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phf: hehe, i'd be surprised if somebody even attempted
to.
framedr: owait, 'isrg root' is mozilla's root lol. i
thought,
third party. it's a root
they created
mircea_popescu: for some reason it dun work on my systems and i dun feel like debugging it for
them
framedr: their root is one 'ISRG root',
trusted by firefox as of 2016 it seems, but it makes a whooooolotta sense
to
tend
to one's cert garden manually as mircea_popescu does. (then again, if it's all snakeoil anyway?..)
framedr: (granted, bootstrap website is not
the most amazing rigorous proof)
mircea_popescu: well meanwhile it fell off [my version of]
the internet.
mircea_popescu: i still
think
the item existed and was quoted in
the dude's slides as a phuctor decoy and nothing more.
this is not really something i can be
talked out of
through showing
that a website wireframe existed ~same eyar.
framedr: (server down for 'emergency maintenace'. yes will move
to dedicated, no
this is not acceptable, OP sucks dicks)
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> eightyeight what are
the differences, for my curiosity ?"
mircea_popescu: <eightyeight> he clearly doesn't understand
the differences between shannon entropy and entropy as defined by
the 2nd law of
thermodynamics
mircea_popescu: well,
the guy is evidently not in
the mood
to indulge, but let's
try
this. "<eightyeight> his "Is
there such a
thing as better or worse entropy ?" paragraph is equally as painful
to read
mircea_popescu: it wasn't much foir
the first coupla
though. as
these
things usually go.
Framedragger: ah k, need
to keep in mind. almost four years going, good stuff!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger because webarchive is worth
trusting about as far as you can
throw alexa, an amazon company, in
the business of making up shit about
the web since
the 90s.
mircea_popescu: "The service will also report whether we have seen
the same key in use in other certificates or served from other IP addresses, which can help identify default or repeated keys."
Framedragger: why
the fuck did it
tell me it had a 2012 snapshot if it's defo not available
tho, lol
mircea_popescu: i would like
to see something. put you in my shoes and see what you'd like
to see ?
Framedragger: hm. definitely not live, because it's not, you know, static. you wish
to see
the frontend?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger can i see
the 2012 version of
the verification service ?
mircea_popescu: 5.57%.
this implies a sample of no less
than 1795332 items (of which 100000 came out
this way) because iirc 557 is a prime number.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
this looks like an empty placeholder. i see nothing in
there. can i verify any claim in any way ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
tjhere is some skullduggery at work here, as
that link redirects me
to a 2013 item ( web.archive.org/web/20121023082642/factorable.net
mircea_popescu: phf can you with not so much effort point out
to me what netbsd anything he did ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i'll
take your word for it. if i DIDN'T
though, what steps could you
take
to enact
this
truth ?
Framedragger: okay, look,
their paper was published in 2012. people referred
to it as "that 2012 paper". now it's possible all
them people are sybils, but i'll go ahead and say
that factorable came before phuctor.
mircea_popescu: and otherwise,
the website doesn't load, not for me not for archive.is
phf: most of
the lisp developers here know riastradh by his paredit, but he's otherwise a competent scheme developer
Framedragger: also it's still around, but uses a cert
that you (probably for good reason) hate
mircea_popescu: i have domains i registered pre 2000 i never bothered
to use. i'd say link me, but...
mod6: up and
testing on FG #3.
mircea_popescu: this, of course, has ~nothing
to do with its failure at
that intended
task, a much younger Framedragger would assure us.)
mircea_popescu: (for
they following at home : factorable.net, an item existing entirely
to
try and pretend like phuctor didn't happen -- no longer exists on
the web.
mircea_popescu: factorable.net, of course. phuctor never heard of, of course.
totally innocent bystander.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one can't well shake
the suspicion
the reason intel isn't keen
to share raw stream is
the fear
that you'd poke it at
the wrong
time.
mircea_popescu: in other weird news, i've apparently gotten hella-good at handling wanna-be leahs, on
the basis of nothing in particular. meditation, i guess, not like i've even interacted with
the unfiltered refuse of angloshpere since
the cat-v adventure.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> even build -- himself. << one of
the
things im gonna be doing here, maybe with some handholding, is flashing xilinx chip with your fg.v
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: badump-tss! something like 'flocking', in
that particular case.
though, yeah, maybe exactly opposite (leahs flock
to places)
Framedragger: that is depressingly sad isn't it. fair enough, good
to know...
mircea_popescu: this "we don't have a log" hurr is becoming
the #1 dunning-kruger symptom.
they dun have one and dun know why
they'd miss it, just like i wouldn't havce known in 2012.
mircea_popescu: they just dun has it. will write reviews for pizza hut where
they go.
mircea_popescu: the sad fact of
the matter is
that
there isn't some sort of large pocket of life out
there
that's being somehow missed on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this very neatly mirrors
the failure of same general population
to make bitcoin via eulora.
phf: i suspect
that no vocal nonwot bought FUCKGOATS. it's either inwot, or else lurkers,
that otherwise don't have any kind of presence. won't start participating with a review (even
though
that's probably a reason way
to put self on radar)
mod6: ah
true enough; be nice
to have some outside anal
Framedragger: i mean,
testing and comparing results of
these rngs is probably useful (i'm outta
time as of now), hm
mod6: could shortcircut
that part in
the random device?
mod6: yah,
there's
that
too.
mod6: would be good
to get
these
tests from at least 3 different people.
mod6: doesn't probably do us all justice if I run some of
these
test collections on some shitty hardware i may or may not have.
mod6: indeed, could
take weeks if not months
mod6: and do
that like on a bunch of different environments; gentoo, ubuntu 12/14/16, freebsd recent, openbsd (old?) and recent, deb 7 & 8, osx whatever versions
mod6: the only other
thing I could do, would be
to just collect /dev/random until >~1Gb
then run
the same
tests.
mod6: like Mr. P. can run same
tests, see what it looks like compared
to mod6's.
mircea_popescu: can anyone actually buy
this
thing ? if i click on "buy for 40 bucks" nothing happens
mod6: asciilifeform: indeed. which is partly why maybe my posting
these is useful for other folks. we can compare and contrast our fg's at least.
trinque: happy with
their lives in
the goop
tube
mod6: once all 5 are done, i'll pull
together something more comprehensive for comparison; currently, i just have
the raw output
test data.
mod6: yeah, very steady on
that part Framedragger
trinque: not so much
the copying as 1) copy what? and 2) why are
the copies so lossy
mod6: Will be moving on
to
third FG next.
phf: i
think
the name is very much reminiscent of phrack oldschoolery, presumably before "Captain_Beezay" was old enough
to computers
a111: Logged on 2014-10-28 12:51 asciilifeform: 2)
http://moonbaseotago.com/onerng/schematic.png << vendor schematic. see bottom-right-hand, 'AP3105' switching voltage-booster. it's
there because 3v is not enough
to run an avalanche diode. guess how
the booster works?