asciilifeform: decimation: afaik all of those remain under the sea. and, by and large, still work (if one were to plug them in)

asciilifeform: (prior to invention of optical fiber, long-haul telecom was 100% coax)

asciilifeform: moar copper, moar cost.

asciilifeform: and a bag of 'tees'

asciilifeform still has enormous spool of 'thin-net'

asciilifeform: and of course ethernet over coax somehow never happened

asciilifeform: to $maxint base station, aha

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on chinese 640x480 turdcams, we can all be fat koreans.

asciilifeform: but not entirely surprising

asciilifeform: decimation: interesting

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%A6%D0%A1%D0%A2-R1000 << mega-l0l. claimed to be employed in ru missile & crypto gear. sparc v9 clone. manufactured 'in small parties of a few tens of examples per month.'

asciilifeform: *contract

asciilifeform: (made on cotract in cn)

asciilifeform: http://www.idm-plus.ru/tf16a.html << ru forth micro.

asciilifeform: i expect to purchase a 'fluxbabbitt' before i ever so much as touch an 'elbrus.'

asciilifeform: dating back prior to fall of su

asciilifeform: i must note that the firm has a lengthy history of chumpatronic shenanigans

asciilifeform attempts to find the docs, turns up nothing but marketing crud

asciilifeform: (though i am not aware of masks, etc. having been published)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: supposedly out. and, iirc it's a pedantically documented sparc, rather than closed turd

asciilifeform: it is how they dump inventory

asciilifeform: because national turdphactory.

asciilifeform: they feature 'intel atom'

asciilifeform: (as in, < 100 usd)

asciilifeform: interestingly, there are 'disposable' laptops sold at u.s. crap stores

asciilifeform: gotta want 100,000 examples of it.

asciilifeform: (i will point out that rms, famously, was not able to obtain a replacement for his loongson - which was stolen by bag-snatchers in b-a)

asciilifeform: at any rate, i'm merely trying to divine whether they export these buggers after all, or - as i suspect - the examples turning up in ru were hand-carried to the street market

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not my notion. direct quote from some godforsaken ru forum

asciilifeform: i did dive into an electronics shop when walking with ben_vulpes, now that i think of it. saw nothing like loongson.

asciilifeform: because cheapolade

asciilifeform: this is precisely why i suspect it exists in b-a

asciilifeform: precisely the situation in ru. folks end up with mips lappy, and end up pissing on it because 'not only won't run counterstrike, but mozilla is slow'

asciilifeform: goatfuckers with chinese imports by the gigatonne. hence question.

asciilifeform: hey it's 3 or 4 notches above the retardation here in east gringolandia

asciilifeform had this item on checklist, did not get to it

asciilifeform: can mircea_popescu find a loongson in that electronics hotdog stand next to $hotel ?

asciilifeform: l0l wut

asciilifeform: just that they are hand-exported.

asciilifeform: quite too many for dry run

asciilifeform: plenty in ru, interestingly

asciilifeform: they are not concerned with export.

asciilifeform: the interesting part is that chinese mips (see above) are in production, but entirely unobtainable in the west.

asciilifeform: straight to 'elbrus' then

asciilifeform: as ru did with 'elbrus'

asciilifeform: except the only reason they'd steal x86 is to run winblows

asciilifeform: 'dragon' (used in, iirc, loongson)

asciilifeform: they did try

asciilifeform: (the amd variant has vastly insufficient scope - and uptake - and so.)

asciilifeform: but yes, it has been decided, the intel rootkittronic turd is to be in all x86 boxen.

asciilifeform: unless intel pulls a microshit-apple and keeps it on life support as token competitor

asciilifeform: but no argument, amd is not long for this world

asciilifeform buys

asciilifeform: (which will not keep them alive, no)

asciilifeform: plus the '08-prior sommelier market

asciilifeform: $maxint opterons

asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> this is server high end stuff... a battle amd has lost, incidentally. i don't even know if they have anything << afaik this is the -only- market they haven't entirely lost

asciilifeform: the 'cores' derpage poured fuel in this already-hot fire, by giving incentive for underperforming serially to keep thermal manageable

asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> btw, some funny shit : from what i hear from people who'd know, 2.x ghz processors actually solidly outperform 3.x ghz processors << less work per tick, aha.

asciilifeform: this needs to be burned out, with hot irons.

asciilifeform: the 2d slide deck is like a retarded kid, who others have learned to ignore, and somewhere he found a loudspeaker 'so they can't ignore any longer1111!!!11'

asciilifeform: imagine themselves 'os devs'

asciilifeform: the pretentious derps, just think of it. ☟︎

asciilifeform: this - needs to die, in a fire.

asciilifeform: to 'xen' etc.

asciilifeform: but what i see is the complexity buck being passed

asciilifeform: it'd have some appeal if the net result was something like 1) 100x fewer lines of code 2) written by wot man in good standing

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: one of 1,001 flavours of lipstick folks attempted to make the unix pig fuckable with.

asciilifeform: the whole 'microkernel' thing is a '80s u.s. academitardation that never seems to go to rest in its grave

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://rumpkernel.org << see for yourself.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: more broadly, the removal of complexity layers

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha

asciilifeform: and the idiotic scam helps to discourage the few folks who might yet do it. ☟︎

asciilifeform: the extra insult is in the fact that the thing that these derps pretend to do, in fact direly needs doing

asciilifeform: this is a prime example of mircea_popescu's 'death by meta'

asciilifeform: what a crock'o'shit

asciilifeform: which somehow 'doesn't count' aha

asciilifeform: and 'virtualized drivers' are just passing the real os buck to the virtualizer

asciilifeform: it doesn't 'remove os' but replaces linux with a bizarre academiturd

asciilifeform: scam

asciilifeform: !s rump kernel

asciilifeform: also we did 'rump kernel' here

asciilifeform: 2d slide decks.

asciilifeform: just when no one imagined slide could be more of a torment...

asciilifeform: ('concurrent prog. in erlang', armstrong 1996)

asciilifeform enjoyed the original erlang book, but did not enjoy attempting to write in it

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121663 << as far as i can tell, the db isn't fully synchronous... ☝︎

asciilifeform fired up valgrind-massif with --pages-as-heap=yes

asciilifeform raises periscope

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al ^^^

asciilifeform: [BTC-dev] Full Orphanage Thermonuke Valgrind Output.

asciilifeform: ^ achtung, panzers

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000089.html

asciilifeform: nm, just slow

asciilifeform: ate msg for no reason that i can discern

asciilifeform: jurov: please check turdatron

asciilifeform: 182842