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BingoBoingo: It is a serious fucking Hearnia
BingoBoingo: As you have to be a diretor to resign from directorship.
BingoBoingo: If he were never a director that would, I think resolve as a "no"
punkman: to resign from a position you must have held the position at some point
punkman: what if Brock never were a director, wouldn't that make for a badbet?
mircea_popescu: punkman is this the same matonis that got kicked out a while back and then went back in ?
assbot: /brockpierce Are you familiar with IRC at all? Would you care to join the /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash-/Bitcoin_Assets channel for a bit of Q and A?
punkman: they sure called him director a lot back then
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: So he can confirm or evade like a slimy chomo piece of shit.
BingoBoingo: Brock is only a rock in the kiddie pool.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: But if they were never directors Brock could also not resign from a directorship?
cazalla: having glossed over director/board member, i bet no as i thought brock the rock was a lock
BingoBoingo: punkman: I put about 0.1 on yes expecting a clusterfuck I could lose.
RagnarDanneskjol: right, it was a shrewd and tactful deciscion
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: Do you have a way to contact Brock for his input?
BingoBoingo: Because several months ago the BTC foundation advertised a board of directors, while now... the advertise a board of members.
BingoBoingo: Welcome to the origins of a cluster fuck.
BingoBoingo: Well... time passes at the moment, key words seem to be resigned and director. MP has a strong position on the word director.
BingoBoingo wonders how long eizodo can try to carry on a conversation in nick changes before angering assbot
RagnarDanneskjol: I'v always enjoyed exploring madness - my mom is a shrink. also helps with honing my profiler/screening skills
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: I had an interupted workflow not that long ago over a Mac SE/30 failure.
X-Rob: I have a pile of TRS-80's, prior to the colour computer.
BingoBoingo: X-Rob: Do you have a favorite "dead" CPU architecture?
mircea_popescu: link to a decent book on the topic in there.
mircea_popescu: a here we go http://trilema.com/2011/jaful-si-economia/
gernika: mircea_popescu ok I think I see your point, though it seems like colonialism within Africa would have been more influential in transferring technology, especially in Rhodesia, from where very few slaves probably originated or to where the educated descendants may have returned. Sierra Leone and Liberia, where a lot of descendants of slaves actually returned to are serious shit holes.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Drunk is not an explanation for a crash in itself
decimation: I thought the whole idea of 'boards' in us corporate law is to create a body that is independent of the management
mircea_popescu: nowadays... one wants to get on the board and this is presumed to make them a "director". over what ? heh.
mircea_popescu: well... the problem is deeper than that. they're already combating sense by changing labels. take the board of directors : one used to have tro be a director first to be on that board.
BingoBoingo: The foundation may be trying to set a trap, where they assume board member should be assumed as a director on the board. In spite of that abusing the definition of both board and director
decimation: yeah an alternative explanation is that the upgrade was actually a downgrade
mircea_popescu: "The three pilots in the cockpit had a combined 10,000 hours of flying time in the C-5, and were backed by two flight engineers with a combined 12,000 hours in the air. "
cazalla: unless bobby lee joined him for a pool party
BingoBoingo: The argument I see in favor of no is largely a lack of resignation.
mircea_popescu: cazalla i am actually seeing a lot of merit in your position.
cazalla: why is bobby lee not still a director then
BingoBoingo: I mean I am no where near as confident on this argument as when I Bitbet lawyered my way to a righteous win on S.DICE vs. S.BBET however this seems to instead harken back to luke-jr's BFL miner.
mircea_popescu: maybe the result ios a "this website is merely informational" disclaimer. as if lol.
mircea_popescu: it can't really be a bad bet retroactively.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To be fair I have great gains to make if the bet is resolved as yes, but... if such resolution makes muppets begin treating web documents as documents of record when they publich and maintain them... that would be a plus.
mircea_popescu: there wasn't a massive chicano diaspora at isabelle's court. how did mexico look /
BingoBoingo: The precendent where Brock looses this bet on web design grounds could set a great precedent
mircea_popescu: imagiune there wasn't a massive african diaspora in the us. how would rhodesia have looked ?
mircea_popescu: (and by any measures it WAS a great nation. greater than say, that-time italy)
BingoBoingo: Honestly an questionable interpretation may be they went from a board of directors to a board of members... odd presentation question, maybe leading to a trap, but totes niggarific
mircea_popescu: that the only point at which anyone notices this is when a bitbet mod tries to close a bitbet bet.
mircea_popescu: s a funny testament to both his and their relative importance
mircea_popescu: im going to have that as a yes, sometime tomorrow. if anyone wants to make an argument... you got about a day.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, here's a rfc. in re this bet : http://bitbet.us/bet/854/ it calls for pierce to be a director. currently as per https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/overview/ he seems to have been silently downgraded to member.
decimation: I read it as a parable about GPG usability
decimation: those cursed sailors on Kronstadt caused a heap of trouble for the whole world
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/let-me-tell-you-a-few-words-about-this-usability-business/
asciilifeform: decimation: lol, what a 'cruiser aurora' that would've been.
mircea_popescu: he was a censor, and as a censor he had the authority to forbid luxury expenditures. which he did, by forbiding some types of textile, which were very expensive, all imported, and wore quickly.
asciilifeform: other detail was that it was done in by a ragged bit of cement on road.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> don't forget the machines and their vendors. various parts with high-threes or low-fours 'MTBF', periodic mandatory maintenance, etc. - churn inventory. <<< would seem to contradict asciilifeform> u.s. presidential car is an infamous laughing-stock - broke down recently in england (?) and they had one hell of a time finding a shop that would attempt repair
decimation: supposedly the constitution forbids forcing citizens to quarter troops, but apparently giving up their livelihoods and ruining their vacations so usg can have a security part is 'ok for them'
mircea_popescu: meanwhile over here, i ran into a chamber minority leader (they have like six) in a coffee shop by the courthouse.
asciilifeform: u.s. presidential car is an infamous laughing-stock - broke down recently in england (?) and they had one hell of a time finding a shop that would attempt repair
decimation: Or load up on any of 100000 trucks who move such cars as a trade (or trains)
mircea_popescu: <decimation> and even though the president has very little personal authority his underlings are more than happy to throw this security party because they each get a part << quite.
asciilifeform: american 'golden toilets' tend to fall into rust if you forget them in a closet for a year.
asciilifeform: people like to laugh at 'golden toilet' - but the latter is potentially heirloom item, will show no detectable wear for a thousand years
decimation: hehe yeah. as one commentator put it (on greenspun's site): "I doubt that Obama (or Bush in his day) even thinks about what kind of travel arrangements are being made on his behalf. It’s the lackeys around them who like to be part of a grand spectacle, compounded by unfettered risk aversion in the federal and MA security apparatus."
decimation: and even though the president has very little personal authority his underlings are more than happy to throw this security party because they each get a part
decimation: yeah that's a good point
asciilifeform: re: story with airplanes: i once saw something quite like this in life. was in wash., d.c., and an entire sixteen or so blocks were barricaded off, no one knew why. some days later, newspapers triumphantly described dick cheney's dinner at a certain restaurant in middle of said place.
decimation: hehe perhaps after a rich prince has funded your secure terminal
mircea_popescu: pets do have a print, for sure.
asciilifeform: this was the kind of smell that varied from room to room in a house.
asciilifeform: decimation: so it wasn't a matter of what kind of animal there was the dung of
mircea_popescu: supposedly this is the most striking quality of a functioning harem.
decimation: usually a bad one if they had pets
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah when I read your comment it brought to mind my youth: my friend's homes each had a different smell which struck me as I entered
nubbins`: ah, care to direct me a bit more than that?
mircea_popescu: and a bunch is like 1k people by now.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's not it. a buncha fuctards have to be hosted somewhere, and they don't carry tents to camp in.
decimation: the guys 'in the loop' with all of this supposed knowledge apparently can't differentiate between luxury resorts in Massachusetts and a third-world hellhole
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo oh but i am aware. and the reason i wake up so chipper & cheerful i nthe mornings is quite a large pile of this, where the oppressed have the key to their freedom in their hand and somehow omitted to going to school the day its use was taught.
mircea_popescu: (such as, the worst thing a contemporary president can do for a disaster area ? travel there.)
mircea_popescu: decimation the point is valid, and people with a clue ocasionaly make it
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why people keep thinking of it in terms of a sort of older us without tablets. it's so reactionary in fact it'd put medieval england to shame.
decimation: Yeah I do see how that throws a wrench in the model. Here's a real-world example: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2014/08/09/obama-and-new-england-aviation-businesses-start-their-vacation/ << greenspun details how Obama travels with an enormous entourage, which usg can't afford - this fact doesn't occur to anyone 'in the loop'
mircea_popescu: for that matter, rome did not have income tax, or consumption tax. it had a capitation, and some trade licensing fees.
mircea_popescu: doesn't this much unknowing throw a hole in your rome model ?
mircea_popescu: i think this may be a flaw of modelling. consider this point : one of the ways nero got a bad reputation was through going out at night and assaulting random people in the street.
mircea_popescu: which means you're quite stuck. but perhaps if you had a question or some statement that could be tested or something ?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=feminine | Feminine means "What pertains to a woman". There are no qualifications. Whatever a woman does is feminine, because they are a woman, and they are doing ...
decimation: I get what you are saying about the cost of information storage and processing being nearly infinite, so it's a foolish idea to begin with. My guess at the "feminine" part was that this bureaucracy imagines it can comprehensively exercise control over the world without a face-to-face confrontation.
mircea_popescu: decimation it's a large topic.
BingoBoingo: The first giant red flag I experienced about grad school in philosophy was that a classmate existed such that they claimed to be an absolute Berkely/Hume Idealist
decimation: hehe I didn't. but you aren't a fan of Aristotle either?
mircea_popescu: the other thing is a convention, the result of nothing but spuriousness.
decimation: mircea_popescu: so you aren't a Platonist?
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal there's a difference between form as you use it and form as used before. yours is the result of everything spurious being taken away, it's the form of livingthings chiseled in a million years of predition and ovulation.
assbot: A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-107351 << this may be of some general interest.
BingoBoingo: The20YearIRCloud: Well, right. You can't give me pyramid, though you can give me pyramids or a pyramid.
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Form and function aren't "things" though. Function is a requirement and form is a structure for implementation.