asciilifeform: !s onerng

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190967 << see logs. ☝︎

asciilifeform: say, you get n blocks at a given target, and then the bit slides.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190921 << precisely. what i was suggesting is to monotonically move the target 'harder'. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190911 << perhaps i should explain. dude was an odious, moralizing twerp, who played the 'holier than thou' game for ages. ru law requires ministers to declare income. he declared perhaps 1% of it. nailed fair and square. and if there is some way for him to have made that dough other than straight bribery, monkeys will fly from my arse. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190906 << if i can't see how it made it, and repeat the process, it is useless to me ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190896 << by far the most interesting thing here is that every cpp programmer needs this. and it is available from dozens of vendors, as winblowz turdware of course. because ~nobody else uses cpp~ for anything ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'gets its time from the most recent block it accepts' is a logical impossibility given the current algo for 'accept'

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190838 << pogo has to work when plugged into the wall! what 'switch' ?!! and you cannot learn ~anything~ about the current time from a purported block. this is circular logic!1111 block is only valid ~if~ within 2h of current time. any backflow can and will result in enemies 'nudging' the time ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190832 << yes. node - synced (as discussed yesterday.) wanted copy for study. ☝︎

asciilifeform also to bed

asciilifeform: rather than just 'what fits'

asciilifeform: other thing is, ideally the graph would be in some logical arrangement ☟︎

asciilifeform: possibly ben_vulpes or trinque might give it a shot

asciilifeform: yeah linked it earlier, iirc

asciilifeform: (e.g. what 'O(N)' or 'O(N^2)' means)

asciilifeform: well these every civilized person knows

asciilifeform: more modern incarnations - hell knows

asciilifeform: mats: traditional diff, afaik, did not

asciilifeform: lamport (same as of the 'generals') clock.

asciilifeform: the 'byzantine generals' paper.

asciilifeform: anyone else have examples of 'maths an exploiter must know' ?

asciilifeform: and then of course there is basic crypto, but i am deliberately not mentioning it

asciilifeform confesses that he did not know this proof, and, as a student, wasted a great deal of time trying to devise such a thing ☟︎

asciilifeform: other pertinent maths include the proof of why 'homomorphic obfuscator' is impossible in the general case

asciilifeform: this was not taught to them

asciilifeform: e.g., my current colleagues were very surprised when i told them about needleman-wunsch and how one can make a non-retarded binary 'diff'

asciilifeform: basic discretes is more important

asciilifeform: enough to understand, e.g., 'phuctor'

asciilifeform: doesn't hurt to know some maths

asciilifeform: then have to be very particular

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: and that the only opponent is 'raghead' in goatfuckistan

asciilifeform: some smirking 'plum book' stuffed shirt who thinks that his ph.d. makes him a god

asciilifeform: and, in the ultimate case, the kind created by somebody who was sure that it would never be looked for. ☟︎

asciilifeform: the kind you find by looking where literally nobody else has thought to look, perhaps even using tooling that literally no one else has.

asciilifeform: there is also the 'sui generis'

asciilifeform: mats: the fungible coolie 0day isn't the only kind there is, you know

asciilifeform: decimation: you don't. the notion was that 'too many to hang'

asciilifeform: decimation: for a successful example of this, see 'kademlia'

asciilifeform: or to be present anywhere at all in that supply chain.

asciilifeform: i have no wish to be a coolie.

asciilifeform: the kind typically done by armies of coolies, 'fuzzing'

asciilifeform: mats: even the exploiting, i find, is deadly boring

asciilifeform: not 'live with' it.

asciilifeform: until nothing remains.

asciilifeform: the thing to do with shit is to burn it.

asciilifeform: because they are expressions of surrender, of 'willing to live with' a pit of liquid shit

asciilifeform: e.g., 'aslr'

asciilifeform: mats: as a rule, i am entirely uninterested in 'mitigations' ☟︎

asciilifeform: (despite pretenses to the contrary)

asciilifeform: just like tor dies if the directory servers are ever unplugged.

asciilifeform: because ultimately there are servers and 'magic' ips.

asciilifeform: openssl or not

asciilifeform: astonishingly useless no matter how implemented

asciilifeform: snore.

asciilifeform: decimation: looks like a cheap clone of tor-onion

asciilifeform: mats: what is interesting about it ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: decimation: thing is, we don't have a network where you connect by key instead of by ip

asciilifeform: mats: nope

asciilifeform: enemy captures magic private key, game over

asciilifeform: of any kind

asciilifeform: as in having keys in the box at all when it ships

asciilifeform: it is gavinism.

asciilifeform: hardcoded keys suck

asciilifeform: it is worthless

asciilifeform: we have this now

asciilifeform: and you're back to square one

asciilifeform: which gets nuked

asciilifeform: which is good enough

asciilifeform: but he can diddle packets in flight

asciilifeform: !up Vexual

asciilifeform: pogo needs to plug into the wall and immediately fight

asciilifeform: very much useless for our current problem, i must again point out

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: thread was about how bitcoin as it exists is very much designed around 'political time' being a knowable and generally agreed-on thing

asciilifeform: well yes

asciilifeform: hence, i think, the confusion

asciilifeform: so was brendafdez ?

asciilifeform: ;;seen brendafdez

asciilifeform: mats: i thought that was brendafdez

asciilifeform: !b 3 ✂︎

asciilifeform: save-lisp-and-die

asciilifeform: probably pushed wrong pedal

asciilifeform: !!

asciilifeform: !!

asciilifeform: decimation: !!

asciilifeform: ^ ??

asciilifeform: decimation: one of them was 'radio room'

asciilifeform: !up Vexual

asciilifeform: linked mainly on account of this http://russos.ru/img/trip/2009-kolskiy/b440-22.jpg mechanical computer.

asciilifeform: as in ww2.

asciilifeform: interesting because traditional (diesel) motor.

asciilifeform: 1970-1998

asciilifeform: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/3330352/post179877748 << historical. sov. sub. close-ups of internals.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: unless i seriously misunderstand, 50%+ of the hash rate belongs to folks ~who aren't even running bitcoin~ but a toystore version ☟︎

asciilifeform: though one would probably prefer something with shorter halflife

asciilifeform: (from, say, a smoke detector)

asciilifeform: incidentally, today i invented (hypothetical) very cheap 'clock': an sram with a beta source glued on top

asciilifeform: the thing barely survives today, much less ww3 ☟︎

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: or the survivors simply sign, on parchment, with their privkeys, ..., etc