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spyked: anyway, I guess
the q is in fact whether
there's any use
to
this entire lisp-webstuff exercise. if not, I can go back
to wp and work on other stuff,
there's no shortage of
that.
spyked: e.g. I never seriously considered adding comments before
tmsr, because who else would comment? and similarly for
trackbacks
spyked: magemagick (what I believe mp-wp uses currently?) or gimp batch processer; regardless of what is
to be used,
the
tools *are already
there*, it's
the user's problem how or what he uses. I for one don't wanna use web interface for photo processing, nor did I ever intend
to add
this
to
thetarpit, nor would I stop anyone from adding
them if
they wish
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 20:07:40 mircea_popescu: what people don't realise is just HOW unlinear
the returns are.
spyked:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933956 <-- I can defo see
the productivity advantage of integrated img resizer, but when /me wrote
this, he
took
the
opposite philosophical standpoint:
text can be written using whatever
text editor
the user wishes; and uploaded
to blog however he wishes. similarly, images can be processed using i
spyked: hat's
the usefulness in
the end if I'm not gonna do anything productive with it?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:08:22 mircea_popescu: 2. re lisp, i do believe finishing
the hutch story is very useful.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:09:18 mircea_popescu: but imo it's folly
to
try and marry 1
to 2 because of what's, ultimately, merely a name coincidence.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 19:31:54 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, all but for comments which, once done, will expose all but for
trackbacks and all but for antisspam
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:04:58 mircea_popescu: spyked, "the painstaking labour involved in moving every post
to MP-WP (plus fixing
the links) would
take a yet-to-be-determined amount of
time" << why is
this
to be a pain ?
spyked:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933930 <-- eh, when I first wrote
the blog, I chose "markdown" as markup, so now would have
to write some extra code
to
take
the generated html content and add it
to mp-wp db; problem is,
there's
the manual step of verifying
that
the resulting content looks okay, and e.g.
the photoblog posts use
thetarpit-specific css.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 13:20:53 asciilifeform: spyked: 'I still haven't genesized
The
Tar Pit; by
the way, is
there anyone else out
there interested in using it?' << me. i'ma be moving my www and quite interested in all approaches
to de-php-izing . and you have imho a++ visual coat on yours.
spyked:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933694 <-- ftr, I'm pretty sure
that
the same coat can be applied
to mp-wp without much effort. so if e.g. billymg is interested, I can provide him with everything he needs;
tho
the blog is online already, not especially difficult
to see how
the webpage is structured.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 13:25:57 mircea_popescu: spyked, wow look at
that. okay, so btcalpha, anco.is, esthlos.com can all come off.
lobbes: But, in order
to do
this I need
to fully understand
the "guts" of
the logotron anyway, and eating
the current
todo list I
think will help
to achieve
this. Plus
the code is already fresh in my mind!
lobbes: I
think, in general, it makes sense for me
to chew
through
the logotron "todo" list right now. I would eventually like
to
get a php version of the reader.py written for purposes of comparison.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:12:54 asciilifeform:
ty diana_coman . if lobbes also occupied, i'ma do it
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 11:29:06 asciilifeform: lobbes: you can also sync
the way diana_coman did , using
the
raw dump knob and eater .
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot
trinque
trinque: there may be a brief deedbot outage as I beat
the old version with a wrench and deploy new
trinque: hey lookie
there, drunkbot still connected.
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY
the same
thing. "what's an extra point ?" "dude are you kidding me, it's
the difference between leningrad and urals"
mircea_popescu: AND
THEN!!!
the marginal increase is exactly like in exam lists. anyone saw ever one of
those, 100 people per place sovok
things ? 10.0 9.99 9.99 9.99 9.98
mircea_popescu: this is exactly false : what actually happens is
that if
the labour's over
threshold
the output is 0, and if it's under
the output is x. like a
transistor exactly
mircea_popescu: the naive view is
to
think
that making
the cost 10% less will result in... what, 10% more output ? if it
takes me 9 seconds of unpleasant laboru instead of 10, i'll just do 11 images instead of 10.
BingoBoingo: I kinda worry about
the process fascism which has asciilifeform's 2018 Uruguay journey still largely un photoblogged
mircea_popescu: what people don't realise is just HOW unlinear
the returns are.
mircea_popescu: trilema has rhe advantage of size, dun particularly want
to put anything else on box, so dun so muich care
mircea_popescu: and
then all but for image autoresizing and
then all but for x y z
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, all but for comments which, once done, will expose all but for
trackbacks and all but for antisspam
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 17:33:34 diana_coman: ah, you are right;
that sort of
thing is still on
to-do list, yes.
mircea_popescu: but imo it's folly
to
try and marry 1
to 2 because of what's, ultimately, merely a name coincidence.
mircea_popescu: 2. re lisp, i do believe finishing
the hutch story is very useful.
mircea_popescu: 1. re blog, i do not currently believe it makes any sense
to have blogs in anything but php ; 1.a with
the exception
that
trying out
things (as opposed
to, production) is
trying out
things, and people can
try out whatever ~they feel like~ (while
they're stuck producing what works).
mircea_popescu: in any case, it is outright impossible
to answer your "wat do" question as stated ; because it's in fact multiple questions.
mircea_popescu: consider
the other side : you add comments ; but
then
trackbacks ?
mircea_popescu: spyked, "the painstaking labour involved in moving every post
to MP-WP (plus fixing
the links) would
take a yet-to-be-determined amount of
time" << why is
this
to be a pain ?
diana_coman: ah, you are right;
that sort of
thing is still on
to-do list, yes.
diana_coman: bvt: you need
to search for "man" so it doesn't return "many" if you want exact match
bvt: asciilifeform's searcher matches 'many' when looking for 'man', produces
too many results
to filter
through all of
them (thought
the line was
there
too)
bvt: i kind of remembered
that it had something with
to do with percentages,
this surfaced out mod6's message; when you mentioned
that
the result is still ~wrong, remembered
that it had something
to do with "man who invests X% of
time into empire...", used phf's log for a keyword search.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of bvt from 1
to 2 << knows where
things are in
the logs! + useful work
towards a republican kernel; writes at
http://bvt-trace.net diana_coman: I see also more clearly my usual
trouble finding sources:
the original exact bit is deep in
the roots while
the part easily found is
the
tip of
the
tree grown from
those roots, huh.
diana_coman: bvt: yes!
that one indeed; and look at
that, it *was* in one of asciilifeform's
threads indeed.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-03-04 16:14:16 mircea_popescu: empire does not in any factual sense exist. man who works 70% of
the
time for idiots is ===
the remaining 30% of
that man.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-04 21:14 mircea_popescu: empire does not in any factual sense exist. man who works 70% of
the
time for idiots is ===
the remaining 30% of
that man.
diana_coman: but hm, I still
think mod6's line actually paraphrased a different discussion and I quite distinctly remember it said by mircea_popescu ; if my memory of it is any good, ofc.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-11-10 19:40:02 mircea_popescu: so
to summarize : 1. one hour (!?) wrangling with auctionbot on
the 4th (the result still wrong) ; 2. 2 hours handling
three conflated processes (why do you keep notes as an intermediate step ?) on
the 5th ; 3. 1 hour reading logs on
the 6th ; 4. half hour reading logs on
the 7th ; 5. 1.3 h mostly brainstorming on
the 8th ? ; 6. half hour doing... i don't know what on
the 9th ; 7. 4 (four ?!) hours doing i stil
snsabot: Logged on 2019-03-19 18:52:57 mod6: Because like we discussed before, some paraphrasing "man puts in 20% of
time is 20% of a man".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 12:25:58 asciilifeform: (
to
take
trivial example : at one
time i designed a 'fg 2'
that uses scintillator crystal . background radiation is moar
than enuff
to make
this go. however also need a reverse-biased large surface diode for detecting pulses.
these need a clean (i.e. not from oscillating converter) ~60 volt.
then
thought : 'this is simple, all would need is 20 x 3v photocells in series, in epoxy. surely someone sells
this !! gu
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 12:24:47 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: you know,
this
trouble with "what I want doesn't exist" I
tend
to have for
the simplest of items
to wear, not even going for leather straps at all, lol.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: possibly I'll find it later as inner-indexing
tends
to keep working in
the background after one of
those anyway and pops up with
the result some days from now or such shit.
diana_coman: I also
think it might have been in reply
to one of asciilifeform's
threads re how he can't escape (hence possibly why it rings a bell with him?) but again, if I knew exactly, I'd have found it by now.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I
thought "less of a man" was in
there but I can't say I'm 100% sure
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, part of
the problem is
that i
think we index
things very differently ; your words don't
trigger my memory. do you remember any actual words
that were definitely in
there ?
diana_coman: myeah, I had been searching for a while before asking; I'll have
to do with my own asking for
the
thing I can't yet find, won't I.
diana_coman: I know for sure you did, just need
to... find it.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you remember by any chance *where* did you say explicitly
that one's less by precisely
their investment/time outside
the republic?
mircea_popescu: that;s
the infuriating part, "man,
this shit's so obvious!"
diana_coman: and I wouldn't count it as "nobody did
this before" either, I
think I still have some patterns in grandmother's attic ffw
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: you know,
this
trouble with "what I want doesn't exist" I
tend
to have for
the simplest of items
to wear, not even going for leather straps at all, lol.
mircea_popescu: "dude wtf, if you're gonna do
this, why
the fuck do it so derpily!"