MolokoDesk: that's early code. also I was thinking assbot voice.

MolokoDesk: the blockchain tracker I'm using only flags confirmation when the block is on the main chain.

MolokoDesk: I noticed that inclusion in an orphan block would mess this up... there are often several blocks with the same blockID, at least using some tools.

MolokoDesk: invite works too, but I may shut that off to prevent botjacking.

MolokoDesk: there are some temporary commands to make it join the channel, but I'll set #bitcoin-assets as the primary channel and that will never be needed.

MolokoDesk: it has funds, ragnar put in the latest tranche, I put in the first tranche. a few bucks.

MolokoDesk: nevermind, I'll do my homework on wonderwafer.

MolokoDesk: ok. it's stopped raining here and I have some chores to run out there.

MolokoDesk: nah, I'm going to fix that.

MolokoDesk: I wouldn't run a trading exchange without an incoming queue.

MolokoDesk: thanks, shows how I skim text in IRC.

MolokoDesk: I think if it's in the process of waiting for gribble and you dump another incoming deed bundle, the unbundler is asynchronous and can stomp on the chain of gribble dialogs and force a new one to start.

MolokoDesk: I think the sha1 test case I was using wasn't in WoT at the time is why I've never noticed one before.

MolokoDesk: I probably need to add the queue we were discussing, ragnar.

MolokoDesk: I wonder if you created a collision with two deeds that close together.

MolokoDesk: the cuckoo clock announcement at the top of the hour... I'll turn that off now. and reload the bot. if nobody's waiting for a bundle to track to the blockchain.

MolokoDesk: I think it has implicit type conversion inconsistencies too.

MolokoDesk: I use php a lot though, as a sketchpad language for rapid prototyping. it lets one do a lot without thinking about the details.

MolokoDesk: http://eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ you may find this amusing. I hope this is the one I'm thinking of. it gets increasingly gnarly in describing these computer-science diasters intrinsic to php.

MolokoDesk: another uh delusion, I guess, is that SQL is supposed to make it easier to program. Every few years there's some software putsch that claims "you'll never have to program again, our language is so user-friendly and intuitive" I think SQL was originally promoted that way. It was going to be some 4th generation language.

MolokoDesk: I use regular expressions frequently.

MolokoDesk: yeah, I'm kind of a math head, SQL looks sort of like COBOL or something. it works.

MolokoDesk: it's probably a turing-complete language, though I've never used it that way.

MolokoDesk: I've been doing it for a long time off and on. since like uh... 1980s

MolokoDesk: anyway, I don't wanna spam a bunch of newb sqlite3 agony here. Thanks for the suggestion regarding a new tool.

MolokoDesk: now I have the SQL command file to create the database.

MolokoDesk: laff. nevermind. I was in the wrong directory, so it was, in fact, creating the database file.

MolokoDesk: I'm sure this totally works if you're used to using it.

MolokoDesk: no. it's 2.8.17 I don't admin this box so I can't change that.

MolokoDesk: oh. that's because sqlite destroyed the file when I opened it with sqlite.

MolokoDesk: i may use SQLite instead of mySQL eventuall.

MolokoDesk: especially something I already have two solutions to.

MolokoDesk: I think you see the problem

MolokoDesk: i shouldhave known that from celestial navigation. each hour is 15 degrees of arc.

MolokoDesk: i wonder how often those are update.

MolokoDesk: if there's confidence that the bitcoin-otc website /WoT site is not insecure I can just use my old code to get trust metrics over the web. It's the same database.

MolokoDesk: not that I want to do that.

MolokoDesk: so right now I'm looking up the trust metric for each batch of incoming contracts. it's not that much overhead.

MolokoDesk: ok. one scenario I was talking about a few minutes ago was someone vandalizes the bot and has their rating lowered below access threshold, but they're still trusted by deedBot and deedBot keeps getting vandalized.

MolokoDesk: apparently that's not "trusted" here. not sure why. I know gribble is the software agent that maintains the bitcoin-otc WoT data structure.

MolokoDesk: I was initially scraping bitcoin-otc's web of trust search tools to get the trust metrics.

MolokoDesk: heh. I was reading about Alain Badiou last few days. He counterposes ontologies with "events" that break the ontology. His stuff is peculiar. Philosophers seem to be looking for/looking at things like unfalsifiable hypotheses, and areas where logic breaks down, the nature of paradoxes and at various limiting cases of systematized thought.

MolokoDesk: Cyc was/is supposed to be somewhat like that. I think it doesn't handle what linguists call scripts or scenarios, but Lenat and OpenCYC are aware of the issues.