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mircea_popescu: i guess there's the disconnect. aite.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I invited him in here as he was expressing an interest in investing in crypto-based stocks
mircea_popescu: BohemianHacks so i'm very curious, how did you proceed to come to the idea that mpex and cryptostocks are in any sense tyhe same thing, or in any way comparable ?
fluffypony: I think we're talking in his absence - [11:32:06] <+BohemianHacks> Thanks jurov, im actually about to get to work though :D
mircea_popescu: good cause i think many people don't. to judge by the banks etc at least.
fluffypony: I do
fluffypony: I know, but then the registration info changes
mircea_popescu: one day i'll understand how it works.
mircea_popescu: BohemianHacks: Pretty much, I tend to switch distros and clean up my harddrive tons << either that, or tend to try and social engineer off old dormant cool sounding nicks.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this would be the ideal living arrangement for the true hardware engineer : much like a silkworm's. built a yurt roughly 10 body lengths in diameter, fill it with material slower.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: decimation: no oven. space constraints. perhaps in new flat. << you know stan, i hear 500 bucks buys one quite a few acres of open land in patagonia. and since it never rains... don't even really need a roof.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: folks expecting to play 'doom' on cardano will be disappointed. << you know back i nthe day one way to make the old impossible amiga games playable was to downclock the damned things
mircea_popescu: decimation: sounds like bureau-speak for "we hire idiots and they produce nothing" << bounce disagrees, argue with him, i'd like to watch. ty both :)
mircea_popescu: "unrealized damages" that is to say 'my eyesight was worth 100B, but now i have no eyes, therefore pay me 100B'? << exactly.
mircea_popescu: i doubt the web has reached that deep into the classical antiquity yet/
fluffypony: I have nfi
jurov: no i mean mastercoins as such
fluffypony: I don't see any concrete plans for trading "stock" in the company
jurov: i guess they shorting was "omitted" from mastercoin protocol
fluffypony: jurov: I don't think so
fluffypony: oh wow, I didn't know that we're already on Bitcoin 2.0
jurov: i love when i register for various crap and then get sudden lulzies
Naphex: i'll build up a service and see if we can poke holes in it, dnssec sign each zone, and reverse/point fowards for the addresses
fluffypony: and then let's plz BIP it, I'll do the grunt work of writing the BIP if you're feeling lazy
fluffypony: once everyone reads through this log I'm sure there will be some input
Naphex: i might set up a play service this weekend
fluffypony: so if I send moneyz to naphex@btcxchange.ro
fluffypony: I wonder
Naphex: yeah i know bip70
fluffypony: Naphex: I think this is going to be the preferred solution once it's in common use - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0070.mediawiki
fluffypony: I like the idea
Naphex: i meant someone hopping on your dns server and just setting all addresses to his:p
fluffypony: no wait nm, I just twigged what you meant wrt dns spoofing
BohemianHacks: and I dont run extensions other than RES
BohemianHacks: I dont really worry too much about browser side stuff
fluffypony: "if I have to transfer my coins from CoinBase I do it 1 at a time...it might take a while, but at least you can catch it happening"
BohemianHacks: I thought about going back to the dark side, but its still not worth it
fluffypony: I mean, they have this dodgy extension installed, and then they go and transact on CoinBase
BohemianHacks: naw but I believe it
BohemianHacks: I still can't believe how many people use smartphone wallets thoughf
BohemianHacks: I will wait until i get home to my xubuntu, fully encrypted hard drive though
BohemianHacks: aaah thats exactly what I need
BohemianHacks: So what can I use this key for? why not just generate one with gpg?
BohemianHacks: I would like a single key and a cold storage wallet and then just not worry about it from there. So long as I have a safe place to store some
BohemianHacks: so I am working out the best system for storting my coins and keys
BohemianHacks: I lost some but didn't get robbed or anything
BohemianHacks: I had coins all over the place and stored in unsafe ways
BohemianHacks: Part my delay right now is that I need to be more secure this time
BohemianHacks: I need to get gpg set up again
BohemianHacks: I have been working on a bunch of other projects and I am thinking my payments will largely be in coin
BohemianHacks: I think taxes and other issues may halt them like many other bitcoin atm companies
fluffypony: if you're shorting the stock I suppose cryptostocks is an option
BohemianHacks: I would really like to check these guys out is the main reason http://www.bitcoinkinetics.cc/invest.html
BohemianHacks: I think I'm mostly looking for options that are low risk low yield as crypto already has risk built in
fluffypony: I think the biggest thing is that you have to make a distinction between a fiat-profitable company looking to raise fiat funds, but doing so in BTC for convenience
BohemianHacks: Pretty much, I tend to switch distros and clean up my harddrive tons
BohemianHacks: I like this nick too much :D
BohemianHacks: so I just never used it again
BohemianHacks: I think I fucked up and lost my key
BohemianHacks: I forgot all about it
BohemianHacks: oh hey I used to have a minor rep with gribble
BohemianHacks: then I can repurpose them at no real loss
BohemianHacks: besides I would rather have fpga's to play with at my house
BohemianHacks: I like the idea of investing in real businesses over mining hardware but that seemed pretty hard to find.
joecool: i always wondered about the broadband rating for romania though, is it counting business/residential connections or just average for ip's there
Naphex: https://i.imgur.com/I3Dp3ZC.png my ~8usd home connection
Naphex: i think romania is a bit higher now:P
fluffypony: pankkake: http://i.imgur.com/hFgtAI2.jpg funny man
the20year1: I'm free
decimation: yeah I think the electric hob would give more control anyway
asciilifeform: i use an ordinary electric hob.
decimation: sounds legit. so you have a hot air rework station too I presume?
decimation: I used a syringe, but it got really messy
asciilifeform: decimation: generally i do paste+reflow
asciilifeform: one day i'll actually get a hold of a greenarrays
decimation: I assume that you aren't clocking the thing very high either?
decimation: yeah I would think not
decimation: ascii have you ever used 'qucs'? I played with it a little bit and found it to be pretty neat
asciilifeform: but perhaps this is because i don't do winblows
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet an autorouter 'worth the electrons it's printed on'
decimation: years ago I did some hand routing with orcad. It made me feel like a money trapped in a traveling salesman's trunk
decimation: hehe I figured not
benkay: "unrealized damages" that is to say 'my eyesight was worth 100B, but now i have no eyes, therefore pay me 100B'?
mircea_popescu: i'll make mpex and mpif, not mpcare.
mircea_popescu: why expose yourself so. i'd have never ok'd that stupid shit.
decimation: http://rwcg.wordpress.com/2014/04/23/corrective-glossary/ health care: any arrangement with a corporation in which you send money to them monthly and they sent you a brochure at the beginning, but may or may not pay you anything in return; e.g. ?With Obamacare at least I have health care?
mircea_popescu: i actually talked it over with a couple of people over lunch. it's our considered opinion that the difference between the us and the ro health care systems can be distilled in one very simple point :
mircea_popescu: yeah i was thinking, they want aplenty, it's just they never actually confront it.
decimation: well, I mean "want" as in "want of the actual necessities of life"
mircea_popescu: i kinda appreciate the sentiment tbh. let the devil be free.
decimation: yeah I couldn't figure out wtf he was on about
mircea_popescu: "I think that this agreement, were it feasible, would benefit all concerned."
mircea_popescu: http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2014/04/05/liberalism-schafft-sich-ab/#comment-3630 << i mean check out this shit.
mircea_popescu: you know... i may be the only one.
decimation: I think future historians will call this era "the golden age of mendacity"
decimation: I actually quoted the above from this link: http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/17212/
asciilifeform: mr m & co got a few $mil from vc. i admit that i check back on these folks only in hope of being the first to see when they get sued by a 'diversity' werker for strong typing systems being sexist or whatnot.
mircea_popescu: i recall this exact derpage published by... whatever, some libertard legal blog.
decimation: I guess it's better to have learned and lost than never to have known at all
mircea_popescu: hehe i'm grateful for not having to explain it.