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mike_c: i don't understand why you want to keep the price so close to NAV. This thing is supposed to make money. that is worth something. if you issue shares until price drops to close to nav than the roi will be piddling.
jurov: i don't say the 29k ask is there forever..just till i dust off the bot code
mircea_popescu: alrighty, i'll give you a pass on what looks like a ~0.5% loss so far for may :p
jurov: plus i bought another 167195 shares myself
mircea_popescu: i guess this was too far inzone.
jurov: ok, i get it
mircea_popescu: i won't issue shares unless we're looking at a 105% or something like that.
ThickAsThieves: what i meant was
mike_c: all the pif managers are on the honor system. i assume suspicious behaviors will result in execution by general manager.
jurov: say, i'd open another anon mpex account and trade the mpif with myself from there
mike_c: i don't think jurov is in a different situation than anyone else. BingoBoingo could trade the markets on his own book, hanbot could place bets with her own money, etc.
ThickAsThieves: while you *could* implement programmatic ways to do so, i'm not sure you could hide the suspicious activity totally
jurov: or i can be accused to at least
jurov: but cause i can implement very slightly flawed mm strategy
fluffypony: will happen with my life.I do not have any contact with Ct please HELP"
jurov: well, i now realize my position is a bit problematic, not cause i'm a broker
fluffypony: "Hello. my name Ewelina S. iam from Poland. in 25 of march i make order for Terra miner 2tgh/s for 5.999$ +1.108$ shipping. I am a single mother who raises two children.I borrowed these monay from family and friends for the development of investment btc.At the moment, my financial situation has changed for the worse, and I was forced to resign from the ordered equipment.Please help me recover my money.If I lose these money i dont know what
mircea_popescu: i should hope
mircea_popescu: but yeah i get it, you wanted some numbers to put in a formula
fluffypony: asciilifeform: it takes me a few hours to catch up when I miss stuff (including reading posted links, researching stuff I don't understand, etc.), I don't always have a few hours loose every day, and you know how it goes once you let it slip for a few days - it's easier to just skip the few days you missed
ThickAsThieves: <+ThickAsThieves> i interpreted it as you forcing things
ThickAsThieves: <+ThickAsThieves> well i was pretty sure the 400k ask was you
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I don't need a digest, I have the time to parse the forum, but if I get caught up in things I can imagine I simply wouldn't have the time for it on an ongoing, daily basis
ThickAsThieves: right, so what i meant by support systems for passive investors, might be, having independent investment managers
mircea_popescu: i thought you hated the +m originally >D
asciilifeform: 'what do you mean i have to dip them!'
ThickAsThieves: it removes possibility of being a passive investor in any regard, which i suppose is okay with the right support systems in place
ThickAsThieves: regarding my previous comments on bingoboingo soliciting trade info from others, i guess i kind of see it as the MPEx as the purported/aspiring to be SRO in the space. in that sense i think the long-term view might be to consider whether this is really a best practice, and further whether this channel would ultimately serve as fair info distribution to shareholders
mircea_popescu: mike_c i think it varies a lot over time too. for instance, pc4 is currentl;y very little exposed. but as a lot of bets are med term, 6 months, 1 yr
jurov: yes, i'm going to.. but for not i have to seize the opportunity by hand
ThickAsThieves: if i recall
jurov: mike_c: clients can see mpex receipts, so i can't do any straightforward meddling
mircea_popescu: http://zonadestiri.com/florin-popescu-a-cerut-70-tone-de-pui-pentru-a-le-da-cetatenilor-in-campania-electorala-2012-nitu-i-a-trimis-lui-cazanciuc-referatul-dna-pentru/ << florin popescu guy looks just like fucking karpeles.
mike_c: ok. that's not far off from what happened anyway i believe. couple big blocks sold.
kakobrekla: mike_c btw, i summed the missed ones in a single 470k trade
venzen: ok, i will hangaround and wait for someone i know
Apocalyptic: I heard fico likes to be called that way
mircea_popescu: actually i do, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: jurov for a moment there i thought you may be off on something ungodly like i dunno, a 1st may vacatgion or something
pankkake: informationS is usually how I spot French guys writing in English
pankkake: that was my thought when I saw the pic
mircea_popescu: punkman that's actually quite well matched to market signals. i wonder if anyone'll ever investigate these matters. seems sort-of like a probe in gazprom.
mircea_popescu: I did not. I stayed because I had a family to support, and secondly I wanted to see how far they would
random_cat: and here i thought taake was a lame norwegian black metal band
ozbot: I knew I couldn't build a cat - Everything2.com
asciilifeform: http://everything2.com/title/I+knew+I+couldn%2527t+build+a+cat
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i once lost my watch. the only one time i lost my watch. i was completely wtf'd as to where i could have put the thing ?! or maybe... justmaybe... some handslight actually got it off me and now i'm never going to hear the end of "o lalala i stole mps watch lalala" *whack* ?
asciilifeform: wtf, is this 'the onion'? 'urls abolished?' what'd i wake up do
fluffypony: I'd have loved it if she had two boyfriends who took me out to party, at least I would've had a godo time
mircea_popescu: pankkake well i don't use chrome.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: fluffypony: i could see people who aren't writers/thinkers being perfectly ok with the "cleanliness" of buried urls << yeah, because to the idiot everything that he doesn't grok is dirty.
mircea_popescu: i will burn apple and facebook in urine before i give up the url.
mircea_popescu: "Perhaps URLs are just destined to be an implementation detail that the next generation of users won’t even know exists. Maybe I was crazy to think that URLs were a permanent part of our culture. Still, I’ll miss the damn things. Let’s pour one out for the URL."
mircea_popescu: "I've been a few months there and no problem. If only they allowed btc/usd trading..." uh color me fucking confused. isn't that EXACTLY what bit4x does ?
pankkake: I don't think OpenBSD has the same, and nor does Linux of course
pankkake: I would have to agree on economists being inept at business. not that it's bad, they can be good economists, it's just another domain
numerisTrade: I'll regard that as a compliment
mircea_popescu: numerisTrade if you'll stand the statement, i'll say that this has been an illuminating exercise as to the value of higher education. while you're a trained economist and the average forum dweller is a highschool drop-out, you and them are both about equally inept in business. the one difference is that your higher training allows you to understand what i say, and their lack of education denies them same.
pankkake: nor do I get much lower trade fees on coinbr (0.5 vs. 0.59)
pankkake: well, perhaps, but I can't and don't need those things yet :)
numerisTrade: returning for the while to the competition issue, currently, the main problem is the volume, not too tight competition, as I believe
pankkake: though for my use I don't see much of an advantage vs. trading on B-C directly
pankkake: I should write a "price translator" for X.EUR. perhaps combine it with my existing B-C bot
numerisTrade: I'm all ears
pankkake: which is actually why I'm wondering why Ripple is still a thing with those big exchanges
numerisTrade: I can convert to TheRock, but if this is locked as well...
numerisTrade: then I have a problem
pankkake: mircea_popescu: the IOU is towards the exchange, so I don't really see the issue
numerisTrade: it's the bitstamp IOU. I redeem it at bitstamp and exchange to BTC
mircea_popescu: ok i have to say that is the most obnoxiously stupid thing i heard all year. wtf.
pankkake: I wasn't aware BitstampEUR existed
mircea_popescu: for instance : i would prefer to go live with the goddess of fuck than with some boastful hipster that ~is destined to fail and die~.
mircea_popescu: pankkake i know right ? an even split turns through the meta ear of humanity into an 99.99999% - 0% split. goes to show just how cultivated your average human alive is.
numerisTrade: I know, I know. It's just that we didn't want to focus on the website at first
mircea_popescu: well now that i know you do, yes, lol.
numerisTrade: ok, I wil apply this.
fluffypony: personalnick1 rates numerisTrade "I am one of the operators of numerisTrade", numerisTrade rates personalnick1 "This is one of the operators of this service"
numerisTrade: thanks, fluffypony, great idea! should the numerisTrade WoT account be able to rate personalnick_i as well?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony of all the people i know that lost their cockthread thing whatever you call it, all lost it to a puckered butthole.
mircea_popescu: pankkake well you could have made an arrangement with anyone with an acct in the interim i guess, but srsly : you won't conceivably be locked out of shares, so. nothing to worry about on that score.
pankkake: though I wasn't there after, it wouldn't have mattered, since coinbr seems to be manual in every way
pankkake: I know, I added a hilight on mpif
fluffypony: numerisTrade: there's a solution somewhere in this, I'm just too buggered to figure it out atm :)
mircea_popescu: i can destroy all the shares, and will if price diverges under.
mircea_popescu: i can issue an infinity of shares, and will if price diverges upwards. ☟︎
pankkake: I want to buy some before there's nothing left, for one?
pankkake: I'm surprised a date wouldn't announced in advance either
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: pankkake (and I) were wondering when mpif shares are going to be available?
fluffypony: mad photoshop skillz: http://i.imgur.com/Nb1uRg0.jpg
mircea_popescu: i didn't realise you had a business.
mircea_popescu: "Obama joins a high-powered group of celebs to emphasize the vital role men play in preventing sexual assault " < i had no idea presidents are celebrities nao.
numerisTrade: currently, I'm wywialm, but this nick is also managed by him
fluffypony: from now on I'm going to provide measurements "to the nearest poppyseed, may be off by a few twips"
fluffypony: the two lessons I learnt from that were:
fluffypony: my very first failed company was an events production house I started with a good friend when I was like 20
fluffypony: meh, I've never bought into the "do what you love" bullshit
fluffypony: novel to me - I hadn't thought about content delivery in terms of screen size before
fluffypony: "I think the model will change and you won’t pay for the window of availability. A movie will come out and you will have 17 days, that’s exactly three weekends, which is 95% of the revenue for 98% of movies. On the 18th day, these movies will be available everywhere ubiquitously and you will pay for the size. A movie screen will be $15. A 75” TV will be $4.00. A smartphone will be $1.99."
punkman: wonder if I can get it on demand through Google Docs
fluffypony: I may just go straight to deving on the server