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davout: the way
i understand it, is that there's two cases, either the bankruptcy is considered "normal", or "fraudulent", in the former it's liquidator, in the latter it's liquidator + investigation
davout:
i may be dead wrong here, never had a company liquidated :D
davout: in france, as far as
i know, if a company is not solvent, there *must* be a liquidator appointed
mircea_popescu: that's the particular fissure of a kafkaesque nature
i wish to draw your attention to.
mircea_popescu: but you never get that far.
i know how it goes on your branch, but youy never get to tyhat branch
mircea_popescu: yes yes
i get that, there isn't a third reich because you live in the poznan forest, rather than on the warta field
mircea_popescu:
i wouldn't count on them not doing something such as changing the tax code mid exercise and then insisting you comply.
davout: mircea_popescu: didn't really think about it this way, if the corp. selling coins on BC gets audited they'd be the one getting in trouble,
i hear your point though
mircea_popescu: davout
i mean as a corporation selling to natural persons, you may or may not end up in hot water with whatever local tax authority if you don't give them a vat.
mircea_popescu: jurov: or it's rather F.BUTTCO ? <
i would suspect it'd be X.BUTTCO
davout: "if you were michelle obama
i'd be marginally interested in raking your yard with my pencil"
mircea_popescu: hello guys.
i was told
i can find someone on this internet that can rake my yard
davout:
i would only be half-surprised if the actual business plan turns out to be an investment in feincoin
mircea_popescu: >
I found a way to generate Bitcoins even faster then every Miner, in a legal way. the Methode
i use whas checked by local Lawyer and is 100% non illegal. << in general, the mark of a trustworthy doctor or medicine is that it promises to cure 100% whatever health issue you may have, and similarly the mark of competent legal counsel is that they issue 100% non illegalcy certifications
mircea_popescu: so mpex is a scam, and cryptostocks is an exchange.
i wonder what melanoma is.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> imo
i dont hink btc atm will catch on on the long run << obviously not. but let the circus of irrelevancy have their fun.
pankkake: two,
I googlimaged it. one seems quite young
pankkake:
I'd rather fuck the Bush daughters
pankkake:
I don't think anyone cared for real,
I only learned about who was on the board with the various scandals
davout: pankkake: "and
I'd rather have a child rapist than a litecoiner anyway" <<< lmao
pankkake:
I'm not sure what makes you think that
pankkake: and
I'd rather have a child rapist than a litecoiner anyway
davout: khersonus: BC is not directly involved in X.EUR, however,
I do use it to systematically hedge all X.EUR trades, so the tax/fee link is only indirect
HeySteve: fluffypony, for me it is. if
I ever write on the foundation,
I'll use those lovely scam labels
fluffypony: pankkake:
I think this is the straw that is breaking the camel's back
khersonus: davout: so for your X.EUR future on mpex, if someone wanted EUR though b-c, should bitcoin-central be paying VAT on that? (because as far as
I can tell, there's no fee, so the tax wouldn't come from the fee)
davout: kakobrekla: oh sorry,
i missed that
jurov:
i can avoid it only by supplying an evidence that whatever landed on company account were payments for services delivered to outside EU
jurov: yes, that's why
i wrote 365 days
Apocalyptic: jurov,
I believe it's the running year btw
jurov: yes
i'm supposed to pay VAT once my company oversteps 49k EUR/365 days
khersonus: davout: so if
I sell/buy on bitcoin-central, should someone on one side of the trade technically pay vat?
davout:
i'm still fucking waiting for NAT.ROUTERS
fluffypony:
I'm so sad my S.LIMBS thread got deleted
davout: kakobrekla: no, fuck you,
i like S.LIMBS moar
jurov: kakobrekla: The tax authority distinguishes between bitcoin and Bitcoin. Wow!
I'm so proud of there bureaucrats
jurov: yes,
i think too someone somewhere will certainly hell bent to categorize it somewhere
kakobrekla: >
I found a way to generate Bitcoins even faster then every Miner, in a legal way. the Methode
i use whas checked by local Lawyer and is 100% non illegal.
Apocalyptic: <fluffypony>
I don't know if the Bitcoin ATMs being dropped into Dubai will have lal this AML crap // lol
fluffypony:
I don't know if the Bitcoin ATMs being dropped into Dubai will have lal this AML crap
fluffypony: either way, most of the Bitcoin ATM reviews
I've read have been US-centric
davout: fluffypony: bear in mind that
i'm not really competent when it comes to regulation in the US, my field of expertise is regulation in europe
davout: fluffypony: is bitcoin defined in the "precious Metals, Stones, or Jewels" category?
i believe not
fluffypony: personally
I think it's just a silly way of trying to promote adoption, it's more inconvenient to use than convenient
davout: khersonus: no
i should absolutely not, because as far as
I know european VAT applies on the full amount of sales unless stated otherwise
kakobrekla: imo
i dont hink btc atm will catch on on the long run
pankkake: and yet
I've only commented on a few of his offerings, only to provide a link to a scam accusation or something
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic lol
i gotta love phins' footwork. ask him to come over will you ?
pigeons: no insinuation, but
i hear bruce wagner may run
pigeons: yeah thats what
i was trying to correct
pigeons: he may be guilty,
i don't know, does seem fishy, but it doesn't appear he was convicted
benkay: <mircea_popescu> skinnkavaj on the strength of that answer
i humbly submit // well that's a first
bounce: every time
I look at sun hardware it strikes me that oracle hates their customers. so. much.
fluffypony:
I would like to declare that
I am leaving to go drink and shall return inebriated at a later time. Or tomorrow if not.
random_cat:
i would like to declare that Ukyo owes me 100 USD (as a lower bound)
Diablo-D3:
I feel like
I told him to fuck off too
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3
i thought clinton perm-ragequit after you told him to fuck off.
Diablo-D3:
I thought he perm-ragequit after
I told him to fuck off
kakobrekla:
i guess ukyo cant comment, he is out of tcp packets.
kakobrekla: >>That would be great.
I hope Ukyo disclose more info in the portal.
I remember that Ukyo mentioned there's a new business would be kickstarted this month?
fluffypony: so
I'd hazard that the issue is localised to them
mircea_popescu: from a concerned reader : "say you been to bitcoincharts lately?
i'm concerned about a certificate warning that pops up, disappears, pops up again, no matter what is clicked, and which stops if javascript is disabled."
mircea_popescu: while the philosophy involved may be arguable,
i'm pretty sure that sales of books via ipads and whatnot are counted as ipad revenue, not "books" revenue
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves and srsly push fdor it cause the guild is huge and
i could defo need some help with organising shit
skinnkavaj: ThickAsThieves:
I think mircea_popescu is just spamming here with trolls and insults to everyone trying to have a good discussion. Please stop..
I really liked this channel before
mircea_popescu: "Gabbie Brown @Gabbiebrown · 5h Wishing that everything would just fall into place in every aspect of my life." << check it out,
i'm following the only unique snowflake of brilliant potence on twitter. nyah.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
i guess the one true gain from this discussion is a lesson as to how downing people may be bad for debate and the marketplace of ideas.
mircea_popescu: which is why
i don't get my fuck-obama-daughters-vlog.
mircea_popescu: he has this "
i do not see" device from socialist training in what passes for education these days, and he knows he's supposed to apply it selectively,
skinnkavaj: So far
I fail to see why Asicminer suddenly has become corrupt/dishonest
mircea_popescu:
i am coming to this theory that there are two types of people in the world : the ones whose brain is a train engine, and the ones whose brain is a combustion engine. the former can be readily ideintified by the fact that their mental processes move on tracks, no matter the engine's horsepower.