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hdbuck: benkay: ah i know you guys think of it as gold 2.0 which is not meant for the average joe to come around with but i am just not sure how this will all play out. :/
Namworld: I'm somewhat expecting the blockchain size to eventually become negligible.
diametric: though I've never tried any of the bootstrap methods
diametric: I have to admit, its annoying getting a fresh copy of the blockchain in a new client, even though I have the space, and I have 75Mbit internet, it still takes over 2 days.
hdbuck: saw pretty pessimistic articles about that matter regarding the long run of Bitcoin. plus those core devs seem not to have a clue about what's going to happen - so i figured.. you guys should know better! ^^
hdbuck: benkay its not my personnal storing that i am concerned with. i am just wondering if this issue wont harm bitcoin on the long run.
benkay: hdbuck: there's also SPV, but I'm not entirely certain how that actually works.
Namworld: Ah, I see the part about Sapphire. The answer would be informative indeed.
hdbuck: mircea_popescu hello MP, thx for the voice up, i came here with the hope you could help me apprehend that blockchain size issue (& considering it is an issue). been reading tons of articles about that and people talks about 'industrial' supernodes and/or 'restructuring' Bitcoin.. cant make up my mind whether thats good or bad tho. any inputs? :)
Namworld: Eheheh, I was looking at that part on wikipedia, reading up on FDSOI. Wondering what's the point of it if it's an expensive process.
Namworld: So where was I in my half-asleep/half-daydreaming hypothetical nonsense scenarios?
mircea_popescu: i got it. that's not really a usecase th
punkman: I did a later tell
punkman: what I'm describing is more like escrow than oracle I guess
punkman: I think if bitbet provided an oracle service that might be handy for building things on, but I'm not about to trust some random dude's oracle
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: y'know, i think bitcoin has actually soured my opinion of the concept of an "idea" << actual business experience in the company of actual business people has soured you on infantile bullcrap. neither bitcoin nor ideas particularly involved.
pankkake: I like Amazon for delivering physical items, they do it very well
mircea_popescu: mike_c: idk, i'm not in the 'everything should be free' camp. << but the camp is "nothing should be amazon"
mike_c: i'm not worried about fraud, more like bad decisions.
mike_c: it probably has good uses, but i wouldn't like bitbets decided by a vote.
dignork: mike_c: i think it's possible to make a multisig fund, where each oracle op drops some funds, these funds are deal insurance, but I didn't think it through completely
mircea_popescu: a decade back they introduced .ro, ie, for romania. i laughed at them then, i'm still laughi8ng at them
mircea_popescu: jurov: he typed "viki" << i typed viki and nothing happened
dignork: o dog, i know why the term looked familiar, mircea_popescu - forum cookies: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/xcp-ipo-announcement-dunnecapital-ltd-uk-bitcoin-exchange-and-a-casino.304299/
benkay: i had an idea: buy a datacenter in argentina.
nubbins`: and i'm automatically uninterested
nubbins`: "i had an idea the other day"
nubbins`: but i look at it a different way now
nubbins`: y'know, i think bitcoin has actually soured my opinion of the concept of an "idea"
pankkake: I can save them if I want to, and it's not trying to forbid it
pankkake: I buy stuff I can own
mike_c: idk, i'm not in the 'everything should be free' camp.
pankkake: http://wikisend.com/download/960424/ first time I use the thing, tell me if it doesn't work
benkay: pankkake: i'm interested.
mike_c: it moves around a lot when i click the client boxes
benkay: dorp i didn't see the "kindle 3 dollars" button
pankkake: I have an un-drmed azw3 for the interested. can be easily converted to epub
pankkake: "our works" works, but not clicking on tozny. I don't see why that couldn't be possible
fluffypony: I'm sure people would buy shares like crazy if you issue them as colored coins (if the idea is good)."
Mats_cd03: what am i looking at
mike_c: i don't do contract work. i've got some other insurance covering me, D&O or something
benkay: i'm calling it a business expense. the business buys all sorts of stupid fiat scams all the time.
benkay: i hate these four-hour-fuckers
benkay: 3000 words, once per year. that's a pace i could sustain...
benkay: skimpy logs. mike_c i'm taking a page out of your book and reading berkshire letters over coffee...
mike_c: "i'm feeling lucky" ftw
jurov: i was explaining to him whatvV "wiki" is
jurov: i succeeded making my boss to
benkay: i'm just messing with you, jurov. i've never actually succeeded in piping hookers over the internet.
dignork: benkay: for me it resolves to 54.247.173.21, no whores, only siren. what am i doing wrong?
benkay: all i get is whores
benkay: no man i swear there's something weird in the dns
benkay: dunno jurov, every time i go to pull up coinbr...prostitutes.
fluffypony: well I'm trying to lose weight, but I suppose you could call me a round
gribble: Sent 2 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <bitcoinpete> have a couple of the lealana physical coins (2x10, 2x25) but i'm having a hard time figuring out what they're worth. could you point me in the right direction?
pankkake: ;;notes nubbins`i
gribble: Sent 3 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, and 9 minutes ago: <jurov> chan clamors for -assets tshirt i recommend the disck surgery motive and Sent 2 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <bitcoinpete> i have a couple of the lealana physical coins (2x10, 2x25) but i'm having a hard time figuring out what they're worth. could you point me in the right direction?
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, benkay, bitcoingirl, cevidad, congrats, davout, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, moiety, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, ryepdx, and ThickAsThieves.
nubbins`: so which of you has been leaving ;;later tells for "nubbins" and "nubbins`i"
nubbins`: not bad, backing up & wiping my iphone so i can send it in for replacement
fluffypony: I already said I was proslimbs_inc
fluffypony: I really enjoyed that
pankkake: and it is in the strong set. I guess I could get in there by signing the old key in the other direction
pankkake: (though my old key was signed by a person I've known for years)
pankkake: perhaps I could let other anonymouses I met IRL sign me, but how do they check I am myself?!
pankkake: I'd rather not sign it, pankkake is an anonymous entity
pankkake: I'm in it with other key(s) :)
mircea_popescu: but... i thought he already had it etc
mircea_popescu: (i am in the strong set. are you ?)
joesmoe: i was thinking about heading down there about 6 months ago before all the china stuff blrew up
joesmoe: nah i just wanted to join in the convo
mircea_popescu: lol ok i'll stfu with namworld's 1800s ideas about the brain, jurov handed him his ass pretty admirably :D
Namworld: So goodnight everyone, I'll go before I spout out too much more nonsense.
Namworld: It's 5:50 am, I need sleep, and I'm vastly out of topic for this channel I think, mostly rambling and talking to myself.
Namworld: I'm sure if you could simulate the whole of the system running your 100-byte asm programs, you'd be able to determine when it would eventually finish.
Namworld: It's a very small amount of matter compared to the universe. I'd assume we can refine technology close enough to simulate it accurately, or almost, given the resources out there.
punkman: I have a working reddit brain simulator
Namworld: Well I'd be a bit surprised, but yes. That's always possible.
Namworld: Well, I guess, but to predict that accurately, wouldn't I need to accurately simulate all brains in the world, including the Earth and all stellar input that affect those brains?
punkman: jurov, I'd guess it can
Namworld: I never said we were there yet. The brain is extremely complex. So many molecules of all kinds, complex structures.
jurov: do we really have such machines? i don't think so
Namworld: Yes, I didn't mean mechanical in that fashion. More that chemical reactions are akin to machines. Although I guess it's not good practice to speak casually like that.
Namworld: I was more hinting about technology eventually reaching brain control chip level and the technology being applied to everyone. Because let's face it 1. The brain is mechanical 2. You can control just about any sort of machine given the time to develop the approriate tools 3. Someone at some point in time will try to get it installed on everyone for selfish purposes.
Namworld: I really hope the "mentally ill" group doesn't include the whole Earth population
jurov: pankkake: i really hope these electrodes end up as ignobel candidates, too
fluffypony: I was just quoting Derek Zoolander - ban HIM from Twitter!
Namworld: So I'm well aware of those issues... but not everyone will run proper background checks.
Namworld: If there's no criminal record, it's good enough. Notice I said the real world didn't care about REALITY.
fluffypony: Namworld: I think that a starting point would be historicity
Namworld: That's the most logical explanation I can find, and it's not very logical, but eh.
cazalla: i've already bet yes so i'll pass
TheNewDeal: http://media1.onsugar.com/files/2013/09/24/087/n/1922398/7d58b88d6672e166_thumb_temp35398911380070601/i/Claire-Danes-Homeland-Premiere-Video.jpg
TheNewDeal: that's kinda neat that all mpex people can create i.diff futures
thestringpuller: oh i guess 11:59 on 6/18
TheNewDeal: I've got the diff change happening around 06:00 on 6/18 GMT time
thestringpuller: i'm also one of the few people here who's fiat cashflow > crypto cash flow
thestringpuller: i don't use mpex
TheNewDeal: I felt the desire to take a risk with an a decent amount of my capital on something that actually can be calculated easily
TheNewDeal: oh, I'm not on mpex unfortunately