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bounce: would 'pre-approved for self-qualification' make a decent shirt somehow?
mircea_popescu: the only consideration is if the thing actually costs 18k to make (cars don't really, but the mess of "safety" and "environmental" regulations make the "car" as defined actulaly cost a lot to make)
mircea_popescu: in point of fact people can and do spend 18k just on financing for a car they don't need (either because they live in ny, or because it'd be the 3rd family car etc)
mircea_popescu: re kako's "cost 18k usd" thing : a financial economy has one benefit exactly, and that is, making the price point not a consideration anymore.
thestringpuller: kinda wants to put up a silent treatment and waste my and your time ;)
mircea_popescu: "I had this notion that it would be interesting to meet people from all around the world and show them Galway, but most of the visitors we got were extremely boring eastern Europeans who kept their food in a separate plastic bag and got up early to do yoga."
bounce: also, you're now thoroughly in the "waste of time" bucket by saying the same vapid things five times in a row. of course, our fault. so sorry.
mircea_popescu: "Guilt is sexy. You can really only talk dirty to a person if you have been blessed with guilt."
qq1932: it's okay. Nobody has self-qualified. Without the self-qualification, it 100% sounds like a scam. But then, so would the Watt steam engine.
qq1932: This project is discretionary for me and if I don't find a backer based on this pre-qualificaiton then it is not happening. I have two other outside commitments that are very serious.
qq1932: here's the deal guys. if you google >patents public disclosure< you will see that there are limits to what can be said in a public channel, since I do not plan on entering the manufacturing field of the project. privately after a brief agreement I can and am happy to share 100%. tihs is part of why I need someone who would self-qualify as being able to discriminate and, e.g., understand the Watt steam engine in 1700.
fluffypony: I was hoping for dinner and a show
kakobrekla: (in a gui)
mircea_popescu: then a generation down the road, you get this derpage.
mircea_popescu: now they're all going about calling each other sir and acting as if they're fucking people. it's a sickening display.
mircea_popescu: i would submit that the worst invention of the 20th century was not the a bomb, nor the concentration camp, nor statal racism
qq1932: mircea_popescu: I realize that you have self-qualified above with "no". I do not want to convince you based on appeals to authority, collaborators, third-party things, etc. This is a suitable partnership with someone who would self-qualify as 'yes' to the above question. Thank you however.
qq1932: mircea_popescu: well, I am not in a position to drop my other projects to pursue this discretionary project.
mircea_popescu: you are not in the position to even remotely as a joke consider anything but slavish 100% dedication 16 hours a day with no sundays
mircea_popescu: dude, let me tell you something to help your head calibrate yourself. i recently wrote to a famous illustrator, whose work is celebrated by an actual fanbase and included in successful franchises. he committed, on the basis of that conversation, and the whole thing is costing me bitcoin fractions so far.
qq1932: mircea_popescu: this means, however, that I am at liberty to share 100% of it within hte limits of what IP law permits (as this is a licensing play, like Watt's engine).
mircea_popescu: qq1932 what is a "discretionary project" ?
qq1932: Basically, I agree with you. At any rate anyone who is interested in hearing in this needs to self-qualify as having enough understanding of basic high-school physics that they actually could have understood the Watt steam engine 70 years early, if Watt had described it. If you self-qualify (it sounds, mircea_popescu, that your answer is no) we can discuss. This is a totally discretionary project.
qq1932: mircea_popescu: I agree with what you're saying, and most innovations in, e.g. battery technology, or fusion reactor design, and so forth, are far too difficult for anyone other than a non-expert to evaluate.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the time honored tradition of con artistry << i call this '10th dimension-ism' in honour of a particularly egregious web-based psycholoscamz0r.
qq1932: mircea_popescu: I can understand this but in this particular case the principles are no more advanced (by comparison) than the Watt steam engine at the time. It's a different field, this is an analogy.
qq1932: mircea_popescu: I disagree with you that it always takes much more than "highschool understanding" of any topic to recognize fundamental innovations that eluded people. In fact, this is the reason a lot of people think the "obvious" bar is too low and no patents should be granted . I had someone tell me that there is no fundamental innovation of any kind in the past 200 years that was not "obvious".
fluffypony: I was in a pm with BingoBoingo briefly too
BingoBoingo: qq1932: Why do you need a new nick everytime you come here?
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud tthe problem with it is that it only works one way, and at a fixed speed.
fluffypony: is this a lubrication project?
mircea_popescu: qq1932 dude, there's a major difference between "highschool understanding" of any topic and fundamental understanding of such outstanding quality as to recognise fundamentally correct but contemporaneously obscure advances.
qq1932: Note that energy is a RIPE field for actual scams. This is open to someone self-qualifying as having enough basic high-school physics understanding to see the distinction.
mircea_popescu: and i mean literally. i place a bunch of blonde krautzettes in the shape of my signature on a lawn in which the nda was cut.
qq1932: There is no spam here. I have a remarkable discretionary project. It is open to people who self-qualify as understnading enough high-school physics that, for example, they could have understood the steam engine in 1500. (Or the Watt engine in 1700, 70 years earlier.)
qq1932: I asked you to self-qualify on a basic physics level in PM. Depending on your answer, may have an interesting proposition for you. Unlike the two outside ventures, I am acutally prepared to share 100% of this (privately, due to IP considerations) because it is a discretionary project for me.
mircea_popescu: that was more like "ok we're screwed, how do we pretend this wasn't a terrible mistake"
BingoBoingo: I was under the impression the board wanted to turn "IBM" hence a few years of Sears selling "Mac Clones"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ousted by engineers? afaik it was his immediate subordinates who coordinated his ouster, a la khruschev
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: herr jobs is credited with resurrecting the company, but he actually strangled it and turned the taxidermied skin into a kind of animatronic dinosaur.
mircea_popescu: i'd have fired them all too, and impaled a few, extra.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: steve jobs - as described in my 'hypercard' piece - was a master of chumpatronics, not of electronics. when he returned from exile, he zapped pretty much all r&d personnel, killed every project, smart or foolish, replaced all apple tech with repainted 'next'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bad example, 'pi' is a pseudo-open turd
mircea_popescu: there should not have existed a raspberry pi if apple had a twinkle of a clue.
mircea_popescu: instead of selling diy robots and wall attachment accessories, they tried to make money selling a longer proprietary power cable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hook it with any number of tablets and watch a film with your friends << verboten, order of usg dept. of copyrasty (riaa/mpaa/etc)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes and that has a very faint but almost identifiable personality.
hanbot: not much of a lesson there.
ben_vulpes: i want a portable compute object that plugs into the work station, home station, robot-grocery-carrying-thing
mircea_popescu: the tablet being basically a portable head to attach to anything you want.
mircea_popescu: make the tablet so you can put it into a robot. make your own dog, make your own buzz lightyear, make your own fucktoy.
mircea_popescu: make the tablet so you can hook it with any number of tablets and watch a film with your friends.
mircea_popescu: honestly i think tablets will suffer a foss revival much like the pc did.
mircea_popescu: the thing is such a waste. if it weren't made by idiots it could have been surprisinglky cool.
The20YearIRCloud: i had a iphone for about a month
ben_vulpes remembers when macos skinning was a thing
The20YearIRCloud: is there a bitbet yet for more NFL beatings?
mircea_popescu: browsers are notably going very far on this basic line, with a "your css" rather than "website's css" approach
mircea_popescu: the interface is called interface for a reason, and to specify it as part of the product is akin to the peacock coming with a set of eyes to look at it with.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the solution to the "gui problem" is not to resolve the gui problem but to let it resolve itself. whoever wants a different gui should be supported to make it. skins are too little too high up, but still the right idea.
mircea_popescu: to the degree someone had to make a proper nongui interface.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla depending what you mean by "gui" in that snese, cli is a gui. itdoesn't make beeps after all.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There probably a label used for that condition somewhere in the USG, something as an analogue to the soviet "Slowly Progressing Schizophrenia"
mircea_popescu: ericans who will grow up with a lower standard of living than their parents enjoyed."
mircea_popescu: "Generals and military scholars will tell you that eight or 10 years is actually not such a long time in the span of human history -- which is no doubt true -- but history also tells us that 10 years of martial law and a war-time economy are going to feel like a Lifetime to people who are in their twenties today. The poor bastards of what will forever be known as Generation Z are doomed to be the first generation of Am
mircea_popescu: germany is such a hellhole for monopolistic cab practices
asciilifeform: /me confesses that he liked it. and recently dug up a mac laptop circa 1999, and enjoyed playing with it.
kakobrekla: ok then, no ui, <mircea_popescu> in a "better design" sense
mircea_popescu: and it didn't die because it was either a bad product or badly packaged.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: current 'mac os' product is actually 'nextstep' with a new graphical skin.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is a natural phenomenon.
mircea_popescu: electricity isn't a product even if it isn't a company.
kakobrekla: none of those are a company
kakobrekla: bitcoin is a product as early mac is a product
mircea_popescu: and in 2011 bitcoin was the superior tech solution to a wet sock.
kakobrekla: also the problem with apple example: bitcoin had a market cap of only a few grand or w/e in 2011. despite being the superior tech solution.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic you don't have to pay to be on b-a yet.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic so then you know a lot about romanian, same latin structure and very close use of voice
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: I can speak it well enough to order a beer, buy groceries, and insult the locals, with a halfway bastardized accent between parisian and quebecois, and I can hear it enough to get about 70% of radio broadcasts and conversational (polite) parisian french, and about 30% of slangy quebecois..
asciilifeform: rithm: II/e - not a mac
BingoBoingo: mike_c: It's a discovery that ESPN still has this stuff online.
rithm: i know how to open terminal on a mac, though...so that's one thing it has going for it
mike_c: BingoBoingo: is this a new discovery for you? I used to love it when HST was writing for page 2
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla all i need to dispel a universal negative is one example :)
mircea_popescu: early pcs were a nightmare
mircea_popescu: in a "better design" sense
rithm: my ubuntu desktop just took a total shit from 12.04 to 14.04 and do-release-upgrade
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: package being what? ui? in a way, they did. recall why ibm pc - similarly costly - ran over the early macs, despite technical inferiority in every sense.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i just made a passing remark :) the way the stupid youth ends up apt is through running into these scattered about.
mircea_popescu: takes a shower pretends to be 16 again.
mircea_popescu: its defense comes from exactly this flexibility, it's basically a hardened whore. you can abuse it any way you please, for as long as you please,
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: It is universal; some languages are resistant to it, for various reasons. There are some theories on that based around a language's resilience and flexibility, but I thought the population speaking Romanian was large enough to preserve it. It's pretty unfortunate if that's not so. :(
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic this is a universal phenomenon, since the media heavily favours the more easily influenced members of a population, and they tend to be young, the media discourse then tends to focus on the linguistic abilities of noob speakers.
kakobrekla: as sad as it might be, i dont think a nice package ever hurt a good product?
mircea_popescu: oh, also, let's do a Romanian Surprisingly Sucks! show. so, romanian does not distinguish between niece (nepoata) and grand daughter (nepoata).
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: people fucking the same woman also share a relationship << 'milk brothers' where i come from << Around these parts the term Eskimo Brother is used
mircea_popescu: i dun particularly wish to learn how to give a very convincing representation of success for a very brief interval.
mircea_popescu: a decade ago digg was doing everything reddit is doing today and "winning"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: people fucking the same woman also share a relationship << 'milk brothers' where i come from
mircea_popescu: so there's a town of sogortiz.