thing is that usg has not succeeded in entirely displacing the native, ethnic 'lotteries'
asciilifeform: quite likely.
asciilifeform: the very same
asciilifeform: i'm told that there is - somewhat lower-tech - traditional 'black on black' sc4mz0r1ng - 'numbers games' run in back alleys, etc.
asciilifeform: demoocracy aha.
asciilifeform: some of the newer browsers, iirc, won't even give him the option of swallowing
asciilifeform: yes, usg succeeded in setting up the situation where every luserplebe's browser will ring bells, flash lights, if a cert didn't come with a hitler signature
asciilifeform: in certain cases, directly
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this is because the browsers are usg projects.
asciilifeform: jurov: what did you have in mind ?
asciilifeform: the traditional party line is 'oh noez you'll be mitm-ed if your browser doesn't refuse self-signed'
asciilifeform: in case anyone needs to be reminded of this - ssl remains a crock of shit - as in, the entire protocol stack is porous and comically maldesigned
asciilifeform: and if a 'luser' won't read or can't remember the genuine fingerprint, and won't write it down, whatever - he has no business owning computer
asciilifeform: elementarily true
asciilifeform: if using the ssl crock of shit at all, being your own signing authority (instead of swallowing the master key bullshit and extortionary fees of the 'authorities') is the only way to go
asciilifeform: perhaps i ought to attend spam school.
asciilifeform: if i knew how to earn bread without leaving home, i would
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: rickjles ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: glad you took some interest in it. take the time later to write some comments?
asciilifeform: sent woman to bed already
asciilifeform: was. probably will soon enough
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes gets it
asciilifeform: but it is not especially hard to set up a chemical reaction that acts as a travelling 'record needle.'
asciilifeform: moving parts (except in the bare minimum of diaphragm) are a no-no.
asciilifeform: good exercise 'for alert reader.'
asciilifeform: point of fact, i think i may have said quite enough just now, such that one may construct it.
asciilifeform: retrieve, develop (as in photograph), extract audio with simple analogue computer.
asciilifeform: ('chemical' in the sense of having no appreciable electrical currents flowing, nor conductors, except in a residual, ionic sense, nor semiconductors, inside.)
asciilifeform: perhaps when i am hanged, it will be manufactured somewhere.
asciilifeform: in my 'death notebook' there is a design for a purely-chemical 'bug'.
asciilifeform: theremin's 'bug' was, from this point of view, sheerly 'martian' technology.
asciilifeform: connecting it to either a tape recorder (no smaller, even in the most 'golden toilet' variant, than an auto pistol) - or to an actual set of headphones on a head.
asciilifeform: rather, it was a microphone, often at least as large as, say, a thimble, and a very long wire
asciilifeform: at that time, a typical 'bug' was not a small 'pill', easily concealed, transmitting (or recording) audio for weeks or months - the way one thinks of them now
asciilifeform: one must appreciate the kind of technological leap it was, in that period
asciilifeform: a somewhat younger, livelier usg had a multitude of copies produced, and used in utmost secrecy, almost immediately after the find.
asciilifeform: there are some historical documents that suggest the original was destroyed by clumsy inspectors.
asciilifeform: or at least a good copy.
asciilifeform: it is kept in a museum, yes.
asciilifeform thought that this was well-known
asciilifeform: !s theremin
asciilifeform: decimation: the original 'rfid', yes
asciilifeform: in the sense of the signal in one direction being a modified, phase-shifted version of the continuous signal in the other.
asciilifeform: in one particular physical system ('passive rfid') one arguably has genuine 'back and forth'
asciilifeform: that is, can pass back-n-forth in something resembling 'real time'
asciilifeform: 'two way' would refer to, e.g., a microwave horn link between two montain top fortresses
asciilifeform: 'one way' in the customary (numbers-station-to-spies) sense
asciilifeform: decimation: i'd classify all 'one way radio' as a single category for purpose of the discussion re: algorithmic basics.
asciilifeform: mark twain's cat'n'rat system, lol
asciilifeform: or pigeon cage.
asciilifeform: console can be connected to tcp or to radio set on valves
asciilifeform: i imagine mpex as consisting of three gurlz, in a box, in shifts, and a console.
asciilifeform: proving the point that stateless, medium-agnostic 'connectionless' comms are the only solid way to go.
asciilifeform: mpex was not the inspiration for my version of the concept, but was the impetus for my coming to believe that it is buildable and worth confessing to people about
asciilifeform: adlai: the way i understand it, we have at least three people right here who came up with very similar - but different in important respects - attempted solutions.
asciilifeform: enjoy
asciilifeform: !s udp
asciilifeform: adlai: must note that it is originally entirely unrelated to mircea_popescu and artifexd's project
asciilifeform: adlai: described it at some length in #b-a at various points in the past month; also in a few comments on mircea_popescu's site.
asciilifeform: 'If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.' (richilieu)
asciilifeform: damn.
asciilifeform: !s six words honest man
asciilifeform does not have a battlefield-ready apparatus to offer
asciilifeform: hypothetical, sadly, bedrock
asciilifeform: aha srsly ?
asciilifeform: (quite pertinent to this evening's thread)
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/w5VYjyBu
asciilifeform: good story before sleep.
asciilifeform is about to sleep, and recommends to friends also about to sleep, to read 'petrified world.'
asciilifeform: (nor an immediate transposability to shortwave/message-in-bottle)
asciilifeform: you will -never- get single-packet friend-or-foe with tcp or tcp-like apparatus.
asciilifeform happens to be a crackpot specializing in the subject of 'abstractions being interchangeably paperable over is a mega-lie, foundations matter forever'
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: good example of clumsy and very threadbare attempt at 'retrofit'
asciilifeform: actually very pertitent
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: transsexuals ?
asciilifeform: decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-01-2015#967274 ☝︎
asciilifeform: if it were so, existing net protocols would suffice...
asciilifeform: it is a grave misconception that 'anything can be retrofitted.'
asciilifeform: decimation: that particular point of contention was about a kind of thing not readily retrofitted.
asciilifeform: shortwave radio, castaway bottles, obelisks.
asciilifeform believes the future to hold many one-way links
asciilifeform: artifexd: for sufficiently simple quanta, it is very easy to 'verify received' without duplicating all the cruft of tcp.
asciilifeform: tcp is hard.
asciilifeform: damnit.
asciilifeform: udp is trivial!
asciilifeform pictured mircea_popescu breaking keyboards, etc
asciilifeform: srsly ?
asciilifeform: ah that.
asciilifeform: which, in this context, place ?
asciilifeform: (triangles)
asciilifeform: like bridge truss.
asciilifeform: it is the inevitable construction that stands.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: (i dare suggest that a node be referred to as 'cell', for extra lulz)
asciilifeform: gossipd proposes a scheme more akin to the traditional 'cell' organizations of revolutions, etc
asciilifeform: well yes. nsa comes inevitably in because you are trusting three strangers whom you know nothing about, to form the circuit.