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PeterL: http://blog.btcscoop.com/use-code-xbt-not-btc-for-bitcoins/ and yes I see the irony of posting this on a website starting with btc
thickasthieves: dignork thats what remittance is, paying a fee to transport money via a 3rd party
los_pantalones: ever seen someone exchange .00001% of their home for a piece of pie ?
los_pantalones: thickasthieves why do ppl think you should exchange a provably finite asset for something like a ham sandwich
nubbins`: thickasthieves casascius coins are essentially a closed loop, albeit not a very good example
nubbins`: i found a piece of paper yesterday that said "1:30pm tuesday oct 7" and i can't remember if i'm supposed to be meeting someone here or not
thickasthieves: generally i subscribe to the belief that all extremes and ideals are only achievable for a moment at best, and that a robust/sustainable approach to theory and design is better
dignork: dbolser: re alt-coins << there may be a lot of failure modes, but here is a good general explanation: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/the-problem-with-altcoins/
ben_vulpes: it's always a store of value, and it's always a method of transacting value.
dbolser: if price gets higher, is it a store of value?
dbolser: ben_vulpes: yeah, I'm vague there too... like if the price stays really low, it's still a tool for international trade
dbolser: is there a set of functions it performs as cost enters certain ranges?
thickasthieves: price isnt a force, it is a measurement
bounce: so easiest there would be to put a good push behind supporting more phones (like some nokia models from back when they were respectable)
thickasthieves: the problem i have with the point is it acts like price is a driver of anything but speculation
dbolser: or is a low price not worth attacking?
dbolser: thickasthieves: I don't argue that the two are related in a complex way, but I wonder if there is a lower bound on price whereby mining 'colapses'
thickasthieves: also keep in mind that mining costs as reported by reddit etc, are just a snapshot of what can be seen, there have been private operations implementing their own chips for a while now
thickasthieves: dbolser while price and mining have a relationship, it is not in sync necessarily
bounce: how hard is it to build a (simple, "feature") phone with fully-controlled firmware including the wireless interface side?
dbolser: working on a counter to the argument that bitcoin price is important if it falls below a certain threshold where the cost of securing the network is 'too high'
nubbins`: but there's a modicum of solace in the fact that other people are similarly confused, no?
assbot: The SIM card is a full featured computer. It has memory, a CPU, and your telco ... | Hacker News
nubbins`: braised a pork shoulder last night
bounce: gribble is such a quitter
danielpbarron: how can people say irc isn't "real life?" It has a way to let them storm out all pouty
thickasthieves: Note that it's ironic that I actually made this purchase by mistake because I thought the "Deposit" button meant , yknow, depositing funds, not exchanging currencies. Your system of dollarifying all numbers is obnoxious. Let people type in bitcoin amounts and understand it as a separate currency. You're just confusing things."
nubbins`: also A+++ would cash out via again
thickasthieves: it's canceled but that's much too substantive a word for a rep to use
nubbins`: i did the full gamut w/ my circle account, A+++ would buy satoshis from again
BingoBoingo: No need for a symbol. BTC is fine. People build friendly 'nugh interfaces with BTC
fluffypony: it looks like a B getting probed analy
fluffypony: tbh, Ƀ is a stupid symbol
nubbins`: ask me again if/when a standard US keyboard includes a B⃦, ฿, or Ƀ symbol
nubbins`: that's the look of a man who fucked you in the ass
nubbins`: so i click a gop.com link that was posted in this channel
thickasthieves: be a real writer and write from Androad with autocorrect
BingoBoingo: Maybe I need to stop bashing my hand with the OED when I typo and find a correction that doesn't affect the typing hands.
thickasthieves: http://imgur.com/a/6rk2e
assbot: Government Set Up A Fake Facebook Page In This Woman’s Name
thickasthieves: but arent there other precedents saying a website owner isnt responsible for the crimes commited by users of it?
thickasthieves: like how can a foreign website be illegal?
bounce: kinda interesting though, that though it's mostly a dead letter these days over there, you're supposedly still innocent until proven guilty (or badgered into pleading guilty, which they're very good at and do a lot), but that it doesn't go at all for things, like websites. "blatant illegal website!" -- oh, is it? how'd you know that?
thickasthieves: criminal evidence, for which a warrant was not necessary ."
thickasthieves: "SR Server needed only to be “reasonable” – that is, justified by “legitimate governmental interests.” Vilar, 729 F.3d at 86. Given that the SR Server was hosting a blatantly criminal website, it would have been reasonable for the FBI to “hack” into it in order to search it, as any such “hack” would simply have constituted a search of foreign property known to contain
thickasthieves: like, if you got a server we dont like, hacking you is fair game
thickasthieves: isnt there a greater problem where if the gov did inject code to make the server leak, that this precedent would now allow such action the future
thickasthieves: "As a threshold matter, the declaration does not establish that Ulbricht had a reasonable
startup2`isninja: I'll be back tonight. I may have another offer for people, it would be a 1-year position and primarily of interest to people who want a hedge against price movements against them. My previous offers were not closed via -assets or -otc. (No transactions done.) the total size of the offering would be up to 100 coins, US legal system and contracts, and approximately 2 weeks from now until wire (or transfer.)
mircea_popescu: the very point of qntra is for there to not be a distance between truth, as represented here, and news.
mircea_popescu: sgornick why would it want a difdferent one ?
punkman: I guess guy was talking about datacenters or something "a high-end user's connection speed grows by 50% per year"
pete_dushenski: …rock-a-by slavegirl… in the treetop… when the wind blows… you'll suck on my cock…
mircea_popescu: i am a fourth in and nobody can sleep because of you
pete_dushenski: decimation: what I find amusing is that the lefties don't get that they are in a relgious war because they don't even realize that what they are derping about is metaphysics << definitely amusing. though you have to figure that *some* know the equalitarianism can't be measured.
mircea_popescu: got a link ?
mircea_popescu: "unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better, you rot!"
mircea_popescu: "unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better - you're rot"
assbot: Logged on 16-07-2014 18:55:26; asciilifeform: as i understand, the term originally applied to brands of optical rifle sight designed to withstand the field (water, whacking over enemy's head, etc.) vs ones that only need to survive a leisurely duck hunt
asciilifeform: no amount of environmentalism << 'unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better - it's not...'
asciilifeform: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd << for a start
asciilifeform just spent four hours ripping poettering out of what appeared to be a perfectly sanitary gentoo, is mighty pissed
mircea_popescu: a much better story would be something like, "company ordered parts, submitted proper importation documents, had them confiscated at border "
mircea_popescu: well or a mockery thereof.
asciilifeform: it's a specially-constructed stilted, official language.
asciilifeform: charge capacitors in an ac circuit << great fun when you're a kid
mircea_popescu: because cloudflare, as any other usg product, can never be a failful piece of shit that doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: i';d have left a link on their blog but of course.... cloudflare claims the host is broken
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: This is very true about the large blocks working against security. Throw it up there as a comment.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2014#574604 << i can't believe this fucktard actually came back under a new name but referenced his old persona. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: <WolfGoethe> once bitcoin "closes the circle" then it shall be a true competitor to the usd << what do you mean by "closing the circle"?
assbot: A compendium of basic points about Bitcoin for the benefit of various confused noobs. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: sauce : http://trilema.com/2014/a-compendium-of-basic-points-about-bitcoin-for-the-benefit-of-various-confused-noobs/
mircea_popescu: WolfGoethe "TALKING ABOUT BITCOIN, EVEN IF IN A GROUP, DOES NOT MAKE YOU PART OF BITCOIN."
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> if you compare how you treat your pets and how the average liberal intends to treat "those people" you get a scary identity. << oh come i only feed the pets when they behave
mircea_popescu: these five elements do not require a plural pronoun
mircea_popescu: WolfGoethe in so many words, yes. and stop using the plural, best anyone can determine you're a solitary guy with his hopes, aspirations, confused mainstream mental impactions and internet connection.
thickasthieves: "In the latest move, Blockchain, a Bitcoin wallet provider and software developer, is expected to announce on Tuesday that it has closed a roughly $30.5 million fund-raising round, led by Lightspeed Venture Partners and Wicklow Capital. The investment, raised from Blockchain’s first round of outside financing, is one of the biggest in the digital currency industry to date."
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> and who the fuck decided that a perfectly good 'eth0' should turn into 'enp0s29u1u1' ? << o yikes
WolfGoethe: I see this like a grass roots social justice movement
WolfGoethe: not ready to have a chat about the nature of consciousness right now
mircea_popescu: this is like saying, "i have a computer, it is my duty to generate random strings and publish them"
WolfGoethe: I code web mostly. many platforms. had a few startups. did the napster of Ringtones in 2000. and a few social networking sites. and now working on some bitcoin stuff. ☟︎
WolfGoethe: I'm a coder mircea and entrepreneur, nothin special
mircea_popescu: what do you do for a living ?
WolfGoethe: here is a decent presentation on this concept - http://blog.easybitz.com/2014/10/05/closing-the-circle/
WolfGoethe: once bitcoin "closes the circle" then it shall be a true competitor to the usd
mircea_popescu: hence the invitaiton to read a lot more.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> "as a community"? << yeah seriously. lettuce focus as electromagnetic radiation instead.
WolfGoethe: I have been discussing with many folks why the price is tanking. it seems quite natural considering that btc is more of an asset than a currency... merchants are covnerting right to fiat and thus putting sell pressure on the exchanges
asciilifeform: 'i'm a hunchback, everybody should be a hunchback'
decimation: this seems like a nonsolution to a non problem
BingoBoingo: WolfGoethe: Well doubling the blocksize every year for two decades is probably a problematic plan
WolfGoethe: we need to "close the circle" like the 13 colonies did. need a 20 year plan at least
decimation: "as a community"?
WolfGoethe: What is the most vital thing we must focus on now as a community ?
thestringpuller: that was enlightening tho. i now can view socialism from a different light. ty mircea_popescu
thestringpuller: They shed their libertard skin it seems and a new generation of derps picked it up.
mircea_popescu: it's really disgusting, being a liberal.
mircea_popescu: well, kinda worse than that. you don't give them a little change, you insist and repeat that they gotta get a little change.