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mircea_popescu: for one thing : it costs us 20k to deploy 1k of these. i doubt hitler wants to ruin his ntp for 20k
mircea_popescu: i;m not a great fan either ; nevertheless i suspect it is a marginally better solution than the current best which is "just taker block".
mircea_popescu: one thousand pogos ask.
mircea_popescu: jurov i mean, pogo asks for ntp time, malicious server sayus "ask a.b.c.d" pogo asks.
mircea_popescu: jurov i think there is at least one attack where lamer is made to think victim is ntp server
mircea_popescu: what, you think 1k is a barrier ? 1mn is a barriere. maybe. 1k is not a barrier.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1191193 << me lol. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that also doesn't keep time./
mircea_popescu: i was entertaining delusions of pogos being used as net propo for small home miners.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field that foolk is not so much of a fool
mircea_popescu: i don't feel too good about asking people who trust me to put a box on the net that's open to flooding people.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1191187 << use them in various attacks he means ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i thought from your prev line you weren't but anywa
mircea_popescu: you can't rewrite the blocks.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1191138 << you can't actually mislead anyone ☝︎
mircea_popescu: fertility THAT bad in slovakia ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you still don't like my, "-time=blabla" in start-up call ?
mircea_popescu: if only once were a thing.
mircea_popescu: he has a point, he ~can~ sync like that, but only provided he actually did the measurements as to which star himself.
mircea_popescu: can be a small one off amazon.
mircea_popescu: so are we putting a pulsar on the pogo usb or what.
mircea_popescu: nah, they left.
mircea_popescu: decimation it's "tied" in a conventional manner.
mircea_popescu: there's no "truthful" means to breach a convention by getting the REAL reality of it. just like you can't deduce a girl out of her panties.
mircea_popescu: well, a convention, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: because you need a clock.
mircea_popescu: yes, it is :)
mircea_popescu: i do not dispute they exist. what i said, again, was that if you use a nist table you're basically querying ntp.
mircea_popescu: for your locale ?
mircea_popescu: how do you get the calibration data ?
mircea_popescu: decimation what i said was that if you use usg-supplied cutouts for that reduction, you're just doing a roundabout ntp call. might as well ask directly
mircea_popescu: are you being parodic ?
mircea_popescu: decimation intranet ? notrly.
mircea_popescu: (also telco and radio provider etc)
mircea_popescu: off of their own atomic clock no less
mircea_popescu: last i looked into it my isp actually fed you time, on special port.
mircea_popescu: logical.
mircea_popescu: they run dns but not time ?
mircea_popescu: really ?
mircea_popescu: listen, can't the thing ask the local isp for time ?
mircea_popescu: in other news i am pleased to inform the general public that my pyromania is progressing nicely.
mircea_popescu: hardcode http://whattimeitis.com in the cpp
mircea_popescu: nono.
mircea_popescu: you know how satoshi would have solved this problem, rigth ?
mircea_popescu: to TRUST ntp
mircea_popescu: well sure.
mircea_popescu: like the housewives, you know, "oph, i don;t care about the crisis, my husband does all that money stuff" "orly ? shut up and sit down, goose."
mircea_popescu: once it comes to it, they care or they go away.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field they don't care now in the manner they don't care about how well oiled their rifle is.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: it reflects on us.
mircea_popescu: sure. but this does not reflect on timekeeping
mircea_popescu: jurov the way you use the cow's teat is not the alpha and omega of what the cow teat is.
mircea_popescu: hence rejected blocks from the future.
mircea_popescu: punkman it actually DOES order events to some degree based on time.
mircea_popescu: doesn't matter!
mircea_popescu: "oh, happens in bed" "really ? fuck you."
mircea_popescu: they're like sleeping and fucking
mircea_popescu: i dunno why people keep mushin them together
mircea_popescu: ordering has jack shit to do with timekeeping
mircea_popescu: it is not coincidental that "finance" reduced to hft.
mircea_popescu: you ain't got nottin.
mircea_popescu: unless you discover a more precise clock, and keep it from the enemy, such that you can exploit his misclicks and take his women
mircea_popescu: precision is the problem
mircea_popescu: jefferson.
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: and think "hey, my clock can keep time within two hours, how would those newfangled financial traders and hedge funds render me destitute on the cointinent my fathers conquered ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: think of time as capital, and think you're that anon president that opposed hamilton
mircea_popescu: you don't appreciate the depth of this problem
mircea_popescu: decimation the human idea of time, yes.
mircea_popescu: is what comes tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: the only new thing in the world is the history you didn't know, and the only thing that's worse than what we have today
mircea_popescu: shweeping.
mircea_popescu: you remember ? locusts ?
mircea_popescu: chinese miners.
mircea_popescu: wash dc is washing on you alfie.
mircea_popescu: and he's picked the dumbest link to do it to
mircea_popescu: basically he could be in government : he's decided to externalise the cost he can't bore
mircea_popescu: punkman he wants to infer the target from the hash.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: no, we're friends with hilbert, and i don't think it's a bad idea, either.
mircea_popescu: all sorts of possibilities are here, provided you don't go into geographical details
mircea_popescu: but you've not nailed something down. you just hope saint hilbert may.
mircea_popescu: also true.
mircea_popescu: you know the recourse to complexity is an academic habit.
mircea_popescu: anyway, took down (as folklore) by one alexandru donici in the 1800s
mircea_popescu: prolly yidish
mircea_popescu: i think it was eastern european folklore
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI08e8UbRBU << there you go, ~ROMANIAN~ oldies.
mircea_popescu: "racul, broasca si o stiuca"
mircea_popescu: you are aware of the complexity that introduces in say an attempt at mathematical provability re the entire shenanigan ?
mircea_popescu: but i think we eventually will.
mircea_popescu: i think it's prolly premature
mircea_popescu: oinly to discover that indeed such devils do exist. him.
mircea_popescu: you know, when the holy paladin marches into the forest to kill the unseen devils that have been upsetting the natural order of the land
mircea_popescu: depends how you define it, but there's also the problem of "you're the lizard, bob."
mircea_popescu: this is necessarily the case, if you think about it.
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: not sure that can be arranged. prolly can be made to appear it was arranged, but...